as long as the squirrels all die I am good with it : )One thing is good though, I know damn well that that is 50 yards minute of squirrel all day.
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as long as the squirrels all die I am good with it : )One thing is good though, I know damn well that that is 50 yards minute of squirrel all day.
Well, for your two 50Y groups what's the measurement on the 5 shot group vs the 30 shot group? Looks somewhat the same to me? A 5 shot group like that tells me the gun is good. A 30 shot group like that tells me the gun AND the pellets are goodSo I am now of the opinion that 3, 5 and 10 shot groups don’t tell me jack sh1t.
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One thing is good though, I know damn well that that is 50 yards minute of squirrel all day.
Have a closer look.Well, for your two 50Y groups what's the measurement on the 5 shot group vs the 30 shot group? Looks somewhat the same to me? A 5 shot group like that tells me the gun is good. A 30 shot group like that tells me the gun AND the pellets are goodI get fliers usually and probably couldn't replicate that....not with any of my 4 Airguns!



I do have an aversion to mentioning pb here because we are not suppose to, and there is so many different actual things happening between them that it really is two different topics. I really don't miss the noise and the recoil either, but I do miss the smell, especially shooting .22 rf. Even the cleaning afterwards was nice and relaxing and the smell of bore cleaner was really good. I mentioned too much already. I love shooting airguns though, and I like working on the cheapies because they need it. I only want to get them to where I can't tell which gun shot an outstanding group on the target, because they don't surpass the good stuff in function but can equal in performance sometimes, and that's enough.Says the guy who enjoys modifying “value”Airguns, probably get your rocks off when it out performs higher end ones.
So yeah, I firmly believe you enjoy taking a minivan to the racetrack.
Though I have noticed that you have an aversion towards anything pb and Airguns in the same sentence almost.
Nothing really wrong with either one of those things just pointing out biases and everyone has them.
If the data they are discussing in the video holds true, then the 3,5 and even a 10 shot group!, that concept as a complete measurement of accuracy will be severely diminished.
Your earnest response is not lost upon me. Thank you for cracking the door open just a bit. Happy New Year.I do have an aversion to mentioning pb here because we are not suppose to, and there is so many different actual things happening between them that it really is two different topics. I really don't miss the noise and the recoil either, but I do miss the smell, especially shooting .22 rf. Even the cleaning afterwards was nice and relaxing and the smell of bore cleaner was really good. I mentioned too much already. I love shooting airguns though, and I like working on the cheapies because they need it. I only want to get them to where I can't tell which gun shot an outstanding group on the target, because they don't surpass the good stuff in function but can equal in performance sometimes, and that's enough.
I have yet to watch the video myself, but I 100% agree with you. My TX especially will fling the first couple real tight. Then a "flier" or 2. I almost always shoot larger groups (10+) with my springers and often they will print one big ol group covering that flier or they'll print 2 or 3 micro groups inside the "one" group. It's definitely lost on plinking or pesting as Luis mentions...Sometimes a gun is diassapointing on paper but then I'll plink/pest at various distances and it smacks everything?! If I sorted/weighed I imagine it would only improve but that just doesn't interest me at this point. Cheers guys for the new year!Have a closer look.
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The “flyer” was one of the things they talked about in the video.
I would say that it’s controversial because basically with what they are questioning about the flyer, is that “flyer” real and not just inherent to your set up: gun, ammo and so on. With enough shots like say 30 would the flyer be within your group?
I want to perform this test on the S510 using the JSB 18.13 and M-lights at 50y. Care to join? New thread?I have yet to watch the video myself, but I 100% agree with you. My TX especially will fling the first couple real tight. Then a "flier" or 2. I almost always shoot larger groups (10+) with my springers and often they will print one big ol group covering that flier or they'll print 2 or 3 micro groups inside the "one" group. It's definitely lost on plinking or pesting as Luis mentions...Sometimes a gun is diassapointing on paper but then I'll plink/pest at various distances and it smacks everything?! If I sorted/weighed I imagine it would only improve but that just doesn't interest me at this point. Cheers guys for the new year!![]()
Shoot more shots per group for better info on the ammo.I can set in front of a computer long enough to get through that : (
anyone care to post the jest of it?
Surely you jest?!How about 168 shot groups![]()
might only repeat it with premium pellets once.Surely you jest?!![]()
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