Compressor cost

[Doug Dunlap]

sure love my TX 200 simple shoots well quality but at 75 its getting heavy not to say any thing about cocking it. some thing to think about as you age or have medical issues. not if but when. love them all. springer co2 PCP.

 

[Farmplinker2]

A little math. 60 pumps on a $100 (or less) handpump get a 3622 back up to 2000psi, at least 25 shots ( each equal to a max power shot out of a 362). 60 pumps on a 362 is 7 1/2 full power shots. I normally only use 6 pumps on a 362, so 10 shots.
So no difference really for plinking, but a PCP is easier for hunting and silhouette work.

 

[pan60]

Lol... Even my first car had a motor and steering wheel to jump in and drive it ... Not buy a car and then need to go buy a motor and steering wheel to use it .. thing is you got a gun without that costly support it's pretty useless..

even a .22 long rifle or other you need to buy amo?
a pellet is just part of it look at the air as it is the pwoer pushen stuff.
i can see you argument but i undersand not wanting to buy something like a compressor.

 

[Pat1]

They got the gxcs2 that says 4500/32 bar ( then says 30 bar???) for like $250 . And I guess there's the gx 10% off too boot .. not so bad I guess vs $1500 types ..lol

Thing is no easy parts to get from or for them to keep your investment up.. like you said . It goes bad just buy another . Each time could of bought a non pcp gun that shoots without needing support to shoot a pellet all day long for maybe years .. maybe a 20$ spring or seal time to time.. maybe..

Pcp . Nothing but a gimmick

I have the GX cs2 and get parts quickly from Target Forge, an authorized rep who also has MANY YouTube videos on how to repair them. Bill Ruell is a pro and helpful! I’ve done a few repairs on mine. No issues.

 

[bchannell]

Woooowa, horsey! Who said parts are not available fot GX compressors? Target Forge and GX both sell parts and I've ordered from both so I can have parts on hand. BUT, after using three and s maintaining three for over a year of hard use, I've not replaced a single part other than filters. I do disassemble and relube every six months.
As far as I'm concerned they're fantastic as long as you only fill guns.

 

[Sr.airgunner]

I'm no pcp guy at all and mostly due the the support cost like a compressor .

Still I like to look and follow any thing to be kinda caught up.

So lately I seem to notice the box type compressor have just about become sub $200 items witch I guess the s a good thing making a budget pcp gun and a means to fill it easy more affordable .

I assume gx to do a decent brand and this one. Is $209.

GX PUMP CS1-I PCP Air Compressor, 12V 220V 4500psi 300bar 30mpa PCP Co

I see lesser (??) brands like vevors hovering at $160+/- mark .

Almost makes a hand pump over 50$ look bad.

After my first pcp and filled with a hand pump $150. from PA ten years ago the energy/effort to pump back up made each shot more valuable to me. I watched a utube of a 50 year old guy pumping up a paintball tank with a handpump. It nearly killed him and was hard to watch. I have purchased 3 chinese air compressors all under $200. and they last a long time if you do not overheat them. Lots and lots of shots for not much money. I have a half bushel of pellet tins to prove it. Get a pcp and you will be amazed at what a great shooter you are. Scopes hold Zero and no recoil or special artillary holds needed either. Find out what you are missing but there is no going back.

 

[Hateful McNasty]

After my first pcp and filled with a hand pump $150. from PA ten years ago the energy/effort to pump back up made each shot more valuable to me. I watched a utube of a 50 year old guy pumping up a paintball tank with a handpump. It nearly killed him and was hard to watch. I have purchased 3 chinese air compressors all under $200. and they last a long time if you do not overheat them. Lots and lots of shots for not much money. I have a half bushel of pellet tins to prove it. Get a pcp and you will be amazed at what a great shooter you are. Scopes hold Zero and no recoil or special artillary holds needed either. Find out what you are missing but there is no going back.

I'm already a great shot without a pcp ..lol. I'm not that foolish to fall for that ..lol

 

[bchannell]

When the technology has progressed to the point that a compressor costs about the same as a half decent scope, and considerably less than a very good scope, it's a no brainer to me. I'm not an optics snob, but the cheapest scope that I actually use is probably an Airmax 4-12X and it cost more than any of my compressors.

I have to admit I was very skeptical of GX compressors, or any of the, shall we say, "$200 compressors", and that is part of the reason I bought more than one. I hand pumped a while, and it was a chore, I don't care what anyone says. I was thinking the only good pcp was a 10m rifle that got several hundred shots per fill. When I dove in to compressors, I figured, if it didn't work well at least I could rebuild them and keep them going long enough to, at least, get my money's worth. If you consider fills at a scuba place, which I'm told now range around $15, that's a dozen or so fills, and each fill could give you, lets' say 20 decent fills, heck I use that in a weekend sometimes, and if I'm working on a gun, even more than that. So, suffice to say, in convenience, in physical exertion, and in just not having to worry about an uninterupted air supply, it's probably the best $200 spent.
I've read all kinds of stories about breakdowns and longevity issues, but I can't confirm any of that. I have to guess that, like all things, there are some lemons, but I would also guess that a lot of people get the compressor and don't do any maintenance to it and don't follow good procedures like not starting under pressure and things of that nature, and this is the overwhelming cause of failures. I'm mentioned in other threads that, my neighbor has abused his CS3 astonishingly and it still keeps on going, but we all know, he's running on borrowed time right now and I look for it to fail at some point. Simple things like only running for 10 minutes or less and only filling guns and managing heat and moisture will go a long, long way to preserving a compressor's life.

I would also say, that the manufacturer's saying to let the compressor go for a year or so without any inspection and re-greasing is a bad idea. For one thing, you don't really know how it's used. I mean, if everyone followed the procedure of never running it over 10-15 minutes at a time, only filled a gun or two a week and only to mild pressures of say 230 bar, then yeah, there'd be no need to do much maintenance in a year. But, IF, you have several pcp airguns, and you shoot most every day and you use a LOT of air, and you pump to much higher pressures, well, that's a whole different ballgame, and maintenance is the key.

One last thought, I see a lot of videos online showing guys pulling the head and smearing grease on the cylinder walls. This is a bad practice. If done very sparingly it can be ok, but is not best practice. It takes like less than 5 minutes to pull the piston, clean the thing up and grease the giant groove in the piston, then just the right amount of cylinder lube migrates to the walls on each stroke. Keep the groove full and everything will be fine. Even lubing the groove, when you pull the head, you'll see a small accumulation of grease on the head, and you'll know it's getting plenty of lube without the massive overdose I see online.

 

[Soren Drost]

Just had my Hill EC-3000 serviced today at 28 hours of use

Fresh oil and silicone and changed a few o-rings

 

[Dogowski]

Just had my Hill EC-3000 serviced today at 28 hours of use

Fresh oil and silicone and changed a few o-rings

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Sweet compressor Soren! Very nice.

 

[Madhatter]

I can’t be bought! Wait, Did someone say cake

You mention cake I’m all in

Dang cake eaters! Officers!!

 

[Madhatter]

I guess it's a good thing we got cheap china shoes and well built cars here

Can't put too much faith in the power grid but gurentee the power bill is coming working or not ..

I haven't had a electric bill in almost 5 years.

 

[Madhatter]

I live completely off grid. I haul my own water and the propane is delivered. It's not the kind of living most city people would be comfortable doing. I'm 5.5 miles up a unmaintained dirt road and when it rains a lot you don't go anywhere.

 

[Doc Holiday]

I haven't had a electric bill in almost 5 years.

Do you have some type of solar panels?

 

[Madhatter]

12 2600watt panels along with a very large fork lift battery for storage.

 

[Doc Holiday]

12 2600watt panels along with a very large fork lift battery for storage.

Do you ever hand pump your pcp air

 

[Sr.airgunner]

When the technology has progressed to the point that a compressor costs about the same as a half decent scope, and considerably less than a very good scope, it's a no brainer to me. I'm not an optics snob, but the cheapest scope that I actually use is probably an Airmax 4-12X and it cost more than any of my compressors.

I have to admit I was very skeptical of GX compressors, or any of the, shall we say, "$200 compressors", and that is part of the reason I bought more than one. I hand pumped a while, and it was a chore, I don't care what anyone says. I was thinking the only good pcp was a 10m rifle that got several hundred shots per fill. When I dove in to compressors, I figured, if it didn't work well at least I could rebuild them and keep them going long enough to, at least, get my money's worth. If you consider fills at a scuba place, which I'm told now range around $15, that's a dozen or so fills, and each fill could give you, lets' say 20 decent fills, heck I use that in a weekend sometimes, and if I'm working on a gun, even more than that. So, suffice to say, in convenience, in physical exertion, and in just not having to worry about an uninterupted air supply, it's probably the best $200 spent.
I've read all kinds of stories about breakdowns and longevity issues, but I can't confirm any of that. I have to guess that, like all things, there are some lemons, but I would also guess that a lot of people get the compressor and don't do any maintenance to it and don't follow good procedures like not starting under pressure and things of that nature, and this is the overwhelming cause of failures. I'm mentioned in other threads that, my neighbor has abused his CS3 astonishingly and it still keeps on going, but we all know, he's running on borrowed time right now and I look for it to fail at some point. Simple things like only running for 10 minutes or less and only filling guns and managing heat and moisture will go a long, long way to preserving a compressor's life.

I would also say, that the manufacturer's saying to let the compressor go for a year or so without any inspection and re-greasing is a bad idea. For one thing, you don't really know how it's used. I mean, if everyone followed the procedure of never running it over 10-15 minutes at a time, only filled a gun or two a week and only to mild pressures of say 230 bar, then yeah, there'd be no need to do much maintenance in a year. But, IF, you have several pcp airguns, and you shoot most every day and you use a LOT of air, and you pump to much higher pressures, well, that's a whole different ballgame, and maintenance is the key.

One last thought, I see a lot of videos online showing guys pulling the head and smearing grease on the cylinder walls. This is a bad practice. If done very sparingly it can be ok, but is not best practice. It takes like less than 5 minutes to pull the piston, clean the thing up and grease the giant groove in the piston, then just the right amount of cylinder lube migrates to the walls on each stroke. Keep the groove full and everything will be fine. Even lubing the groove, when you pull the head, you'll see a small accumulation of grease on the head, and you'll know it's getting plenty of lube without the massive overdose I see online.

Hand pumping might be OK for a young guy who wants a workout but it makes each shot more costly as you think how many pumps it takes if you pull the trigger. All I can say for that workout is it saves a lot of pellets.

 

[Hateful McNasty]

Hand pumping might be OK for a young guy who wants a workout but it makes each shot more costly as you think how many pumps it takes if you pull the trigger. All I can say for that workout is it saves a lot of pellets.

So pcp is money well spent ?

 

[Sr.airgunner]

So pcp is money well spent ?

I feel the same way about break barrel airguns. I like to hit a quarter size target consistently at 60 yards and I can shoot each shot in less than 3 seconds without pulling the scope off the target. This makes a followup shot so quick to finish the clean kill goal. I have the advantage of being a lefty shooter so I can cock the pcp without taking my finger off the trigger area. Relax Hateful; I know you are a determined breakbarrel only airgun shooter.

 

[Alan]

I don't shoot as much as I used to. Even then, I go through about 500 rounds per month. The vast majority of those rounds are shot towards pest animals. The point here is, if you shoot a lot, a compressor is a necessity, not a luxury!