Ghost Ghost HP Regulator Creep

[Hapo]

...I was picking off grapes @25 yards over the chrono...that is like my minimum standard of accuracy...

...we will see aboot the 1st cold shot after it sits for more than a day...

...if just shooting it every day will keep the cold shot at bay I suppose I could live like that...

 

[Danman]

...we will see aboot the 1st cold shot after it sits for more than a day...

...if just shooting it every day will keep the cold shot at bay I suppose I could live like that...

Or up the reg pressure

 

[Luis Leon]

...so long as it doesn't have a creepy regulator, eh...

...let us not got Full AGN here...LoL...

Looking at your older posts complaining about your Ghost on AGN. It seems you would be better served by a Sniper XR, Commander XR or a Concept XR. Less adjustability for “some” to get lost in the process. But still the same great performance…

 

[Corvid_Hunter]

Reminds me of a hand wringing old woman.

 

[Hapo]

 

[Luis Leon]

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How adult of you…I currently own three BRKs and have owned five… “All” stellar in performance and value… Guess that makes me a “fan boy”. Legitimate complaints? Have at it, but don’t try and talk the platform down because you may not understand how to play with the available adjustments.

 

[Solo1]

So glad someone else said that!

 

[hameditor]

OK folks. Time out, please, on the personal stuff. Thank you!

 

[Hapo]

...it was never my intention to talk down the Ghost...I didn't realize we were only supposed to praise it...

...I didn't even start this creepy thread... (grin)

...this didn't seem like the place to comment upon trigger (fair) nor accuracy (excellent), but mine is hitting dandelion heads @ 25 yards...(ran out of grapes)...everyone already knows the stock trigger suks and that the platform sets world records, eh...

...as also noted on other threads and forums I have spent quite a bit of $$$ on stuff and parts for my Ghost...I feel entitled to comment upon it as I see fit...

...this thread and the information provided by the helpful members has been very...helpful...thanks...

...I found a post from an FX thread @ AGN helpful...it helps one of less brilliance grasp the issue...

...I have always really liked FX rifles but always knew I could never manage one of those...

Nico5999

Virtually every reg can/will creep to some extent. It is just the nature of the design.

There are ways to mitigate it though if you need that first shot to matter and can't purge your gun. Depending on the severity of the reg creep, if you find your ideal velocity/reg pressure/HS settings, then back the reg off 3-5 BAR, your velocity will be virtually unchanged but when the reg creeps back up the valve is still able to be opened all the way by the hammer so there is no discernible POI change.

I forgot who I heard that from originally. Not my idea. A bunch of FT shooters I know used to tune like that since at GP matches a rifle might sit for 30 minutes in between lanes.

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[Centerfire]

...a 22 shot string started @ 889.9, maxed @ 894.8, and the last shot (#22) was 888.9 fps...

...near as I can see the bottle is at 175 BAR...regulator @ 125 BAR...

...at first, I thought I was seeing that 1st cold shot thing but now I do not know what I am seeing...

...it seems to be settling in around 890 fps...

For what it is worth I have a Delta Wolf. Noticed low first shots. Have tried 1 or 2 blank shots or one or two fowler pellets. Might try and see which one might help. Also I turned up the regulator 2-3 units and that also seemed to help. The best helper is your chrono. If possible always shoot and save the results. It does tell the truth.
Centerfire

 

[pan60]

my wifes BRK Concept seem like the first shot is always hotter then the rest but i never worry much about it. down range i am not sure if effects what i am shoot at much?
i am not a big BRK fan but i do like the one Carol have i dont love it but i like it enough i have a interest in the GHOST the only thing that would pull the GHOT off my going to get soon list and adding it to he i want one someday list would be if TOM at AAA releases the EVOL in a bullpup format.
my bigest complaint with the Wife BRK is the trigger i dont figer i am a trigerr snob but i think the trigger is horible but that just my two cents i t would NOT stop me from getting another BRK gun the biuld qualty is very nice it seems to me to be a very dorable gun that will hold up. very well built.
i think if someone wanted the trigger could be adressed with minimal work i have thought about opening this one but the wifes said she likes so i am leaving alone its hers.
in all thes pnumatic gun there are moving partsand seals its all machanics and with this you will see issues in any mass pruduced product. they are warrented so i persanally wouldnt worry to much have them address the issue or send you the parts maybe?
i think it suck when you get something thats not a 100% specialy with this kinda of money involved but i would not hold against BRK

sometimes shit happens.
pan
: )

 

[Hapo]

...after 36 hours I fired 11 shots and got an average of 886 fps with a min of 885.4 and a max of 888.8...

...the 1st shot was 885.5...

...air tank shows 160 bar...

 

[Corvid_Hunter]

...there most be something to complain about there...
...or not...
...be happy...

 

[Hapo]

...it seems like the average is a bit lower than the last string...

...I gain weight, but my arms stay skinny...

...people here are more like over at AGN than I thought... .!..!.

 

[Corvid_Hunter]

...Generally, people don't like being rubbed the wrong way...

...I have no idea what the common denominator is between the two boards....

 

[Hapo]

...indeed...

...air guns maybe...???...

...anyway, now I am going to charge up the Ghost and endeavor to let it sit for 72 hours to see if the slow first shot manifests itself at this state of tune...

...if there is no noticeable creep I will recharge and let sit for 144 hours...I figger at some point we will notice some sort of creep...I aims to figger where that is, at least for my Ghost...I understand that, just like powder burners, they will not all be exactly the same...it might still be useful data...

...I have other guns I can use if a squirrel shows up...this is science...!!!...

...not sure if getting a chronograph that I can use was the smartest move I have made in a while or a big-ass mistake...

 

[Danman]

...indeed...

...air guns maybe...???...

...anyway, now I am going to charge up the Ghost and endeavor to let it sit for 72 hours to see if the slow first shot manifests itself at this state of tune...

...if there is no noncable creep I will recharge and let sit for 144 hours...I figger at some point we will notice some sort of creep...I aims to figger where that is, at least for my Ghost...I understand that, just like powder burners, they will not all be exactly the same the same...it might still be useful data...

...I have other guns I can use if a squirrel shows up...this is science...!!!...

...not sure if getting a chronograph that I can use was the smartest move I have made in a while or a big-ass mistake...

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I say ignorance is bliss unless you have a problem, are testing new ammo or just did repairs. Then I break out the chrono. Maybe 1 in 4 shooting sessions it's out. Your second shot string is about 5fps less overall? Definitely not an issue, heck could be the air temp, pressure....My TX200 has lost 80fps all of a sudden. Now that concerns me!! But it's still shooting sweet so I leave alone 4 now.