Ghost Ghost tuning

[Solo1]

I agree with the other responses. It does seem daystate has some barrel quality issues which is completely sad given what they cost. I think this can get into people’s heads and make them immediately think they have a bad barrel. I have two of them, a .25 DW and a .30. I have gone back and forth thinking my .25 especially was a little funky. However one time I found the picatiny scope riser rail (it’s a delta converted to an alpha ) was loose and the scope ring base screws had also loosened. Whew I was relieved. Also conditions are a bigger factor with these guns it seems to me. To get a really good read make sure everything is tight and find a dead calm day and shoot then. Both of mine flat out shoot in nice conditions. As good as anything I own so I know the barrels are good. However, I swear I’m crazy or something but I’m convinced that projectiles out of these daystate barrels are more effected by the wind than say my FX soda straws are. Seems crazy but I am becoming convinced. The fx liners get a lot of flack but man they shoot accurately more consistently often. The daystate will do it just seems not quite as often and this is mainly the .25. I know it’s super weird. At least doing it in that manner can help you determine if it is the barrel by eliminating as many other variables as possible. Not saying that it couldn’t be the barrel. It might very well be. Just read all the threads on the black wolf. People are seemingly having to work pretty hard to get many of them to even shoot pellets well. Pretty mind boggling.

You’re 25 barrel might just need a bit more polishing. My reveree barrel is bright and shinny from 1 end to the other and thats after shooting some slugs and pellets through it. None of my ghost barrels were that well polished when new. This i believe is a place where daystate and brk have deceided to save some money. I also believe this is the cause for flyers as lead is stripped off 1 pellet to make it unbalanced and then possibly deposited on another to again create imbalance.

 

[Linehauler73]

You’re 25 barrel might just need a bit more polishing. My reveree barrel is bright and shinny from 1 end to the other and thats after shooting some slugs and pellets through it. None of my ghost barrels were that well polished when new. This i believe is a place where daystate and brk have deceided to save some money. I also believe this is the cause for flyers as lead is stripped off 1 pellet to make it unbalanced and then possibly deposited on another to again create imbalance.

Could very well be. I know there was a guy over on AGN that I don’t believe is around anymore that made a breech for the wolfs that allowed an FX barrel to be used. Been thinking of trying to track one down. Those never need cleaning and always shoot awesome.

 

[Solo1]

Could very well be. I know there was a guy over on AGN that I don’t believe is around anymore that made a breech for the wolfs that allowed an FX barrel to be used. Been thinking of trying to track one down. Those never need cleaning and always shoot awesome.

Thats the best thing about fx barrels they are very smooth on the inside before the rifling is pressed from the outside so there is very minimal change if the smoothness inside. This is where polishing the inside of other barrels by removing any roughness that can gather lead. To me that lead that gathers anywhere in the barrel is not good as sooner or later it will affecct accuracy

 

[Spit-in-Lead]

I recently picked up a 25 cal 23" barrel. It's a 5 groove 1:30 twist I intend to shoot pellets with. I have cleaned the barrel and pushed 2 different JSB's vesions through to see how they pass, but no polishing thus far. My next step before mounting and shooting is a JB compound clean followed by JB bore bright.
What are others doing with the non slug barrel and how well does it shoot for you?
What steps (if any) did you take to prep the barrel?

 

[Solo1]

Mine shoots very well after polishing.

 

[Spit-in-Lead]

Mine shoots very well after polishing.

How did you go about your polishing session?
May I presume same barrel?

 

[Billm]

Mine shoots really well too. I’m afraid to change anything on mine now. My wife and I have been shooting pumpkins over the last three days. My wife shot hers at 21yds, I shot one at 50 yds (didn’t like the design on that one and it rotted). I shot another today at 39yds. I’m just amazed the point of impact (elevation) is almost exactly the same at all three ranges. I’m having flashbacks to when I would zero my centerfires for “Point Blank Range”. I usually shoot pellets between 850-900 fps. Mostly at 850 in the Sonoran. My ghost is shooting JSB .25 25.39gr pellets at 960-970fps and the accuracy is amazing me. That’s at 130bar and the power wheel at 8. I’m convinced that two things have helped to make this happen. The barrel polishing and I suspect that maybe the barrel is seated better - but that’s a wild guess. In between shooting chunks out of the pumpkin at 39 yds I was shooting 2” spinners at 106yds with the same pellets and some holdover.

 

[Spit-in-Lead]

My Ghost 177 came to me pretty well set up from AOA. Chris tried getting it to tune with the 23" 177, but after some work at it, he swapped to the 17". Good call because it groups really well. Mine has the 0dB tuner and one silencer section. When I swap out to setup the 25 tune, I'll give that barrel a clean and polish. I am curious to see if the pellets drag in the same areas as the 25.

 

[Spit-in-Lead]

So I will take what I have read here on HAM as well as AGN to set the 25. Probably go to the blue spring and leave the reg set at 135. Everyone was surprised it was set at the pressure for 177 - after reading a lot of Franklink's posts, it seems high, but it shoots really well. I expect more effect from the power wheel with the blue spring. For the 177, it was set just under 20PFE, so 920-925FPS, 10.34gr JSB.

 

[Spit-in-Lead]

Mine shoots really well too. I’m afraid to change anything on mine now. My wife and I have been shooting pumpkins over the last three days. My wife shot hers at 21yds, I shot one at 50 yds (didn’t like the design on that one and it rotted). I shot another today at 39yds. I’m just amazed the point of impact (elevation) is almost exactly the same at all three ranges. I’m having flashbacks to when I would zero my centerfires for “Point Blank Range. I usually shoot pellets between 850-900 fps. Mostly at 850 in the Sonoran. My ghost is shooting JSB .25 25.39gr pellets at 960-970fps and the accuracy is amazing me. That’s at 130bar and the power wheel at 8. I’m convinced that two things have helped to make this happen. The barrel polishing and I suspect that maybe the barrel is seated better - but that’s a wild guess. In between shooting chunks out of the pumpkin at 39 yds I was shooting 2” spinners at 106yds with the same pellets and some holdover.

That is really good to hear. I have both 25.39 & 33.95gr. Are you using the blue spring?

 

[Billm]

So I will take what I have read here on HAM as well as AGN to set the 25. Probably go to the blue spring and leave the reg set at 135. Everyone was surprised it was set at the pressure for 177 - after reading a lot of Franklink's posts, it seems high, but it shoots really well. I expect more effect from the power wheel with the blue spring. For the 177, it was set just under 20PFE, so 920-925FPS, 10.34gr JSB.

I haven’t played with springs yet.

 

[Billm]

That is really good to hear. I have both 25.39 & 33.95gr. Are you using the blue spring?

I have no idea what spring is in mine. I bought it used from AOA. I guess I need to look.

 

[Billm]

So I will take what I have read here on HAM as well as AGN to set the 25. Probably go to the blue spring and leave the reg set at 135. Everyone was surprised it was set at the pressure for 177 - after reading a lot of Franklink's posts, it seems high, but it shoots really well. I expect more effect from the power wheel with the blue spring. For the 177, it was set just under 20PFE, so 920-925FPS, 10.34gr JSB.

As far as polishing, I took advice from several of these guys and combined them. I started with a brass brush and Ballistol, then patches. Then I used several mops with JB Bire Cleaner, starting at the breech, 15-20 strokes for the first third
,then the same for the first two thirds, followed by the same for the full length of the barrel. Then I cleaned the barrel and did a finishing polish with Flitz. Then I cleaned the barrel again.

**I originally posted that I used J-B Bore Bright, I did not, I used J-B Bore Cleaner which is a little more aggressive.**

 

[kcender]

Mine shoots really well too. I’m afraid to change anything on mine now. My wife and I have been shooting pumpkins over the last three days. My wife shot hers at 21yds, I shot one at 50 yds (didn’t like the design on that one and it rotted). I shot another today at 39yds. I’m just amazed the point of impact (elevation) is almost exactly the same at all three ranges. I’m having flashbacks to when I would zero my centerfires for “Point Blank Range”. I usually shoot pellets between 850-900 fps. Mostly at 850 in the Sonoran. My ghost is shooting JSB .25 25.39gr pellets at 960-970fps and the accuracy is amazing me. That’s at 130bar and the power wheel at 8. I’m convinced that two things have helped to make this happen. The barrel polishing and I suspect that maybe the barrel is seated better - but that’s a wild guess. In between shooting chunks out of the pumpkin at 39 yds I was shooting 2” spinners at 106yds with the same pellets and some holdover.

Been looking at the results of you pumpkin carvers for a while now and think you need to be shooting sub 12’s. Looks like too much fun blowing stuff up and calling it art! Haha.

 

[Billm]

Been looking at the results of you pumpkin carvers for a while now and think you need to be shooting sub 12’s. Looks like too much fun blowing stuff up and calling it art! Haha.

Well, we’ve been gone all day and just got home. We tried to stage my pumpkin, but it is falling apart. There’s no structure left and it’s soggy. I’m going back out and blowing it to pieces with the night vision lol.

 

[pan60]

Been looking at the results of you pumpkin carvers for a while now and think you need to be shooting sub 12’s. Looks like too much fun blowing stuff up and calling it art! Haha.

we need to talk you into giving it a go. its a hoot and not easy.

 

[ARW]

My Ghost .22 cal. HP barrel really loves to be kept clean. I have had it for a while now and it has shown me over and over that the groups will open up if I don't listen to it and clean it often. I am not a believer in shooting until the accuracy drops off, rather I believe in cleaning before the accuracy drops off.

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[Corvid_Hunter]

I ran across video and he seems to be having some luck with the H&N slugs with his Ghost. I might have to give them a try in .25cal. Start at 13:18 on the video.

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[Spit-in-Lead]

For those of you shooting the 25 cal 1:30 twist barrel, are you also shooting slugs with success, and by success I mean at 100 yds?

Is the 1:30, 5-flute barrel considered too slow for slugs?

 

[Billm]

Take a look at this thread
Ghost .25 and Slugs
Ghost - Ghost .25 and Slugs