Pics have been a must for a long time. 3x harder to sell without pics and credibility. I don't come here that often, but listening to people who want every safeguard possible to the point that no-one wants to sell doesn't seem to be working. Plus, the 100-point thing is a deal breaker for many.
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I like the idea of the 100 point as you know you are dealing with someone that has been around a less like to take advantage of folks.
personally I would do it a bit different but I would stop require the paper with details in the pic.
one option I like would basic you buy the opertunety to sale in the classified one time point cost and you in sell what you want but I would also make the point cost for this a bit steeper and I would require a one year membership regardless of point.
for me ( and I am not the boss so ) I am always reading how someone got screwgded on a forums calsified so I would think the buy are welcome to these say Guards and as such the should be as well?
I would offer this, come up with a list of ideas that would improve the system but remember its not about making it easy for someone to just on and sell something its about protecting our community.
the Boss didn't want a classified section to Strat with as I understand because he didn't what to see anyone take advantage of so in keeping with that brain storm?
and since I don't want to speak for the boss when he gets time I am sure he will address some of these thoughts.
personally I would do it a bit different but I would stop require the paper with details in the pic.
one option I like would basic you buy the opertunety to sale in the classified one time point cost and you in sell what you want but I would also make the point cost for this a bit steeper and I would require a one year membership regardless of point.
for me ( and I am not the boss so ) I am always reading how someone got screwgded on a forums calsified so I would think the buy are welcome to these say Guards and as such the should be as well?
I would offer this, come up with a list of ideas that would improve the system but remember its not about making it easy for someone to just on and sell something its about protecting our community.
the Boss didn't want a classified section to Strat with as I understand because he didn't what to see anyone take advantage of so in keeping with that brain storm?
and since I don't want to speak for the boss when he gets time I am sure he will address some of these thoughts.
June 28, 2023 The official launch date of the
Hard Air Magazine Community.
Yes, less than two years old.
It still has a way to go (thankfully) before it’s as big as some other places.
The Classified section? A lot less than that!!!
My point is simple, give it time to grow ALL OF IT.
Hard Air Magazine Community.
Yes, less than two years old.
It still has a way to go (thankfully) before it’s as big as some other places.
The Classified section? A lot less than that!!!
My point is simple, give it time to grow ALL OF IT.
Hoppalong Doc
HAM Ranger
Cost? What cost. . . HAM points are FREE in recognition of your free participation on this free fourm. Orv.
mike56
HAM Sharp Shooter
Yep. best way to do it,,
mike
I’ve read complaints about the classifieds on HAM and AGN and I’ve posted my gripes and opinions about both. However, Mr. Archer has put a considerable amount of effort to facilitate a classifieds forum on HAM and it doesn’t appear to be used much at all. What’s going on? Are people hoarding HAM points or what? Before anyone asks, “well why don’t you use the classifieds?” I have and I didn’t get into this hobby to buy and sell. I’m in it primarily to shoot and hunt. Also I’ve used some of my HAM points to purchase new items. I almost forgot to use my points, but Mr. Archer and the vendor accommodated my request so that I received a discount.
Enough about me. What’s going on with you guys? Several of you use the AGN classifieds with several complaints about how they’re run. Why aren’t HAM members using a classifieds section that they have had input on since it was in the planning phase? This is not the first time I’ve asked a similar question. I find this very peculiar and I genuinely do not understand what’s going on here.
Enough about me. What’s going on with you guys? Several of you use the AGN classifieds with several complaints about how they’re run. Why aren’t HAM members using a classifieds section that they have had input on since it was in the planning phase? This is not the first time I’ve asked a similar question. I find this very peculiar and I genuinely do not understand what’s going on here.
Well, I don't sell anything. I traded once, usually just buy and keep. I think if you read back through this thread (I just did) all of the points made are still relevant, and answer your question. HAMeditor said he would tweek the classifieds when he thought he needed too, it's up to him.
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@Pumacarl I’m not seeing it. Anyone having any issues with participation prior to the launch of the classifieds has had ample time to participate and accrue a few hundred HAM points. As for people being told what to do, when you die maybe you won’t have that issues any longer. I really don’t know, but I honestly can’t think of many (if any) places where one won’t have to adhere to some form or set(s) of rules which is essentially being told what to do. That’s just life. Now if we’re talking about how people want to feel, that’s entirely different. It was suggested to give it time. Time has elapsed and I am not seeing any sort of noticeable change in activity, granted I’m not looking at the classifieds here everyday.
So if people want to feel as if they can do what they please, then I have no idea how that’s going to play out. For people that have been through this process of building a commercial segment of a forum before, how does this normally work towards a desired result? What really needs to change to facilitate participation? This is a question to be answered on an individual and personal basis per member.
Edit: I do understand technological challenges for a segment of the community.
I tried to post a WTS once, and the hoops I had to jump through were simply discouraging to the point of taking the path of least resistance, selling it on "the other forum" classifieds.
@Franklink Thank you for being “Frank.” What specifically was your most challenging hoop/task in trying to sell here?
In that particular instance I had already taken all my photos, then went to post it and saw the requirements to have a piece of paper with my info on it in one of the photos. The second big deterrent was needing to state which shipping company I was going to use. Whichever one was most convenient for where I was on the day I was available to ship the product, which would be determined by what day it sold. Ie impossible for me to know which shipping company I was going to use at that time.
All in all, simply too much hassle. I get that the goal was less scammers, and that's probably the case. Ive yet to be scammed on the other big forums classifieds...some of getting scammed is self-induced, by agreeing to conditions of the sale/purchase that put you at risk.
All in all, simply too much hassle. I get that the goal was less scammers, and that's probably the case. Ive yet to be scammed on the other big forums classifieds...some of getting scammed is self-induced, by agreeing to conditions of the sale/purchase that put you at risk.
MountainSportAirguns
Good Level Advertiser
I think the goal is simply to eliminate those that join only to sell/scam etc, and to actually never participate otherwise. The privilege is for "active members" that regularly participate....we know them. I have loads of things to sell but regardless of if it's here or another forum the hassle of dealing with "people" and shipping is deterrent enough. Lol I think the post count and or points system is a good way to eliminate some of these problems but in the end everything has a risk. I think showing that the photos are legitimate to the poster is a pita but kinda necessary.
@Franklink Ahhhh. I see. That makes sense.
@MountainSportAirguns Good point on enacting policies to deter random people from joining just to try to dump something without having interest in contributing to or participating in the airgun community.
@MountainSportAirguns Good point on enacting policies to deter random people from joining just to try to dump something without having interest in contributing to or participating in the airgun community.
Chief 10-Beers
HAM Sniper
It is interesting that just prior to reading this thread I looked the Classifieds. I saw this "You have insufficient privileges to reply here." I found it strange. But I figured I could always PM the seller anyway. Maybe that means that only "Admin" can comment?
There was concern that someone might offer a little more money to take the deal if negotiations were public.
Also stoking general interference like changing the dynamic of the classified by turning it into a discussion, debate or worse.
Chief 10-Beers
HAM Sniper
True, I guess why almost all classifieds everywhere have comments turned off.
My .02
The classifieds are here and they work. Does it really matter if there’s 4 ads or 400?
The way I see it the classifieds are a “privilege” for serious members that make a contribution to our community, The HAM Community.
Full disclosure I am 100% HAMster and not a member of any other Airgun forum(s) nor do I care to be. I can’t make any comment or comparison as to what “others” have or do, because they do not matter to me.
FL22
The classifieds are here and they work. Does it really matter if there’s 4 ads or 400?
The way I see it the classifieds are a “privilege” for serious members that make a contribution to our community, The HAM Community.
Full disclosure I am 100% HAMster and not a member of any other Airgun forum(s) nor do I care to be. I can’t make any comment or comparison as to what “others” have or do, because they do not matter to me.
FL22
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