Info Your Input Requested - HAM Community Classifieds Questions

[Basher]

No discussion via pm apart from bank details

You lost me there. If I can’t ask and answer questions in a PM, I’m neither buying nor selling. Can you explain why eliminating discussion about an ad would be a wise thing to do?

 

[Lee unsworth]

You lost me there. If I can’t ask and answer questions in a PM, I’m neither buying nor selling. Can you explain why eliminating discussion about an ad would be a wise thing to do?

It keeps it all transparent and nothing is hidden . Normal some one will list an item say a rifle

Rifle for sale
Yep I will take it for xxx amount
Then send addresses pay details via pm

What can happen is someone will say they want an item and the seller has had a pm for £20-£30 more than the asking price and people start getting very upset from deals behind the scenes

 

[Ezana4CE]

It keeps it all transparent and nothing is hidden...

What can happen is someone will say they want an item and the seller has had a pm for £20-£30 more than the asking price and people start getting very upset from deals behind the scenes

@Lee unsworth I say let the community know who these folks are so that they can be avoided. Now if a buyer is upset because a seller reneged on a deal in order to accept a higher offer after a deal's been struck, that's understandable and we should know which seller pulls that mess so we can choose not to deal with them if we don't want to take that sort of risk.

 

[Basher]

It keeps it all transparent and nothing is hidden . Normal some one will list an item say a rifle

Rifle for sale
Yep I will take it for xxx amount
Then send addresses pay details via pm

What can happen is someone will say they want an item and the seller has had a pm for £20-£30 more than the asking price and people start getting very upset from deals behind the scenes

The flip-side is that haggling and dealmaking would then be public, which clutters the ads up and becomes difficult to follow at times. Trade-offs happen with everything. Also, there would literally be NO way to enforce that without turning off PMs altogether or having a moderator as full-time staff who could go and read anyone’s PMs at will. That seems like a violation of privacy I have no interest in, and I’m sure nobody wants that job to begin with. Implementation would be the real challenge with that, and people would always find ways to work around it.

A better option would be as @Ezana4CE says, which is utilizing the feedback forum or having a feedback thread to report such sellers. Not much else to do there.

 

[hameditor]

Right now our plans are for public comments to be disabled for Classified ads and all communications to be by PM between the parties.

 

[Ezana4CE]

Right now our plans are for public comments to be disabled for Classified ads and all communications to be by PM between the parties.

@hameditor Will there be a system that allows for the community to see honest feedback about the transaction after it's concluded?

 

[hameditor]

@hameditor Will there be a system that allows for the community to see honest feedback about the transaction after it's concluded?

We're looking into it. At this time, we would like to do it but I can't make a commitment yet.

Do other members think this would be a big benefit?

 

[FL22]

We're looking into it. At this time, we would like to do it but I can't make a commitment yet.

Do other members think this would be a big benefit?

100% it’s a must in my opinion.

 

[Basher]

We're looking into it. At this time, we would like to do it but I can't make a commitment yet.

Do other members think this would be a big benefit?

110% a must, IMO!

 

[Luis Leon]

Yes, because it may help to establish a base of good buyers and sellers. Consideration should be given to establish an “uncluttered” classifieds transactions feedback section. Where “only” the parties doing business with each other can comment on the experience.

 

[pan60]

100% it’s a must in my opinion.

very important!

 

[Hoppalong Doc]

I too feel that comments following a sale could be an asset to our use and knowledge of the Classifieds. Perhaps it could be handled by a participant being allowed one comment and no more. This would allow the fourm readers one chance to state their knowledge as well as opinions. This wisdom would be shared without the subject becoming cumbersome or argumentative. Orv.

 

[pan60]

be nice if we could click on the sales user name and see comments on transactions?

 

[jlowe]

Is there going to be an update as to how the classifieds work?

 

[Scriv]

I'm thinking two weeks is a good amount of time. That should give an appropriate priced item enough exposure to sell. Longer than that and it gets buried which benefits no one. 100 points should do it, and makes relisting it not all that penal.

 

[jlowe]

I'm thinking two weeks is a good amount of time. That should give an appropriate priced item enough exposure to sell. Longer than that and it gets buried which benefits no one. 100 points should do it, and makes relisting it not all that penal.

100 points is a massive failure so far.

 

[PasadenaMike]

100 points is a massive failure so far.

Maybe change it to say. Member has had so many posts they can just post without costing points.

 

[FL22]

100 points is a massive failure so far.

I disagree with you completely.

I have yet to see one post on the forum saying, oh I have all these excellent Airguns that I want to sell, but I cannot overcome the 100 points barrier.

 

[Pumacarl]

I called this one pretty accurately I think in post #65 up above. Things are definitely slower than they should be, looking at all the traffic from members here, over on AGN's classifieds.

Unfortunately, I also think, and this is just a lazy Saturday morning guess, that adults just don't like being told they have to do things a certain way. Considering, a lot of us are older, we don't want to learn how to take a picture with our cell phones and actually post it. I know SO MANY people like this, they'll say, " can you put that on the computer for me, I don't know how to do all that stuff," yet they are on their phones all the time too. There is tech laziness, even amongst super hard working individuals. And, a long standing active member might think that they should not have to prove continually that they are not a bad actor.

Everything being done for these classifieds was for safety and would be tweaked as needed. I am on this forum and AGN every single day. I have seen many members from here, posting on AGN's classifieds, but not these. So the big question is why? I gave my guess and my solution, in post 65, what's yours?

 

[Franklink]

I've sold airgun stuff since the classifieds section here went active, but I did it elsewhere.

The biggest reason was a that I didn't know at the time of listing which shipper I was going to use. And that's required.

I also had already taken my photos, THEN read that I needed a photo with the item with a piece of paper with my name on it.

Then there's the point situation. Almost all of this is to keep out the riffraff, but ultimately, the path of least resistance was to simply sell me stuff elsewhere.