- Original poster
- #61
I have never heard of anyone using lead washers to seal before, that's interesting. I don't believe that I have ever even seen lead washers before. Who turned you on to using them? Is this from some trade craft?
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Others TalonP Carbine, Better Late than Never!
- Thread starter Pumacarl
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- Original poster
- #63
I put on a new long picatinny rail today. I had to cut off a 2" forward extention it had and I also cut off about a 1/4" off of the back dovetail rail on the gun. I could not stand the look of the extended point that thing had, I'm not big on what's left but it probably does provide some protection.
I think it looks a lot better.
Check out the guage. Somehow water got in there when it was blowing bubbles out. I kept turning that guage until the bubbles stopped and I really was certain that I was going to break or strip something. Amazingly, about a 3/4 of a turn further than I thought I should be at, it did stop leaking but I noticed the moisture in the guage. If it holds air, I will live with it.
I also shortened my bolt handle a little and now it fits and functions like it is supposed to. I tested my trigger pull, just out of curiousity, because I don't think it's that bad, but it does have a longer first stage than I like. It tested at two pounds but feels lighter than that. I'm going to leave it be for now.
The new pic rail does not have any moa rise like the last one one did but I had my laser on the bottom and I just went outside and matched dots. All sighted in, that was easy. Even the cheapest of lasers (this one is $7) can be such time savers.
I am going to paint this gun soon, but besides that I think it is ready for some ballistic trials. I am going to try the oring thing and see how flat I can get 5 shot strings at 850fps avg, and how flat I can get a 10 shot string at 830fps avg., I don't want to shoot below 830fps. If anybody has any advice on what type and size of o-ring to use I'd appreciate it.
- Original poster
- #64
I shot a seven shot string today that stayed above 850fps, the first shot I chronied was the third and it was 890fps, the eighth dropped below to 846fps. That's smoking for this little thing, with 20 year old tech. Still amazes me. I turned the power down to 4.5 and the power plateaued at 866fps, I am going to run with that when I shoot groups this weekend.
The dot sight had to come off. My astigmatism is showing itself and I need to get get some new glasses. I had one of the little Discovery 2-12x scopes laying around and sighted it in and was shooting an 85y out there target in no time. This gun has legs. I am looking into a prism scope, so I don't need to leave batteries in it, and it works better with astigmatism, but now I'm thinking I need to get at least a 3x since it shoots well, further, than I thought it would be able to. I have a little Nikon 3x scope that I might use too. I don't know yet how all of this stuff is going to work being left in a truck, in the summer time. The only other thing that I am looking for is a slick single handed pellet dispencer to mount to the gun.
I am noticing, that with the new aluminum breech, a shot is making more gun noise and I hear some spring twang. There is a lot of power happening in a small space, and it is what it is, but it is noticable. Probably moreso because my Barra 250z is just about a silent shot cycle comparitively, and has me spoiled. I am getting itchy to paint now, but the weather needs to cooperate first. I plan on doing this gun quick and dirty. No disassembly, just tape over the serial number, remove the optic and hit it. It's going to have to lead a tough life so I'm not going to go crazy with the detail.
The dot sight had to come off. My astigmatism is showing itself and I need to get get some new glasses. I had one of the little Discovery 2-12x scopes laying around and sighted it in and was shooting an 85y out there target in no time. This gun has legs. I am looking into a prism scope, so I don't need to leave batteries in it, and it works better with astigmatism, but now I'm thinking I need to get at least a 3x since it shoots well, further, than I thought it would be able to. I have a little Nikon 3x scope that I might use too. I don't know yet how all of this stuff is going to work being left in a truck, in the summer time. The only other thing that I am looking for is a slick single handed pellet dispencer to mount to the gun.
I am noticing, that with the new aluminum breech, a shot is making more gun noise and I hear some spring twang. There is a lot of power happening in a small space, and it is what it is, but it is noticable. Probably moreso because my Barra 250z is just about a silent shot cycle comparitively, and has me spoiled. I am getting itchy to paint now, but the weather needs to cooperate first. I plan on doing this gun quick and dirty. No disassembly, just tape over the serial number, remove the optic and hit it. It's going to have to lead a tough life so I'm not going to go crazy with the detail.
- Original poster
- #66
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It has really been surprising to me, especially because I have been around these guns since they first came out, and never gave them a thought because they" looked" cheap for their price, but I never held one either, they're solid. They are and always have been overpriced I think, between the stamped trigger/safety group the plastic breech and adjustment wheel, the price was up there. They should have upgraded those things over the years too, and they didn't. Still, they are powerful and simple, and if I had ever seen one in action I would have had one long ago. It's nice to finally know what everyone was always talking about. I think that I have actually been the one coming together on this project more than the gun itself. I see it's value and what it is, and isn't, and now I can appreciate it, and fix what I don't like about it. Pretty cool!
Billm
Grand HAMster
I have to admit, when I first took mine out of the box, I thought: “What the heck have I done”. But, along with the gun, I purchased the JSB mkII pellets that you recommended. I was amazed at its simplicity, accuracy and power in such a small and lightweight package. If I wanted an airgun for backpacking, this would be it with a sliding stock, especially over a traditional air pistol. You’ve done a good job bringing it up to your specs.
- Original poster
- #68
Thanks, but on this gun I have done almost nothing because I know what's coming for it, a mostly inglorious existence in the back of a truck. Even with the few delicate plastic parts it has, it's tough where it needs to be, and simple. Definately a tool.
- Original poster
- #70
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I cut that front thin section and then I actually cut the end of the top dovetail rail on the gun about a 1/4".
Be warned that this rail does not sit flat on the dovetail rail. It's one of those that ends up a little canted. I don't think it's that big of a deal because I set up the level on my scope to compensate for it so that the scope stays centered over the center of the bore. You just have to learn to trust your level. Buy one that corrects quickly, so you aren't always waiting for it. Most of these rails are not made to that high of a standard but I will tell you what, this rail was a hell of a lot harder to saw through than the rail built onto the TalonP, by a very wide margin.
Thanks for the link. I found some adapter rails that came in 24" sections and you cut what you wanted. That was z few years ago when I first started researching the project. I didn't get them then and I can't find them now! Looks good there man.
- Original poster
- #72
This Nikon P-223 Carbine 3x scope is perfect for this gun. The power is enough but doesn't hamper in close shooting. The depth of field is awesome, so the lack of a parallax is inconsequential. The reticle is actually thick enough to be useful, unlike the reticle on the Discovery 2-12x which I think is worthless at 4x and below. The simple markings in the reticle match well, to this guns ballistics, shooting JSB 34gr at 840-850fps. Zero'd at 35y, 30-50 is basically dead hold, the next line matches with 75y and the bottom line at 100y. The only thing missing is illumination, that would have been nice. Oh well, I don't have to worry about a battery I guess. I already had this scope, so buying a prism scope doesn't make much sense to me. There is no astigmatism problems with using a regular old scope either, so a prism purchase can wait. Maybe for a Microstrike.
Chief 10-Beers
HAM Sniper
I like Nikon Scopes. I have a 4-16 Red dot that I may try on the AirForce when it shows up. One of My Favs for Coyote hunting.
Looks great on there, lines matching up is a nice bonus. I will have to keep this in mind.
- Original poster
- #75
I just got done shooting this gun tethered at 2500psi. I wanted to see how accurate it it really was capable of being and I'm very impressed. I could just get nickel sized groups at 53y. I know if I would play with the trigger and put on a higher power scope on that the gun is capable of dime sized groups, me, not so much lately. It's more accurate than I was expecting at its power level with a short barrel.
I had forgotten that I have a Streamlight laser/light combo unit so I put that on and besides paint I'm pretty much there with this gun. I'm still looking for a good quick way to carry pellets but the gun is ready. Time to put in the truck, and monitor how it does.
I had forgotten that I have a Streamlight laser/light combo unit so I put that on and besides paint I'm pretty much there with this gun. I'm still looking for a good quick way to carry pellets but the gun is ready. Time to put in the truck, and monitor how it does.
- Original poster
- #76
Well, the work isn't over. Having trigger problems. I think I know what the fix is, and I think that I already bought a replacement spring from Talon Tunes, but I'm also changing out the stupid pin system for through bolts. I think we're getting rain this weekend, good timing.
The not being able to decock (without modifying) is wild to me. I've always de-cocked as a safety measure. Blows me away that the AF lawyers somehow decided not being able to decock was less litigious risk than being able to decock.
- Original poster
- #78
I know, right! Especially strange when at SHOT, ten years ago, at the introduction of the Texan, they made a big deal out of being able to uncock the gun because that's what their customers said they wanted. This is why internet users had to come up with the "smh" acronym, because they got physically tired from typing out "Shake My Head" all the time. A pain in the neck, both ways.
Chief 10-Beers
HAM Sniper
But if you remove the Auto safe it will allow you to uncock? Or no?
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