Choosing a fill method for different scenarios

[PasadenaMike]

So just like anything there’s a tool for every job and your fill source is no exception. Maybe you just have a hand pump and that’s all you use for everything and every scenario but I have a different approach because im
In this rabbit hole pretty deep and it’s dark down here. This is my idea of filling techniques for different scenarios

Hand Pump- great backup source for small cylinder guns. It’s a nice tool to keep in the van. Down side is you have to either pump on the dirt which I don’t do or place something on the dirt like a tarp or something. Just not a very convenient way to fill in the field for me so it’s the very last resort

Mini compressor- the idea of having unlimited air in the field is great but my time is limited in the field so I don’t want to waste it by firing up a mini compressor especially if it’s one that hooks to your car battery. I’ll do the 18 volt one, maybe. The noise is enough to have me not use it while hunting or pesting . The mini compressor on the other hand is great for extended shooting sessions when you have time and can care less about sound.

Large SCBA - for me hands down the best source of air for a weekend get away. Quick, dry and convenient as long as the tank stays in the car.

Small scba- excellent choice for a few hours of target shooting or hunting if you own guns with smaller air cylinders. This tank can be carried with you but there are better options

500cc buddy bottle/edgun peazy type- the perfect in the field companion for small air cylinder guns. Small , light and convenient. I have a 350cc Peazy I use with my leishy Classic and I get a ton of 200 bar fills.

Large compressor- best way to fill a scba or mini bottle but obviously inconvenient to haul

GX Cs4 /Omega Trail Charger- best all around compressor to fill directly or fill scba tanks. They’re liquid cooled. I have the Omega.

If I could do this again it would just be a CS4, el2, 100ci buddy bottle and a peazy

 

[FL22]

So just like anything there’s a tool for every job and your
In this rabbit hole pretty deep and it’s dark down here.

I’m starting to feel the darkness, seems more like a bottomless cavern. At least it’s filled with air and not water . well I guess you would be OK Mike you got your scuba tank.

 

[Hateful McNasty]

Hmmmmm.. a springer it's just cock , load ,shoot repeat all day under any scenario. No need for all that hassle, cost and extra equipment just to shoot a pellet ..

 

[FL22]

Well, since the gauntlets been thrown, I’ll bite Springers? Yeah, I need to get me one of those critters before they go extinct

I’m just kidding, I have me eye on one.

 

[Starling Stalker]

Well, since the gauntlets been thrown, I’ll bite Springers? Yeah, I need to get me one of those critters before they go extinct

I’m just kidding, I have me eye on one.

Now don’t be bashing the springers. I have many pcp guns but there is something gratifying about the simplicity of a good springer.

 

[PasadenaMike]

Nothing against boingers in shoot a tx but there’s nothing like a clean headshot without effort.

 

[Starling Stalker]

I have gone off topic. Sorry. I believe all airguns have their place and specific use. I like them all.

 

[Hateful McNasty]

Well, since the gauntlets been thrown, I’ll bite Springers? Yeah, I need to get me one of those critters before they go extinct

I’m just kidding, I have me eye on one.

Never happen with pcp around . I've not fell for it.. pcp's a gimmick money pit and see ya coming a mile away .... Just can't see it here .. heck I don't even need a optic to shoot too boot.. PCP most all it's filling money ( undependable ,$$, or backache) then some optic to sight .
I mean wow.. just to shoot a pellet once.

A good springer .. the gun cost and pellets shoot right out of the box .. I just yet to see the benefit for cost and use in a pcp.. that's all .. not trying to say it's bad for anyone else in there opinions .. we all got our thing and thinking ...

I'd like a nice pcp , there's Gund that I had interest in, but as soon as I get to it's crazy support just to shoot it is when it goes sour and no sale ...lol

 

[Hateful McNasty]

Nothing against boingers in shoot a tx but there’s nothing like a clean headshot without effort.

No effort , having to fill somehow is no effort . I guess I'd be still shooting wile your filling ? What effort is a cock ? Lol

Then the compressor burns up and you on hand pump or no more shooting ?

I don't know .. just don't see it ..

 

[FL22]

I have gone off topic. Sorry. I believe all airguns have their place and specific use. I like them all.

I don’t think anybody has gone off topic we’re talking about filling pellet rifles. It just so happens that @Hateful McNasty ’s pellet rifle is filled with a spring lol and he makes a valid point. As far as topics go, as long as we’re talking about pellet rifles, it should be all fair game. It’s a conversation after all and they usually take twist and turns. just my opinion.

 

[Starling Stalker]

As long as a gun is accurate I don’t care what powers it. Just like to shoot.

 

[Dogowski]

I only don't shoot springers anymore due to a severe back injury years ago. Then fully went down the PCP rabbit hole and haven't looked back since. I have 3 fill sources all 110v or 12 volt units. If one breaks I've got a backup ready to go with no down time as long as I'm home when it happens. I have the 18 volt dual battery powered GX portable compressor which is getting tired after a year and a half of service so Air Shootist recommended highly the Orcair Thunder compressor which I am truly blown away by it's speed of filling and quietness as it's cooling fans only run when needed and it will fill larger bottles taking breaks after 30 minutes fills at a time so I absolutely love it so it's my main use compressor now. 3rd compressor is a Yong Heng air cooled unit as a backup in case one of these quits. Yes I'm an airgun addict and must be prepared at all times and I approve this confession of my airgun fanaticism and readiness! Lol

 

[Danman]

The real truth is once you get a sweet filling air source you think....hmmm?? I should probably get another pcp to "validate" my purchase/set up . I love my 2 springers as well 5 & 15 ft/lbs in .177 but being an air addict I don't own firearms so sometimes I need MO power! Enter pcps and all their vast benefits. As far as the work goes it the same. My pcps I shoot till I'm off reg than it's over. Then at night or whenever I will set gun down and pump her back up. Shooting is 100% focused on groups, getting a chrono reading maybe or two, no work involved. Springers are a slower process on the bench with all the work getting done while you shoot. I like the spare bottle idea Mike if it's a bottle gun or maybe down the road (if I can't control the addiction ) I will "spring" for a decent compressor and even get a buddy size tank.

 

[pan60]

Never happen with pcp around . I've not fell for it.. pcp's a gimmick money pit and see ya coming a mile away .... Just can't see it here .. heck I don't even need a optic to shoot too boot.. PCP most all it's filling money ( undependable ,$$, or backache) then some optic to sight .
I mean wow.. just to shoot a pellet once.

A good springer .. the gun cost and pellets shoot right out of the box .. I just yet to see the benefit for cost and use in a pcp.. that's all .. not trying to say it's bad for anyone else in there opinions .. we all got our thing and thinking ...

I'd like a nice pcp , there's Gund that I had interest in, but as soon as I get to it's crazy support just to shoot it is when it goes sour and no sale ...lol

i love my bump guns hate springers everyone i ever had was only acurate up close maybe 5 or 10 feet away? my dinana weighs a ton and at 20 yards you be lucky to hit a bucket and i have had a few. got rid of all my break barrels and got a PCP best thing i ever did. i save got the alken and a couple nice guns and we enjoy shoot.
and with my pcp o can hit a squirrel even if the bugger is out there. i dot their eye and they die.
me and a buddy where popping marble size acorns he other day at 40 yards easy. with my break barrles i would be in fear of hitting the 4'x4' back drop.


LOL

oh did i say i dont like springers? if i dint i will. i dont like springers : )

but i am glad someone does : )

 

[Danman]

i love my bump guns hate springers everyone i ever had was only acurate up close maybe 5 or 10 feet away? my dinana weighs a ton and at 20 yards you be lucky to hit a bucket and i have had a few. got rid of all my break barrels and got a PCP best thing i ever did. i save got the alken and a couple nice guns and we enjoy shoot.
and with my pcp o can hit a squirrel even if the bugger is out there. i dot their eye and they die.
me and a buddy where popping marble size acorns he other day at 40 yards easy. with my break barrles i would be in fear of hitting the 4'x4' back drop.


LOL

oh did i say i dont like springers? if i dint i will. i dont like springers : )

but i am glad someone does : )

Yeah that's a benefit as well for sure! Shooting pests past 40 yards and dumping them was unheard of before with my old springer. It was accurate inside of 25 yards though. Maybe u never mastered 'the hold' My TX is deadly to 40 yards without a doubt.

 

[pan60]

Yeah that's a benefit as well for sure! Shooting pests past 40 yards and dumping them was unheard of before with my old springer. It was accurate inside of 25 yards though. Maybe u never mastered 'the hold' My TX is deadly to 40 yards without a doubt.

well i was exagurating a bit to get a point across : )

 

[Hateful McNasty]

i love my bump guns hate springers everyone i ever had was only acurate up close maybe 5 or 10 feet away? my dinana weighs a ton and at 20 yards you be lucky to hit a bucket and i have had a few. got rid of all my break barrels and got a PCP best thing i ever did. i save got the alken and a couple nice guns and we enjoy shoot.
and with my pcp o can hit a squirrel even if the bugger is out there. i dot their eye and they die.
me and a buddy where popping marble size acorns he other day at 40 yards easy. with my break barrles i would be in fear of hitting the 4'x4' back drop.


LOL

oh did i say i dont like springers? if i dint i will. i dont like springers : )

but i am glad someone does : )

15 or 20 feet... LoL.. that's cold ..lol

Yeah that's a benefit as well for sure! Shooting pests past 40 yards and dumping them was unheard of before with my old springer. It was accurate inside of 25 yards though. Maybe u never mastered 'the hold' My TX is deadly to 40 yards without a doubt.

I took squirrel at 90y with the .177r9 . Just once by accident. I was aiming for it's tail and when I shot it turned around and the pellets hit it in the head. I was like you got to be kidding .. Ruff did not mind and was quick to fetching it up ..

Ya, 50y is my fav 75 is good too a 100 got to be a good windless day but pretty doable .. (.177) .22 is a bit easier . Black painted crosman tins I use at 100y irons (3")

Probly average 100y. Lite wind

I'd probably need to use 3" bulls today them hw 95/R9 do a good job and a complete gun . I just don't see ever getting a different .177

I'm sure a PCP if it had sights of decent build quality and heavy pellets or slugs could do bette , but they don't make that lol.

 

[PasadenaMike]

It’s all good everyone likes different things and have a valid reason to. We’re all still on topic. As long as you’re sending it, it don’t matter how.

 

[Luis Leon]

Hmmmmm.. a springer it's just cock , load ,shoot repeat all day under any scenario. No need for all that hassle, cost and extra equipment just to shoot a pellet ..

That PCPs require HPA is not a “hassle”… “Just to shoot a pellet”? Depends on what your sending that pellet at… There’s no need to shoehorn your approach on everyone, Mr. Hateful… You need that HPA to expel the projectile … Enjoy your springers… For me, the cock, load pellet and shoot, one shot guns are simply not fun. They used to be, but now I simply don’t consider them.

 

[pan60]

15 or 20 feet... LoL.. that's cold ..lol


I took squirrel at 90y with the .177r9 . Just once by accident. I was aiming for it's tail and when I shot it turned around and the pellets hit it in the head. I was like you got to be kidding .. Ruff did not mind and was quick to fetching it up ..

Ya, 50y is my fav 75 is good too a 100 got to be a good windless day but pretty doable .. (.177) .22 is a bit easier . Black painted crosman tins I use at 100y irons (3")

Probly average 100y. Lite wind
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I'd probably need to use 3" bulls today them hw 95/R9 do a good job and a complete gun . I just don't see ever getting a different .177

I'm sure a PCP if it had sights of decent build quality and heavy pellets or slugs could do bette , but they don't make that lol.

i hope youu know i am just poking a bt for the fun of it : )
but i really am glad i finaly got into pcp my wife even comented how nice it was not to have to be pumping my ols pump guns and i was glad as i pump the guns for me and for her : )