Others TalonP Carbine, Better Late than Never!

[Chief 10-Beers]

Hmm. I don't see it. Why would the tank need to be removed?

 

[Sean]

Hmm. I don't see it. Why would the tank need to be removed?

If was easier for me. To each their own. Plus wanted to just 'cause. I posted how I did it in another thread. Wicked easy. Don't have to fiddle with dowels pushing the hammer breech thingy if you just spin the tank off and take the hammet out! Like I said before, do it however ya want!

 

[Sean]

If was easier for me. To each their own. Plus wanted to just 'cause. I posted how I did it in another thread. Wicked easy. Don't have to fiddle with dowels pushing the hammer breech thingy if you just spin the tank off and take the hammet out! Like I said before, do it however ya want!

I think that is what the instructions post said to do? I can't remember.

 

[Pumacarl]

I decided not to through bolt but to put a U channel cut out to hold the pins and secured by the screw behind the hand guard( which will now be longer) and the hand guard will be gone because I am mounting a Picatinny rail under the shroud all the way from the suppressor with an over hanging portion that is going to secure the U channel that will be holding in the now standard straight .125" pins. On this overhang, that comes back to within an 1.5" of the trigger guard, I am going to mount an Arca Swiss plate. I might router out the fore grip to slide onto the pic rail with the suppressor off. I have to look into the options for that more. It's the start of a plan anyway.

 

[Sean]

I decided not to through bolt but to put a U channel cut out to hold the pins and secured by the screw behind the hand guard( which will now be longer) and the hand guard will be gone because I am mounting a Picatinny rail under the shroud all the way from the suppressor with an over hanging portion that is going to secure the U channel that will be holding in the now standard straight .125" pins. On this overhang, that comes back to within an 1.5" of the trigger guard, I am going to mount an Arca Swiss plate. I might router out the fore grip to slide onto the pic rail with the suppressor off. I have to look into the options for that more. It's the start of a plan anyway.

I can kinda see what you're doing there.

 

[Rwjeter]

Eureka! Found it ! Try this! It may help.

How to decock the Condor SS—- – Page 2 – Talonairgun

talonairgunforum.com

Mwahahaha!!!!! Goodbye vile thing!

 

[Franklink]

That one the list of must-dos for mine as well.

Can't stand not being able to decock. The only thing worse than not being able to decock is an automatic safety....and the AF line does both!!!! (At least until fixed).

 

[Rwjeter]

That one the list of must-dos for mine as well.

Can't stand not being able to decock. The only thing worse than not being able to decock is an automatic safety....and the AF line does both!!!! (At least until fixed).

Super easy. A hex key, a punch, a dowel, something heavy to smack the punch, your AF tank wrench and like 5 minutes. I grabbed my Fix it sticks, sat in the floor and did it while watching Captain Underpants. lol.

 

[Pumacarl]

The setup that I was trying to make utilizing different rail adapters isn't going to work out, not enough height.

I am contemplating a Dr. Frankenstein makeover for this thing at this point. It is probably not the best time to make any decisions on this gun because I am still extremely p.o.ed with myself for missing a woodchuck with it last Friday. There wasn't an excuse either, 50y, rested, and missed. I shot at a 75y target right after, and hit every time. Luckily I missed completely, I saw him today.

Still, it is a real confidence shaker to miss such an easy shot, especially when everything seemed right. I had no bad feelings about the shot at all, everything seemed good, sight picture, placement, breathing, trigger control, and still missed. I saw where the pellet hit and took the moss off the rock, right where he was laying. That must have smarted some, but if it cut him I didn't see any blood. That pellet hit a full 2" low out of a gun that was shooting nickel sized groups at that range a few days earlier, and shot well afterwards, which most likely means it was me. Missing occasionally is nothing new and everytime there is usually an obvious reason, this time there wasn't, and that's the worst part. Was it a bad pellet? Was the bolt all the way back? I really wish that secured better. And of course, was it just me? The most intrusive thought though was, would this have happened if I had been using my Mrod or Paradigm, and my gut says no. I have to get this things form finalized and get comfortable shooting it, before I shoot at anything else with it.

 

[Pumacarl]

Well, now I feel that I owe my TalonP a public apology, and feel the need for a mea culpa on the events that transpired last Friday, leading to the miss of one of the easiest shots ever.

My TalonP shot exactly where I aimed it. Damn, that little gun is accurate!

Me, I'm not so accurate. I made assumptions, that were clearly wrong.

I had assumed that I knew the range to target and I was off by 17y, which in this case equaled 2.4" off, low. Exactly where I hit.

So, totally my fault. I like knowing that I was wrong, and stupid for assuming I knew the distance, more, than not knowing what went wrong at all. Maybe someday I'll practice what I preach and always bring my rangefinder with me. This goes a long way to restoring my trust of the gun, and my mistrust of my own abilities at ranging.

 

[CTAirgunner]

Sometimes figuring out it was you who was the culprit and not the equipment takes a huge load of stress off, actually I would say more often than not. No more figuring it out, no more wondering what you need to change.

 

[Chief 10-Beers]

In My case I often find that it's the Loose Nut behind the trigger's fault. lol

 

[PapaT]

In My case I often find that it's the Loose Nut behind the trigger's fault. lol

Glad I'm not the only one who often finds this to be the case.

 

[Pumacarl]

I took the foregrip off, put on a full picatinny rail, and put on the KAG grip. I like the KAG, it's handy, and stays out of the way. Not staying like this for long, still have other parts coming.

 

[Pumacarl]

I shot most of my pcp's yesterday, and of the pellet shooters, I would have to say that I was most impressed with the TalonP. It was windy, I don't shoot enough in the wind, and it really showed up in slinging pellets. I was using my tripod, so I was stable, but the wind was switching up so fast there really was no telling what was going to happen from shot to shot. It certainly wasn't boring, mostly frustrating. I just love the first shot hits though. I really don't give a rat's behind about the following shots, or shooting groups. The first shot from a sitting gun means everything to me. This TalonP has first shots down cold. For only having a 3x scope, it keeps up. I was shooting at 99.5y at a new reaction target I got, did the Strelok check and bang, dead nuts!

I might have to start trying slugs in it though. Maybe I just shoot too many different guns now. I'm not really getting or maintaining proficiency enough with each of them. I don't know, but I do know that shooting slugs more and more often lately has me really sour when I go back to pellets. At least the .25 MKII's have a decent bc for a pellet. With my .22's the 18gr .22 JSB were really all over the place today compared to the KO slugs. I might spend some time trying to find a slug for it after I finish working on it. Windy days really drive the point home. I didn't really plan to shoot this little gun at a 100y but it's plenty accurate enough and powerful enough so why not? Less wind drift is always better.

 

[Chief55]

My argument for .25s. They are my favorite. Buck the wind and hit hard.

 

[Franklink]

First shot accuracy = one of the pros of unregulated.

 

[Pumacarl]

I have been working on the TalonP again and I think the hard part is done. Finally figured out a really good way to do everything that I wanted to do. I cut out out all the holes that I needed to, in hefty chunk of aluminum u-channel, that I had to order from McMaster-Carr. I couldn't find any locally, or even on Amazon, that was a good deal. Even with expensive shipping, just buying a foot of the stuff from M-C was the best I could do, and it was over $20. Have to pay to play I guess.

I basically ensconced the entire trigger area in an extra 1/8" layer of 6061, and it will all be held down the exact same way that the gun used originally, the screw at the front and the rear handgrip screw. I still need to go to the hardware store for longer replacement screws, but everything is fitted. The u-channel perfectly holds in all the new pins I put in to replace the factory ones. I still have yet to receive my final picatinny rail, which I will cut to fit the top dovetail rail. It will be full picatinny at that point. And then I can finally paint it. I will post some pictures after I get the screws to hold everything in place. I'm really looking forward to being done, this project has really been dragging along.

 

[Pumacarl]

I was originally was going to use the size on the right, but, then I thought, no I'm going big.


Going big created quite a few problems with the added height, but solved some too. I shouldn't have done the cut outs right above where I needed them, but should have figured for where they'd end up. The grip was a p.i.t.a. until I figured that out. On the other hand, the thick stock allowed me to put a screw underneath the picatinny mount to secure one side, handy! I absolutely love the look of the breech now and I think the grip looks more at home on this width of stock too.


That looks really cool, I almost don't want to paint it. Nahh

One more part to go, then paint!

EDIT: Here is the info on the u-channel I used: McMaster-Carr

 

[Pumacarl]

I also put in the lighter trigger pull spring, that I had gotten from Talon Tunes, and WOW, did that make a difference! The take up is still a little long for me, but the weight and break are quite nice.