Maintenance New .22 Mag Problem

[mr007s]

UPS delivered my Evol this morning. Did not start the day off right. When I inserted the mag in the breech the detent ball and spring jumped out of the hole. Luckily I found both pieces but something will have to be done before it will stay in, and I may never trust it. Anyone here have a fix for my new problem? I have a single shot tray and 2 mags coming from carm but would like the EVOL mag to work also.
Thanks for any info you can share

 

[Bladebum]

Yes, send the mag back wherever you got the gun from and have them send you a new one.

 

[Bladebum]

Although not ideal, the Evol can be single loaded without a single shot tray. So you can still shoot your gun while you wait on replacement and new carm mags.

 

[Pnwairgunner]

I prefer my CARM mags to the factory mags for my Evol at this point. Actually haven’t even used the factory mags again since my CARM mags arrived. I wish there was a way to adapt the Uragan mags to the Evol. I’ve never had an issue with my AGT mags and they are dead simple to load. To me they are the most well designed magazines out there. Super simple and tough.

 

[mr007s]

I prefer my CARM mags to the factory mags for my Evol at this point. Actually haven’t even used the factory mags again since my CARM mags arrived. I wish there was a way to adapt the Uragan mags to the Evol. I’ve never had an issue with my AGT mags and they are dead simple to load. To me they are the most well designed magazines out there. Super simple and tough.

Are those the ones that are hinged and the cover swings open? If they are I like that design very much.

 

[mr007s]

Although not ideal, the Evol can be single loaded without a single shot tray. So you can still shoot your gun while you wait on replacement and new carm mags.

No hurry to shoot with the weather 14 degrees. I have the scope mounted and checked screw tightness, cleaned barrell and checked things out. I will wait for a nice day where I can sight in, shoot thru the chrony and check different weight and brands of ammo without freezing my "boys" off.

 

[Peskådot671]

Those CARM mags are good for pellets. Slugs, not so much. I had feeding issues with my CARM mags in .22 and .30 when using slugs. In the .30 version, it jammed so bad and the mag got stuck in the breech disforming the slug. They load from the rear. There's no need to load the first pellet skirt first in the front of the mag and subsequent ones head first at the rear like the factory mags.

 

[Woogie_man]

With the carm mag I don't shoot slugs, as the slugs will typically fall back into the rifle.

Honestly didn't know the ball detent could fall out. Any pictures? Curious if there is any damage around the area

 

[Airgun-hobbyist]

UPS delivered my Evol this morning. Did not start the day off right. When I inserted the mag in the breech the detent ball and spring jumped out of the hole. Luckily I found both pieces but something will have to be done before it will stay in, and I may never trust it. Anyone here have a fix for my new problem? I have a single shot tray and 2 mags coming from carm but would like the EVOL mag to work also.
Thanks for any info you can share

That sucks to get an odd issue like that right out of the gate. The detent ball and spring are installed with the aluminum housing pressed around them to hold them in place. It will likely would be a one-off issue, and the company you purchased from will likely rush you out another magazine while that one is returned.

 

[mr007s]

With the carm mag I don't shoot slugs, as the slugs will typically fall back into the rifle.

Honestly didn't know the ball detent could fall out. Any pictures? Curious if there is any damage around the area

Have not had any fall out of the 30 cal mag. I did not see anything that looked damaged. Didnt think pitchers would be of any help.

 

[mr007s]

That sucks to get an odd issue like that right out of the gate. The detent ball and spring are installed with the aluminum housing pressed around them to hold them in place. It will likely would be a one-off issue, and the company you purchased from will likely rush you out another magazine while that one is returned.

It was AOA so I am sure all will be taken care of. I will give them a call tomorrow.

 

[Pumacarl]

I will 4th the comment that CARM mags are great(better) for pellets but are are lousy to useless for slugs. Send your factory mag back for a new one for sure; you will need it for slugs. I have a single shot tray for my .30 and I am not impressed with how it works, and I only have normal sized hands, not humongous mits.

 

[Peskådot671]

When the new Evol with all the upgrades comes out in the 15" .22 barrel version, I will be placing an order with AoA. I will request that they test it with the factory mag that comes with it before they send it out. I hate having to go to the Post Office to send things out for returns.

 

[mr007s]

I know what you mean my friend

 

[Peskådot671]

To answer your question on a fix, you'll have to disassemble the mag to get the spring and ball bearing back in. If you remove the back plate, the main spring that rotates the mag will become dislodged. You'll have to reposition the main spring so it indexes properly. The only thing I'm wondering is how the ball bearing and spring came out. The screw that secures the back plate had to have been really loose.

 

[Airgun-hobbyist]

To answer your question on a fix, you'll have to disassemble the mag to get the spring and ball bearing back in. If you remove the back plate, the main spring that rotates the mag will become dislodged. You'll have to reposition the main spring so it indexes properly. The only thing I'm wondering is how the ball bearing and spring came out. The screw that secures the back plate had to have been really loose.

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I'm pretty sure that he is referring to the small detent ball in the center of the magazine, that holds the magazine in place inside of the gun's magazine well.

 

[mr007s]

To answer your question on a fix, you'll have to disassemble the mag to get the spring and ball bearing back in. If you remove the back plate, the main spring that rotates the mag will become dislodged. You'll have to reposition the main spring so it indexes properly. The only thing I'm wondering is how the ball bearing and spring came out. The screw that secures the back plate had to have been really loose.

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The screw is tight.

 

[Peskådot671]

The screw is tight.

So are you referring to this ball bearing like Airgun-hobbyist implied? If so, my bad. I believe that ball bearing is press-fitted in.

 

[mr007s]

This is the one that came out

 

[pan60]

sorry to hear: (
i have ot tried the carm magazine but i have had no issues with the magazines i have. i have two news ons and two ised one all work well.
i will say i thnk the BRK mag design is one like like much better would not hurt my feeling if the design was to change? but no complaints as is.
hopfully you have your replacement by the time the weather gets nice.