Hand Pump. I’m going to need a new one, Advice?

[EdinGa]

I've been hand pumping for over 20 years. I've owned several pumps and my latest is an Air Venturi Hill mk4 or 5. I can never remember. I've been using it for the last 4 years and I've only replaced one o-ring.

Like you, I do it for the exercise and my reward is shooting. That works for me.

 

[Pumacarl]

PasadenaMike, unfortunately, all of these forums leave a lot to be desired for search functions. I have mentioned about vertical fill whip filling, and leaving pressure in the hand pump, a couple of times a year, at AGN and GTA, and now here, but nobody, myself included, go back too far when searching, so everything gets repeated endlessly. It does get boring to repost the same info over and over. Sticky, I guess.
[edited to reflect I was talking about hand pump procedure and not the search function]

 

[Danman]

Good idea on keeping the gun up and on an angle so moisture has trouble going up, will try that! Yeah o-rings are o-rings and all of them will eventually blow for sure, no matter the brand. Ultimate question to me is: Is the mk5 (or other higher quality model) actually pump FASTER/LESS EFFORT. I do keep my hand pump pressurized as well just 100psi or so. Buy a best fitting plug to cap line. Desiccant filter is included with pump I would not go without! I do not ever hand pump outside and I believe it helps but isn't a perfect solution. I've stripped the pump down and never had water in it yet. Can't speak to the gun though....

 

[EdinGa]

Good idea on keeping the gun up and on an angle so moisture has trouble going up, will try that! Yeah o-rings are o-rings and all of them will eventually blow for sure, no matter the brand. Ultimate question to me is: Is the mk5 (or other higher quality model) actually pump FASTER/LESS EFFORT. I do keep my hand pump pressurized as well just 100psi or so. Buy a best fitting plug to cap line. Desiccant filter is included with pump I would not go without! I do not ever hand pump outside and I believe it helps but isn't a perfect solution. I've stripped the pump down and never had water in it yet. Can't speak to the gun though....

The Hill I have requires less effort than any other pump I've ever owned.

 

[Pumacarl]

If I wanted to hedge all of my bets, and I was younger, I would get the Huben hand pump. I believe that is probably the best one going.

 

[FL22]

PasadenaMike, unfortunately, all of these forums leave a lot to be desired for search functions. I have mentioned this a couple of times a year at AGN and GTA and now here, but nobody, myself included, go back too far when searching, so everything gets repeated endlessly. It does get boring to repost the same info over and over. Sticky, I guess.

I did make several attempts at an Internet search and came up with very little info even searched on pyramid air in the reviews most everything seem to be spotty and people just complaining. I’m more than happy to listen to concise criticism, but I don’t care for whining. I don’t participate on any other forum of any kind whatsoever. I did do a search on HAM for reviews of particular pumps, but I couldn’t find any. It was more of an introduction to PCP, so how are you going to fill it? you may need one type thing with basic do’s and don’t.

 

[FL22]

If I wanted to hedge all of my bets, and I was younger, I would get the Huben hand pump. I believe that is probably the best one going.

I’m going to look it up.

 

[Pumacarl]

Huben Hand Pump 5000psi

Huben 5000psi 350bar Hand Pump with Fill Probe

www.newenglandairguns.com

 

[hameditor]

PasadenaMike, unfortunately, all of these forums leave a lot to be desired for search functions. I have mentioned this a couple of times a year at AGN and GTA and now here, but nobody, myself included, go back too far when searching, so everything gets repeated endlessly. It does get boring to repost the same info over and over. Sticky, I guess.

@Pumacarl. I don't want to de-rail the discussion here. But I will start a separate post in the general discussion category about search capabilities. Thanks for mentioning!

 

[FL22]

Huben Hand Pump 5000psi

Huben 5000psi 350bar Hand Pump with Fill Probe

www.newenglandairguns.com

I like what I’m seeing so far. Thanks

 

[Hateful McNasty]

Seems I read forums on guys had high end hill type and then impressed with the $50+/- amazons like why buy the 100+$ ones overall said and done ..

Then I guess is spending on a $$ hill so to say your not far off from a box type ac/DC compressor

 

[Miles_M]

Be careful what you get with a cheap compressor.

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I am sure there are good ones out there, but there are also ones like this.

 

[two4spooky]

So when I got started using my first PCP an Origin .22 with the included hand pump that was about a year and half ago, since then I’ve had to rebuild it and eventually replace it. No complaints, especially with how much I used it. The replacement was/is identical (Umarex gave it to me for free).
The situation is now that I also I have an air hungry SAM (well a seemingly incurable itch in my trigger finger) I don’t think this pump is long for the world.
I’m sure some of you or most would say get a compressor or bottle, I don’t want one. Anyway, what hand pumps are worth considering?

For what it is worth I have: 1) Hiram@~$50, 2) Four Uncles@~$60 and 3) GX ? (3.5 stage)@~$120. All work fine. The Four Uncles is probably the best bang for the buck, a little better finished/machined than the Hiram. The GX is noticeably easier to pump at higher pressure and is well finished. I started with these three bought in that order. Still use them occasionally to top off with. Using tank and compressor now though. HTH
***Edit to add: If I were filling to more than 200BAR I would prefer a pump with more than 3 stages of compression, like a 3.5 or 4 stage.

 

[Mike Brown]

Bought my first pcp about 4 years ago from PA but went the cheap route for a pump from Amazon. Got a cheap hand pump for less than $50 but soon discovered it was more of a workout than I had bargained for. Managed it for the first year and a half or so but being over 70 and not in great shape, I finally bought a cheap Vevor shoe box size pump for less than some of the name brand hand pumps. So far, so good....don't know how long it will last but I try to keep it free of water and don't let it get hot.