Hand Pump. I’m going to need a new one, Advice?

[FL22]

So when I got started using my first PCP an Origin .22 with the included hand pump that was about a year and half ago, since then I’ve had to rebuild it and eventually replace it. No complaints, especially with how much I used it. The replacement was/is identical (Umarex gave it to me for free).
The situation is now that I also I have an air hungry SAM (well a seemingly incurable itch in my trigger finger) I don’t think this pump is long for the world.
I’m sure some of you or most would say get a compressor or bottle, I don’t want one. Anyway, what hand pumps are worth considering?

 

[PasadenaMike]

So if you must and you’re a glutton for punishment get a cheap pump on Amazon. Throw it away when it fails. Buy another. They’re all made in the same factory in China. Hand pumping is a form of punishment in my house all jokes aside that’s how I started. If I could do it over I’d just get cheap ones maybe 2 and just use them and toss them.

 

[Pumacarl]

^ Not a bad idea at all if you insist on pumping. I have gotten them on sale for as little as $21 at xmas time.

 

[Pumacarl]

This topic has happened a lot on the other forums. Everyone means well, and are absolutely right to their own logic points. Just as you are right to not want a bottle or compressor for what you know of them. My own experience with not taking other peoples advice, is that what I thought I knew or wanted was based on an uniformed opinion, and I wish I had been more receptive to the idea that I was, in fact, wrong. I am no kid, and that probably made it harder to admit, but I also should have known better. With the exception of Nomadic Pirate on AGN or GTA, I don't know of any member that wasn't happy with getting away from a hand pump, that liked to shoot alot. You are shooting semi now, think about it, are you really sure that you want to do all that pumping? Good for you, if you have that conviction.

 

[Luis Leon]

Having a few hand pumpable PCPs isn’t a bad thing… 45-50 strokes nicely, fully, power up my little Atomics… Then its arse kicking time on small pests… Do agree that if you are doing high volume shooting or plinking? There are better options.

 

[PasadenaMike]

I was keeping a hand pump in the van for backup. I decided I’d rather run out of air then hand pump in the field lol. GX el2 18
Volt compressor or a buddy bottle for me works. You’ll get sick of pumping a semi.

 

[FL22]

This topic has happened a lot on the other forums. Everyone means well, and are absolutely right to their own logic points. Just as you are right to not want a bottle or compressor for what you know of them. My own experience with not taking other peoples advice, is that what I thought I knew or wanted was based on an uniformed opinion, and I wish I had been more receptive to the idea that I was, in fact, wrong. I am no kid, and that probably made it harder to admit, but I also should have known better. With the exception of Nomadic Pirate on AGN or GTA, I don't know of any member that wasn't happy with getting away from a hand pump, that liked to shoot alot. You are shooting semi now, think about it, are you really sure that you want to do all that pumping? Good for you, if you have that conviction.

I understand where you’re coming from, I’m not saying that I would never consider a compressor or bottle in the future. Personally I think that they are awesome, however at this time in my life I’m choosing to hand pump. I need the exercise. So if my hobby can help then I’m all about it.

 

[PasadenaMike]

I understand where you’re coming from, I’m not saying that I would never consider a compressor or bottle in the future. Personally I think that they are awesome, however at this time in my life I’m choosing to hand pump. I need the exercise. So if my hobby can help then I’m all about it.

Valid point. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.

 

[FL22]

Having a few hand pumpable PCPs isn’t a bad thing… 45-50 strokes nicely, fully, power up my little Atomics… Then its arse kicking time on small pests… Do agree that if you are doing high volume shooting or plinking? There are better options.

So far 65+/- strokes for the SAM to bring it from 2k to 2.9k. But that first fill…WOW that was something.

 

[Pumacarl]

Excellent point, and I once again made an assumption, and was wrong. I'm right on track.

 

[FL22]

Excellent point, and I once again made an assumption, and was wrong. I'm right on track.

It’s all good.

 

[FL22]

On a side note does the electronic word nanny give everyone else a hard time? Starting to feel like I’m on a no fly list. Can’t reply to Luis Leon.

 

[Danman]

Hey good question FL22! I am in same boat as you good sir, as are some others on this forum. This topic def has been around a bit but its relevant, I am handpumping for now as well. I went out last year and bought the BEST hand pump money could get as per reviews and cost. Literally The Hill MK5. Best volume per stroke, least effort, great company, decent warranty....it lasted 3 months and blew the hose, hose gasket, and the o-rings twice. Filled up my 288cc tank weekly and only went to 250 bar. Always took a break in-between and only pumped for 5 mins at a time. So I got a better and longer hose made up and sized the o-rings locally. HUGE pain but I'd do it again. It has good internals and I can probably rebuild it a hundred times. My suggestion would go (for now) get a good pump and a cheap compressor and go back and forth, if set on a compressor. Use pump as needed and compressor when u shooting alot. Skip the tank for now, unless your at the range alot? It still blows my mind you can buy a 'bicycle pump' and fill a small tank to a few thousand psi by hand!!

 

[Farmplinker2]

Amazon cheapie, throw away and replace. Got it.

 

[Florida_Man]

I'm in Floirda where the humidity is always present. I got back into the hobby after years away with a Hatsan Flashpup and hand pump. I had a rodent problem I needed to address. Since then I have jumped fully in.
I did a lot of modifications to my Flashpup and had it apart often. Every time I opened it I saw moisture in the air cylinder. I always pumped inside my air conditioned house. I didn't like that at all so I bought a tank, filters, and yong heng. No more issues. I still keep a hand pump as an absolute last ditch option.
Just my cautionary tale to people that might be in environments like mine.
If you are going to hand pump try some type of filter and routinely inspect the inside of your gun.

 

[Miles_M]

I have always used a Hills pump. I bought it years ago and it still works. Spare parts are also available. I don't know if they are available in the USA. They cost a lot more, but they are reliable and work well.

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[FL22]

I'm in Floirda where the humidity is always present. I got back into the hobby after years away with a Hatsan Flashpup and hand pump. I had a rodent problem I needed to address. Since then I have jumped fully in.
I did a lot of modifications to my Flashpup and had it apart often. Every time I opened it I saw moisture in the air cylinder. I always pumped inside my air conditioned house. I didn't like that at all so I bought a tank, filters, and yong heng. No more issues. I still keep a hand pump as an absolute last ditch option.
Just my cautionary tale to people that might be in environments like mine.
If you are going to hand pump try some type of filter and routinely inspect the inside of your gun.

My hand pump spits out moisture from the hose and relief valve. When I’m pumping up the rifles, I lay them on a towel that is folded up to create an incline so that as little of the moisture will get inside the rifle as possible when I unscrew the relief of valve I picked the rifle up, tilt the air pump towards the valve and release it. I definitely need to get a filter though. I want to do that with the new pump.

 

[FL22]

I have always used a Hills pump. I bought it years ago and it still works. Spare parts are also available. I don't know if they are available in the USA. They cost a lot more, but they are reliable and work well.

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AoA sells it. I think PA sells an Air Venturi hand pump that is made by hill.

 

[Pumacarl]

I mentioned Nomadic Pirate because he lived in HI and only handpumped, and used the cheap Amazon pumps too. He never had water in his guns, on inspection, ever. Niether have I. The thing to do is to elevate your gun so that the fill line is vertical, I usually use an ottoman. Water won't make it up the line. The pressure builds slowly, whatever water condensates stays at the bottom, there's no squirtgun action going on here. Just air, and a very small amount, is being blown by any condensate in the high pressure environment of the hose. Bleed the line with the hose still up and you will never get water from handpumping. Even in tropical Hawaii. I have seen Crosman videos where the guy has the gun flat on the floor and pumping, a recipe for disaster! And has far as the cheap pumps go, after years of ownership, and pumping my Hatsan with it where I work, I have yet to see it fail. I treat my handpumps like an airgun and always keep pressure in them, usually about 1000psi. Yes they do hold pressure. The longest I never used it was probably 3 months, still had pressure. Keep the environment out, the o-rings in place and under pressure, and don't let it get hot pumping, and even the cheap ones last. I bought 3 originally because everyone said they would fail, and I am still on number 1.

 

[PasadenaMike]

I’ve thought about the idea of keeping pressure in the pump it’s interesting it’s actually being done.