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Panthera FX Bull barrel for Panthera

Yes you are 100% correct on this finding and the math absolutely supports it.

If you look up how to calculate the max Fpe of an Airgun (theoretically) the actual volume of the barrel absolute matters. For example the .30 cal 700mm has 31(ish)cc of volume and upgrading to the 800mm takes it up to 36(ish)cc or so.

For example I have an 80cc plenum in the works for my DRS. A straight swap will only yield about a 4% increase in power over the 63cc plenum so only about 4-7fpe more at the same settings.

Likewise dropping a 800mm barrel without increasing the plenum only yields like 5% more power due to the volume of the plenum not being big enough to prevent too much pressure drop.

The math says that by swapping both at the same time I should yield 149-150fpe with the same settings. That’s an 18% gain.

I love when the real world and the theoretical world match up as cleanly as this because my experience with my other gun projects tells me these numbers are pretty spot on. If anything, they might be slightly conservative since my karma barrel swap slightly over performed the math.
Did you get your power up with the photos I sent you and the specs I used to get the 250 ft lbs out of my Panthera and Dynamic?
 
Did you get your power up with the photos I sent you and the specs I used to get the 250 ft lbs out of my Panthera and Dynamic?
I am still waiting for my Panthera MK 2 .22 700 with Bull barrel from Dealer,. It's a long story. Now I am waiting for the Fox over the Barrel mod. A little over 6 months. Bull Barrel was A major se back. The .22 was a super long wait.
 
I am still waiting for my Panthera MK 2 .22 700 with Bull barrel from Dealer,. It's a long story. Now I am waiting for the Fox over the Barrel mod. A little over 6 months. Bull Barrel was A major se back. The .22 was a super long wait.
Thought you were going to use it on your DRS? Was interested in your out come. Now that I found that I purchased 2 more of the hop up hammer springs, I was going to get to work on mine to get the 42 grainers at 900 fps + in .25
 
Thought you were going to use it on your DRS? Was interested in your out come. Now that I found that I purchased 2 more of the hop up hammer springs, I was going to get to work on mine to get the 42 grainers at 900 fps + in .25
I have a Drs as well .22 700, It to is @ Dealer, I am takiing it out of the Woodstock, putting ithe action in a CHASIS, either a ST chasis, or Deltaforce both on backorder. I am waiting for a .20 500 FX Barrel to stuff it into the Woodstock, that is to die for . It's that nice!
 
Did you get your power up with the photos I sent you and the specs I used to get the 250 ft lbs out of my Panthera and Dynamic?
Yes sir thank you! I haven’t called you back because I have barely touched the gun this week. After I shot them coyotes the first week of October LIFE(that she-devil) has been really interfering with my free time 😂😂… and when it hasn’t it’s been pouring rain and I’ve been playing with the sump pump.
 
Yes sir thank you! I haven’t called you back because I have barely touched the gun this week. After I shot them coyotes the first week of October LIFE(that she-devil) has been really interfering with my free time 😂😂… and when it hasn’t it’s been pouring rain and I’ve been playing with the sump pump.
Same here rain is stopping from playing with my toys
 
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Yes sir thank you! I haven’t called you back because I have barely touched the gun this week. After I shot them coyotes the first week of October LIFE(that she-devil) has been really interfering with my free time 😂😂… and when it hasn’t it’s been pouring rain and I’ve been playing with the sump pump.
Just put on a rain coat. I am a true diehard when it comes to hunting coyote. -0 with wind chill. I once used a torpedo heater , under my deck to hunt them. I t worked & I actually got one, even with all the noise. it was windy
 
Just put on a rain coat. I am a true diehard when it comes to hunting coyote. -0 with wind chill. I once used a torpedo heater , under my deck to hunt them. I t worked & I actually got one, even with all the noise. it was windy
Hahaha I’m with you bro! The problem with rain around here is that a lot of the soil looks like sand until it gets wet.. then it’s clay bog… here’s a pic from 2 weeks ago.

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Took us like 3 hours to dig out even with 4WD, running boards and strapped to another call to help pull.
 
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Hahaha I’m with you bro! The problem with rain around here is that a lot of the soil looks like sand until it gets wet.. then it’s clay bog… here’s a pic from 2 weeks ago.

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Took us like 3 hours to dig out even with 4WD, running boards and strapped to another call to help pull.
Just saw this sorry I was late to the party! Talk about going all out !
 
Hahaha I’m with you bro! The problem with rain around here is that a lot of the soil looks like sand until it gets wet.. then it’s clay bog… here’s a pic from 2 weeks ago.

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Took us like 3 hours to dig out even with 4WD, running boards and strapped to another call to help pull.
Now all you need is more rain to wash your truck
 
Just throwing this question out to all ? Would you rather a 34 grain .22 slug travel @ 1040 fps or a 40 grain slug @ 970? Provideing both are acurate, give or take a few FT/lbs of energy. Also not overwelming the Panthera .22 700 ? Every & all comments welcome . Thank you to all
 
Just throwing this question out to all ? Would you rather a 34 grain .22 slug travel @ 1040 fps or a 40 grain slug @ 970? Provideing both are acurate, give or take a few FT/lbs of energy. Also not overwelming the Panthera .22 700 ? Every & all comments welcome . Thank you to all
Me personally accuracy trumps all ! I don’t care what anything says if i can shoot tiny groups @ 100 yds im happy
 
Brother at my age, I don’t miss it anymore 🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂 I used love going where no one else was able to go and stay for a week or two
I hear that. I just turned 40 last month so I still like getting after it but not rough it like I used to… I have a big inflatable tent and tent stove for camping trips now and it makes life a lot more comfortable.
 
Just throwing this question out to all ? Would you rather a 34 grain .22 slug travel @ 1040 fps or a 40 grain slug @ 970? Provideing both are acurate, give or take a few FT/lbs of energy. Also not overwelming the Panthera .22 700 ? Every & all comments welcome . Thank you to all
It’s rude to answer question with another question but I think it matters to know what the application is.. basically hunting or target shooting?

Target shooting is simple: accuracy trumps all as @Solo1 has stated.

Hunting is more complicated. What is the target critter? What’s the ideal range vs the mostly likely range? Do the slugs have different designs? If one slug is more accurate how much more accurate? For example let’s assume one of the slugs is the 40gr frag slug and the other one is a standard 34gr hollow point.

If I was shooting squirrels and rabbits I would choose the 34gr. The 34gr will do less damage to the meat and fur if you want to salvage that.

If it was coyotes I would say 40gr frag no matter what, assuming accuracy is acceptable. Why? Because in .22 cal that’s the absolute best slug you can use on bigger bodied critters. I’ve seen how devastating they can be. Be warned you will get some pass through with this slug but expect 2-5 small holes as they break up like the X-punch slugs.

In other calibers you can just shoot heavier and achieve excellent results but in .22 cal you wanna make sure you’re doing as much damage as possible.
 

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