Others FX love/hate relationship??

[Dogowski]

All you frustrated folks, I don’t blame you. Who wants to have to work on their guns instead of shooting them, right? Me, I love working on them! Keeps me busy, sharpens my skill sets, and my mind stays focused.

Next time, give me an holler and send me your guns. I’ll treat them as if they were my own!

Welcome to the forum man. You're a Hamster now. For me i also like working on all my rifles. It's part of the fun in owning pcp rifles for sure!

 

[Bigragu]

Welcome to the forum man. You're a Hamster now. For me i also like working on all my rifles. It's part of the fun in owning pcp rifles for sure!

Yeah I’m usually on AGN. Decided to step out of my comfort zone ha ha

 

[mike56]

You guys and the key word is ENJOY working on your guns get a big pat on the back from me , Or some of my money, LOL,, I love shooting , Its saved my life , Not in protection , but fighting cancer ,, I got about 15 PCPs and just found out you dont have to send big money for enjoying shooting , PP700--- PP750 Now Notos,, Taught me this .
I still pull out the $$$$ guns to shoot aspirin size targets at 100-----50 yards , I just wished these guns were around 40 years ago,, 45 years ago nothing could out shoot my FWB 124 , Yes I talked Dr. Beemans ear off before spending 600 dollars on a pellet gun,
Mike

 

[Linehauler73]

All you frustrated folks, I don’t blame you. Who wants to have to work on their guns instead of shooting them, right? Me, I love working on them! Keeps me busy, sharpens my skill sets, and my mind stays focused.

Next time, give me an holler and send me your guns. I’ll treat them as if they were my own!

I will definitely keep that in mind..lol. I don’t know I really need to learn and hone my skills….get a little more patience with those cpl orings in the reg. Really other than that when speaking of the Maverick platform per se there isn’t that much to that gun. It’s just a cpl tubes and a valve.

 

[Linehauler73]

I have been on the fence about FX for long time. I do not own any and haven’t in the past. But I do think their guns are really cool and innovating, coming out with new models and pushing the envelope on styling and performance.

I just believe out of the box if your spending close to or above 2K , the gun should be great out of the box. I understand that they’re a tinker/ tuneable gun and that make them cool. But why not have it at least be set to shoot 18gr pellets out of the box at least. I understand that they’re all different models and some are different than other models, think the DRS models are probably closest out of the box to being a set it forget rifle.- compared to an Impact where it can or may need a lot of tuning to shoot good.

If I were to pull the trigger and open up the wallet, a DRS would be what I’d buy or wait for the new Leopard- Time will tell.

The more control a gun design gives the user over its performance makes it really difficult for the factory to really set each one up that well. Guess it’s a trade off. I will say it again about fx, if you toss any reliability issues aside and focus on just the shooting experience they are second to none that I’ve owned. They are awesome. My delta wolf compared to my wildcat bt in the same calibers at the same power (63 fit/lbs) is VERY noticeable. The fx is just so much smoother and nice.

 

[Woogie_man]

If you are all about riding the hype train and getting the newest and greatest..... then FX is for you. Make sure you stock up on o-rings and patients...because sooner or later you will have to tear through it to fix something. Have worked on many fx platforms that had issues right from the factory, especially on the brand-new rifles. These were typically little things, but they are still a pain for sure.

It is just about like they try and push things out to quickly. And when they are sponsoring about every major event they will typically take top places. And then you hear the "well they are winning all the events".....well when 95% of the shooters are shooting fx rifles.... it is not shocking that they are winning.

Have been helping a buddy with his Panthera and his DRS Pro. Both have had issues, but man do they shoot! You can't deny that when they do shoot... they flat out shoot!

 

[Linehauler73]

If you are all about riding the hype train and getting the newest and greatest..... then FX is for you. Make sure you stock up on o-rings and patients...because sooner or later you will have to tear through it to fix something. Have worked on many fx platforms that had issues right from the factory, especially on the brand-new rifles. These were typically little things, but they are still a pain for sure.

It is just about like they try and push things out to quickly. And when they are sponsoring about every major event they will typically take top places. And then you hear the "well they are winning all the events".....well when 95% of the shooters are shooting fx rifles.... it is not shocking that they are winning.

Have been helping a buddy with his Panthera and his DRS Pro. Both have had issues, but man do they shoot! You can't deny that when they do shoot... they flat out shoot!

Get what you are saying but the flip side is that many people are shooting them at competitions because they shoot so well. Up at that level those guys are used to tinkering a lot. Just part of the necessity of the game. However believe me I know they can be an utter PIA.

 

[Woogie_man]

A lot of the people shooting at that level are sponsored by FX....... so they have to shoot an FX gun at the event.

I have talked to most of them and have worked with some of them as well. When FX is paying your way into an event, you will have to represent the company and make them look good.

Nothing against that happening, it would just be nice if some of the newer guys would understand this and not buy into the "top gun at xxxxx match". I have shot against a bunch of the FX guys, and they are all GREAT guys for sure. So nothing against them. They are playing the game and having fun. But it is a selling tactic and a social media plan for sure.

 

[Bigragu]

A lot of the people shooting at that level are sponsored by FX....... so they have to shoot an FX gun at the event.

I have talked to most of them and have worked with some of them as well. When FX is paying your way into an event, you will have to represent the company and make them look good.

Nothing against that happening, it would just be nice if some of the newer guys would understand this and not buy into the "top gun at xxxxx match". I have shot against a bunch of the FX guys, and they are all GREAT guys for sure. So nothing against them. They are playing the game and having fun. But it is a selling tactic and a social media plan for sure.

And Mr Axxelson, the FX msn himself, is a great guy. Talk about someone with true passion and love for airguns. I’ve always wanted to meet him, and had the pleasure of doing so at the 2024 RMAC

 

[Linehauler73]

The love will probably kick in again when the leopard drops. Lol. Know I will want one. How far north of 2k do you guys suspect the bottle versions are ?

 

[bchannell]

I've had several, been pretty lucky with them. Two Impact, an X upgraded to a Mk2, and a Mk3, a Cyclone, two Royale 400s, a Crown Mk2, maybe some others.
Let's face it, there are two, "almost" imperatives when shooting pcps. One, you're going to have to learn to work on them and two, sooner or later, you will deal with a leak. It's just part of the game. Now I will admit that FX pushes development hard, adn with that there will obviously be issues.

Also, they make what people want, or they wouldn't sell and they would slow down. Second, FX likely outsells all other airguns, so someone is buying them and not complaining.

One problem is for instance, the Impact. It is a spectacular gun, but it is not a gun for the first time pcp owner, not is it for the casual shooter. It is, by design, a tinkerers gun. The Crown is only a slight bit less intimidating to new users. Are they good guns? you bet they are. My Crown usually outshoots anything I've had and easily equals the best.

Designs like the Cyclone and Royale, were stellar, simple, robust and reliable. But, there's a problem, they didn't sell well because that particular niche' in the market is well covered. There are tons of good, simple, reliable pcp rifles.

As to the Amp regs, they're pretty simple devices. The only real problem is if you let the oring inside the action go long term and it gets hard, it's a pain to remove. As long as it's soft, just stick a pin in it and work it out. I use old time hat pins, works great.

To conclude, I think FX fills a particular need in the market for airgunners who want the bleeding edge rifle, even though it may have some growing pains and need to be tinkered with. My MK2 Impact was one of the most reliable rifles I ever had, but many have trouble with them so it seems. Sometimes I wonder if tinkering didn't cause a lot of problems. Dunno?

 

[Bigragu]

I've had several, been pretty lucky with them. Two Impact, an X upgraded to a Mk2, and a Mk3, a Cyclone, two Royale 400s, a Crown Mk2, maybe some others.
Let's face it, there are two, "almost" imperatives when shooting pcps. One, you're going to have to learn to work on them and two, sooner or later, you will deal with a leak. It's just part of the game. Now I will admit that FX pushes development hard, adn with that there will obviously be issues.

Also, they make what people want, or they wouldn't sell and they would slow down. Second, FX likely outsells all other airguns, so someone is buying them and not complaining.

One problem is for instance, the Impact. It is a spectacular gun, but it is not a gun for the first time pcp owner, not is it for the casual shooter. It is, by design, a tinkerers gun. The Crown is only a slight bit less intimidating to new users. Are they good guns? you bet they are. My Crown usually outshoots anything I've had and easily equals the best.

Designs like the Cyclone and Royale, were stellar, simple, robust and reliable. But, there's a problem, they didn't sell well because that particular niche' in the market is well covered. There are tons of good, simple, reliable pcp rifles.

As to the Amp regs, they're pretty simple devices. The only real problem is if you let the oring inside the action go long term and it gets hard, it's a pain to remove. As long as it's soft, just stick a pin in it and work it out. I use old time hat pins, works great.

To conclude, I think FX fills a particular need in the market for airgunners who want the bleeding edge rifle, even though it may have some growing pains and need to be tinkered with. My MK2 Impact was one of the most reliable rifles I ever had, but many have trouble with them so it seems. Sometimes I wonder if tinkering didn't cause a lot of problems. Dunno?

Great post! Pretty much sums it up

 

[Linehauler73]

I've had several, been pretty lucky with them. Two Impact, an X upgraded to a Mk2, and a Mk3, a Cyclone, two Royale 400s, a Crown Mk2, maybe some others.
Let's face it, there are two, "almost" imperatives when shooting pcps. One, you're going to have to learn to work on them and two, sooner or later, you will deal with a leak. It's just part of the game. Now I will admit that FX pushes development hard, adn with that there will obviously be issues.

Also, they make what people want, or they wouldn't sell and they would slow down. Second, FX likely outsells all other airguns, so someone is buying them and not complaining.

One problem is for instance, the Impact. It is a spectacular gun, but it is not a gun for the first time pcp owner, not is it for the casual shooter. It is, by design, a tinkerers gun. The Crown is only a slight bit less intimidating to new users. Are they good guns? you bet they are. My Crown usually outshoots anything I've had and easily equals the best.

Designs like the Cyclone and Royale, were stellar, simple, robust and reliable. But, there's a problem, they didn't sell well because that particular niche' in the market is well covered. There are tons of good, simple, reliable pcp rifles.

As to the Amp regs, they're pretty simple devices. The only real problem is if you let the oring inside the action go long term and it gets hard, it's a pain to remove. As long as it's soft, just stick a pin in it and work it out. I use old time hat pins, works great.

To conclude, I think FX fills a particular need in the market for airgunners who want the bleeding edge rifle, even though it may have some growing pains and need to be tinkered with. My MK2 Impact was one of the most reliable rifles I ever had, but many have trouble with them so it seems. Sometimes I wonder if tinkering didn't cause a lot of problems. Dunno?

Yeah I’ve heard about the pin trick. I think the one in the bottom of the reg is way worse. Guess it’s just getting the nack of it. To get that little oring squeezed through a small hole and to pop into the larger channel it’s supposed to be in underneath without just going down into the reg body past the groove was almost enough to about make me throw it across the room. Lol. Every other maker that I’ve owned have had much easier regs to deal with.

 

[jps2486]

Yeah I’ve heard about the pin trick. I think the one in the bottom of the reg is way worse. Guess it’s just getting the nack of it. To get that little oring squeezed through a small hole and to pop into the larger channel it’s supposed to be in underneath without just going down into the reg body past the groove was almost enough to about make me throw it across the room. Lol. Every other maker that I’ve owned have had much easier regs to deal with.

I guess you never had the pleasure of replacing the chamber O ring on a .177 cal barrel.

 

[Bigragu]

The internal o ring, is a piece of cake, trust me, cause you’ll agree once you’ve had to deal with this one with (3) 4 x1.5’s inside. This one right here, one two three start the timer to check how long it would take you to R&R

 

[Linehauler73]

I guess you never had the pleasure of replacing the chamber O ring on a .177 cal barrel.

No, I don’t have any 177 but I can only imagine what is like in the cramped tiny space of a 177 barrel. Lol.

 

[BenjeneerJohn]

.177 barrels aren't that bad to do if you have a clearing/cleaning rod inserted from the muzzle end. That gives you a backer to push the o-ring against to get it to fall into the groove.

The FX internal regulator o-ring can be a pain. I found a crochet hook was a helpful tool. You could pull the o-ring down into the bore and use the back of the hook to get it into the groove.

John

 

[Danman]

.177 barrels aren't that bad to do if you have a clearing/cleaning rod inserted from the muzzle end. That gives you a backer to push the o-ring against to get it to fall into the groove.

The FX internal regulator o-ring can be a pain. I found a crochet hook was a helpful tool. You could pull the o-ring down into the bore and use the back of the hook to get it into the groove.

John

Pure wisdom. I rebuild hydraulic cylinders and holding valves at work and use the same backing trick on internal seals. It turns a horrible job into an easier one! I also have dental picks (actually from a dentist!) They charge enough $$, might as well get a bonus...we ask if they have any when getting a cleaning, they usually throw em out anyways at a certain point.

 

[Bigragu]

Pure wisdom. I rebuild hydraulic cylinders and holding valves at work and use the same backing trick on internal seals. It turns a horrible job into an easier one! I also have dental picks (actually from a dentist!) They charge enough $$, might as well get a bonus...we ask if they have any when getting a cleaning, they usually throw em out anyways at a certain point.

Be very careful when using pics msde of material other than brass or plastic. One scratch or gouge on an o ring groove and you can consider that fx trigger block toast as you’ll have a forever leak that can’t be fixed. I was actually talking to a tech from utah air guns about this matter. He said most guns that come in from complaints of air leaking out the vent hole, are found to be from scratches and gouges inside the trigger block. Same story, he says. The owner says he doesn’t know what happened or how it started . When asked if the owner worked on his gun he says they all say nope never been into the reg area. A quick check with a borescope tells all. Yup, trigger block is toast.

 

[bchannell]

Changing orings is kind of a learned art. I use hat pins and dental picks mostly. If you spear the oring with a hatpin, you can lift it and remove it or if need be slip a pick under it and get it out. For inside the reg and receiver, I use a hatpin and spear it, pull it out of the groove a bit and then work it out with the pick. It's hard to describe but if you watch a youtube vid or two, you'll see what they're doing.

I still stand by my praise for FX, I just traded for a DreamTac 25 and it just might be the best 100y shooter I've ever had. I need more time to tune it and pick a pellet, but the first effort was 1-1/4" 5 shot groups off the bedside of my truck, using a 10X Vector scope. For me,...not bad.