Alpha/Delta Wolf 4 years later - Finally have a Delta Wolf!

[Smok3y]

I sold my second Red Wolf 4 years ago to get a Delta Wolf, but wasn’t being able to get one due to short supply. I moved on to some other brands… now I finally have my Delta Wolf!

I finally found a good deal from a good dude with 22 and 177 barrels and some other accessories that was too good to pass up. I still might need a couple accessories. I see why the race riser can come in handy, to get the scope far enough forward. I don’t like the factory scope rail. I am going to need some lower rings or a cheek riser too, because I do like it fairly high. Also time to add a vertical grip.

I have only had time to get a scope mounted and shoot half a tin of .22 to play around with with the way it works. I pulled out a tin of JTS 25gr pellets. I went back to my notes from my 2 Red Wolfs, my Crown, and Impacts to get an idea of possible speed. I started off with around 130 on the reg, and saw I wasn’t going to get to 970-980, so I bumped up the reg to get a wide range. I bumped it’ll the reg up to 160, and they got all the way up to 1000, so I know I can come back down. With a tiny sample, it looked like it likes 950ish on speed at short range and maybe 970ish.

I’m looking forward to backing it up to get a better idea on groups and test some AEA and JSB. Then I’ll move over the 18s (even though I hear a lot about Daystates only liking 25s, but I sure remember my Red Wolf loving 18s also. I also can’t wait to try some of the new weight pellets as well. And then I still get to play with 177! So much fun upcoming! Not just mindless smashing a tiny dot.

I have a lot of playing around coming up and I’m excited!!

 

[Danman]

I sold my second Red Wolf 4 years ago to get a Delta Wolf, but wasn’t being able to get one due to short supply. I moved on to some other brands… now I finally have my Delta Wolf!

I finally found a good deal from a good dude with 22 and 177 barrels and some other accessories that was too good to pass up. I still might need a couple accessories. I see why the race riser can come in handy, to get the scope far enough forward. I don’t like the factory scope rail. I am going to need some lower rings or a cheek riser too, because I do like it fairly high. Also time to add a vertical grip.

I have only had time to get a scope mounted and shoot half a tin of .22 to play around with with the way it works. I pulled out a tin of JTS 25gr pellets. I went back to my notes from my 2 Red Wolfs, my Crown, and Impacts to get an idea of possible speed. I started off with around 130 on the reg, and saw I wasn’t going to get to 970-980, so I bumped up the reg to get a wide range. I bumped it’ll the reg up to 160, and they got all the way up to 1000, so I know I can come back down. With a tiny sample, it looked like it likes 950ish on speed at short range and maybe 970ish.

I’m looking forward to backing it up to get a better idea on groups and test some AEA and JSB. Then I’ll move over the 18s (even though I hear a lot about Daystates only liking 25s, but I sure remember my Red Wolf loving 18s also. I also can’t wait to try some of the new weight pellets as well. And then I still get to play with 177! So much fun upcoming! Not just mindless smashing a tiny dot.

I have a lot of playing around coming up and I’m excited!!

Yes sir my Ghost shoots accurately in the same 950-975 FPS wheel house with the 25.39 stuff (both Mrds and JTS) although, believe it or not the Mrds give less fliers! Sure sounds fun esp with 2 different caliber barrels! That's a whole mess of ammo to test.. Think it'll shoot any slugs ok as- is?

 

[Smok3y]

Yes sir my Ghost shoots accurately in the same 950-975 FPS wheel house with the 25.39 stuff (both Mrds and JTS) although, believe it or not the Mrds give less fliers! Sure sounds fun esp with 2 different caliber barrels! That's a whole mess of ammo to test.. Think it'll shoot any slugs ok as- is?

Thanks for the confirmation on speed. My GCU2 RW with Helliboard liked that range, so it was interesting to see that be similar in this initial test. It has been hard finding a lot of data on the 22 in MRD with so many people going 25/30.

Two things I liked is that it wasn’t a harsh shot cycle at this power, and it wasn’t as loud as I expected, until I got too high. I picked a mod from the bin and that quieted down a bit and accuracy was still there.

As far as slugs go, the only slugs I will try will be 177, and from Soren’s testing for years in all barrels, I think it will do fine in the 13gr I might mess around with.

 

[Smok3y]

Went out during lunch and shot a little more 25g to finish the JTS can and started into a can of AEA. Really wanted to get a better feel for the couple speeds yesterday that seemed better and get a feel for changing speeds.

970 did better than 950. It felt like 970 had a little bigger speed window of good than 950. I went back to my Red Wolf data from years ago and saw that it’s best shooting was avg 980 (975-985 spread) on the Helliboard and the factory board was around 930. This barrel doesn’t seem to like it once it gets up to 975.

Few things I’ve noticed the last couple days…

1. I expected to pick a reg setting like 150 and let the gun do the rest when swapping pellets and speeds. That doesn’t seem to work that great. The issue I have found is that it seems like the gun has a harder time getting down to the speed it is programmed for when the reg is too high. I found quite a few times that the gun would get within 5fps higher than the speed and stop lowering… like it was happy it found a consistent speed and didn’t care that I asked for something lower. A few times it seemed to want to camp out at about 10fps higher. It wouldn’t find its way all the way down. But if I lowered the reg to right about the spot where it would it would just start hitting the speed, it would hit the required speed and camp right there. I lowered the reg back down to 137ish (at fill time, more on that later), and was shooting laser like at 971 over 32 shots with an ES=9, SD=2. One shot would have made that ES 7.
2. The reg pressure actually drops as I shoot through the string. I wasn’t expecting that. I filled to around 138 one round, and it had dropped to around 130 by the time the bottle got down to 150, and the speed and accuracy started to suffer not being able to stay up at 170. It didn’t like the 165-167 area it fell to. I tried the last round increasing reg a bit to account for that, to around 142, but the shots stayed up around 977-980 and wouldn’t come down. Looks like I need to find a good balance there. I’ll play some more with that for sure.

I really like the rifle. It was a real laser when it would stay around 970fps. Now to see if I can find similar accuracy in the lighter pellets, sipping less air!
I would like to find a good balance on the reg, so I don’t have to feel like I have to change it, because I do like shooting 18s and 25s daily to compare to each other. Having to mess with the reg each time would kinda suck. (But that is not much different than what you have to do with most rifles to squeak out that extra little bit of accuracy.

 

[hameditor]

Went out during lunch and shot a little more 25g to finish the JTS can and started into a can of AEA. Really wanted to get a better feel for the couple speeds yesterday that seemed better and get a feel for changing speeds.

970 did better than 950. It felt like 970 had a little bigger speed window of good than 950. I went back to my Red Wolf data from years ago and saw that it’s best shooting was avg 980 (975-985 spread) on the Helliboard and the factory board was around 930. This barrel doesn’t seem to like it once it gets up to 975.

Few things I’ve noticed the last couple days…

1. I expected to pick a reg setting like 150 and let the gun do the rest when swapping pellets and speeds. That doesn’t seem to work that great. The issue I have found is that it seems like the gun has a harder time getting down to the speed it is programmed for when the reg is too high. I found quite a few times that the gun would get within 5fps higher than the speed and stop lowering… like it was happy it found a consistent speed and didn’t care that I asked for something lower. A few times it seemed to want to camp out at about 10fps higher. It wouldn’t find its way all the way down. But if I lowered the reg to right about the spot where it would it would just start hitting the speed, it would hit the required speed and camp right there. I lowered the reg back down to 137ish (at fill time, more on that later), and was shooting laser like at 971 over 32 shots with an ES=9, SD=2. One shot would have made that ES 7.
2. The reg pressure actually drops as I shoot through the string. I wasn’t expecting that. I filled to around 138 one round, and it had dropped to around 130 by the time the bottle got down to 150, and the speed and accuracy started to suffer not being able to stay up at 170. It didn’t like the 165-167 area it fell to. I tried the last round increasing reg a bit to account for that, to around 142, but the shots stayed up around 977-980 and wouldn’t come down. Looks like I need to find a good balance there. I’ll play some more with that for sure.

I really like the rifle. It was a real laser when it would stay around 970fps. Now to see if I can find similar accuracy in the lighter pellets, sipping less air!
I would like to find a good balance on the reg, so I don’t have to feel like I have to change it, because I do like shooting 18s and 25s daily to compare to each other. Having to mess with the reg each time would kinda suck. (But that is not much different than what you have to do with most rifles to squeak out that extra little bit of accuracy.

Thanks for the comprehensive information.

 

[Danman]

I really like the rifle. It was a real laser when it would stay around 970fps. Now to see if I can find similar accuracy in the lighter pellets, sipping less air!
I would like to find a good balance on the reg, so I don’t have to feel like I have to change it, because I do like shooting 18s and 25s daily to compare to each other. Having to mess with the reg each time would kinda suck. (But that is not much different than what you have to do with most rifles to squeak out that extra little bit of accuracy.

I've written that idea off for my Ghost. 18gr we're too fast and like your D.W. it's just plain accurate shooting the 25gr @975 (and a serious hammer!) Its one of the reasons I have yet to touch my reg (still at 165bar) I don't know if leaving reg at 165 and lowering H.W. will yield me more shots per fill or lowering reg to 140/150 and upping H.W. to get my 975FPS back.