Not pistolas…

[Luis Leon]

It’s amusing to me seeing some taking the buttstocks off of “rifles” and calling them “pistols” for field target shooting. Why not simply a “buttstockless” rifles division? Unless you can “holster” the arm it “isn’t” a pistol. Just because you take the buttstock off of a long arm, does not make it a pistol…. “Pistol field target” a sham game I will never play… A more honest approach would have Pistol Field Target reflect what a “pistol” “is” a holsterable “sidearm”. Thought?

 

[MileHighAirGunner]

In my mind a “pistol” refers to a semi auto firearm that can be held and shot with one hand.
A “handgun” on the other hand is a type of gun that is held in one or two hands that is not shot from the shoulder. This would encompass derringers as well as pistols, and also include single shot handguns and revolvers with barrels up to 15” long. So handgun is probably far better terminology to refer to those pistol FT guns.
Many happily refer to their pistol FT rigs as “pifles” as they are often outfitted with rifle scopes even though they are not shot from the shoulder like a traditional rifle.

Keep in mind your beloved BRK Atomic was technically called a “pistol” by Brocock. but like you I think it is way too big to be a “pistol” at least by my standards anyways. But others actually use it as such so who’s wrong?
The Benjamin Marauder pistol is also a “pistol” in name and in name only in my mind and the Crosman 1720T was also intended to be a “pistol” as was the Umarex Notos. I own all of those and none of them are shot as pistols because I believe they make far better carbines due to their OAL. In fact I often refer to them as pistol carbines but some guys will argue they are just pistols with butt stocks even though they are nearly 36” long with said butt stocks and attached moderators and those same guys will turn around also argue with you that bullpups should be less than 30” long and are rifles.
Personally when a pistol or handgun gets much longer than 12” OAL or has barrel over 10” long the gun just isn’t a practical pistol or handgun anymore. Again that’s my personal standard. And if I’m going to put a rifle scope on a gun that has an OAL greater than 12” and a barrel greater than 10” I’m going to shoot it as a rifle because that just makes way more sense to me.
Honestly, at the end of the day, does any of it really matter? I think we all understand each other and we’re all here to have a good time and enjoy our hobbies in ways that make us happy. I say call them what you want and shoot them as you want and let the bygones be bygones.
plink away and have a great weekend ya all.

 

[Hateful McNasty]

It’s amusing to me seeing some taking the buttstocks off of “rifles” and calling them “pistols” for field target shooting. Why not simply a “buttstockless” rifles division? Unless you can “holster” the arm it “isn’t” a pistol. Just because you take the buttstock off of a long arm, does not make it a pistol…. “Pistol field target” a sham game I will never play… A more honest approach would have Pistol Field Target reflect what a “pistol” “is” a holsterable “sidearm”. Thought?

Probably guys who watched "wanted" too much .

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[Nordic Norm]

It’s amusing to me seeing some taking the buttstocks off of “rifles” and calling them “pistols” for field target shooting. Why not simply a “buttstockless” rifles division? Unless you can “holster” the arm it “isn’t” a pistol. Just because you take the buttstock off of a long arm, does not make it a pistol…. “Pistol field target” a sham game I will never play… A more honest approach would have Pistol Field Target reflect what a “pistol” “is” a holsterable “sidearm”. Thought?

Make a rule that in addition to removing the stock, the barrel also has to be sawed off ! Bet that ends the trends.

 

[Luis Leon]

Make a rule that in addition to removing the stock, the barrel also has to be sawed off ! Bet that ends the trends.

Not looking to ”end a trend” just the terminology… a pistol? Almost all of the rigs used in the “game” do not meet the definition of a “pistol“…

 

[Hateful McNasty]

Make a rule that in addition to removing the stock, the barrel also has to be sawed off ! Bet that ends the trends.

Or just a 12inch or under rule / common pistol length. I do see pcp guys taking like the Diana pistol barrel off and using the rifle one .. it's a direct fit thing ..

 

[Ezana4CE]

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[Farmplinker2]

Well, they're not any more ridiculous than a T/C Contender with a 14" barrel.

 

[Solo1]

Well, they're not any more ridiculous than a T/C Contender with a 14" barrel.

And this is sort of where the terminology comes from. The afta rules for pistol field target allow 15” barrels. They aren’t really necessary for aafta as its a 12 fpe game but that length also includes the moderator. Now for hi power or extreme ft you need 20 fpe and the reason for the long barrel. And all this was started i think by silhouette
shooters going to air

 

[jps2486]

If the rules allow it, it will be built.

 

[ctshooter]

I tend to agree with Luis on this one. When I am seeing more threads showing a new FT pistol which is essentially an air rifle with the stock cut down and a shroud removed. It may be within the rules for Pistol FT, but it is a stretch of the overall term 'pistol'.

 

[jps2486]

I tend to agree with Luis on this one. When I am seeing more threads showing a new FT pistol which is essentially an air rifle with the stock cut down and a shroud removed. It may be within the rules for Pistol FT, but it is a stretch of the overall term 'pistol'.

Maybe there should be a better definition of "Pistol"? But, look at an AR-15 with a 12 inch bbl. The government says its a pistol. Go figure.

 

[Farmplinker2]

Maybe there should be a better definition of "Pistol"? But, look at an AR-15 with a 12 inch bbl. The government says its a pistol. Go figure.

Except you don't need a $200 stamp if you want to put a stock on the airgun.

 

[pan60]

Maybe there should be a better definition of "Pistol"? But, look at an AR-15 with a 12 inch bbl. The government says its a pistol. Go figure.

how does that work?
so if its a pistal you cant have a sholder assit correct?

 

[Hateful McNasty]

how does that work?
so if its a pistal you cant have a sholder assit correct?

I guess it's the guy in charge defining and writing the rule book. . probly a guy that never had a pistol in his life and guessing on what he thinks it should be in his opinion..

 

[pan60]

I guess it's the guy in charge defining and writing the rule book. . probly a guy that never had a pistol in his life and guessing on what he thinks it should be in his opinion..

i am not a 100% sure but if they clasify it as pistal you cant run a stock, no shoulder assist. so you just have the tube hanging out back there? how does that work?
i heard they where going to clasify it as a pistal ut just hear say

 

[Hateful McNasty]

i am not a 100% sure but if they clasify it as pistal you cant run a stock, no shoulder assist. so you just have the tube hanging out back there? how does that work?
i heard they where going to clasify it as a pistal ut just hear say

I guess it's a you go with the flow or just don't go .. another novelty event I guess to spend more on and do the same ol thing anyway in the end ...