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Others Nikko Stirling Panamax - a little help please....

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I'm very interested in the Panamax 3-9x40 AO, which comes in two flavors - illuminated and non-illuminated.

Photos and specs indicate they are identical except for the illumination. What is left unsaid is if the non-AO reticle is engraved. I believe the illuminated reticles are. I have an 8-24 Panamax and it appears to be engraved.

I want the non-AO reticle to be etched as well, or I don't think I want one, so it's important for me to find out.

If anyone knows, please chine in!



Also, for anyone who is interested -
Nikko advertises the Panamax line as airgun rated with a lifetime warranty (for the original owner at least). The 8-24x50 that I have seems to be a legit step up from every Hawke Vantage I've owned, and I believe that the Vantage buyers are their target demographic.

Glass is good!, and not just for what I paid.
Controls feel great. Markings are very good. The half mil dot/hash reticle is simple, crisp and is perfect for the long range plinking that I do. The entire scope seems to be well made. I find them to be good looking too.
Tonight, I looked at a few points of interest around my neighborhood in very dim, failing. light. At 8x, my view was much brighter than my naked eye and I was able to see everything much better. At 24x, it was a little less bright than the naked eye, but not bad at all. It quickly got too dark for me to have any chance at reading the clearly marked AO markings so I ducked into the house, set it to 100 (and yes, it dials down to 10 yards) then went back to look towards a single outside light on a house roughly 100 yards away, and everything in its area of illumination was surprisingly crisp. Evidentally, the coatings are good enough on this scope that the 1" tube isn't hindering its brightness. No tunneling effect that I noticed either.
I'm looking forward to getting it on a springer so that I can see if it truly holds up. I may mount it on my FWB 300, if it doesn't get in the way of the breech.
I will not be able to outshoot it range-wise with the 300. Reports from Europe about these have been very positive, and I'm encouraged even if they are likely doing well on 12fpe rifles....
 
So... Kinda light on company info like address phone number pretty much any physical info .

I just don't know .. being sub $100 I guess if you got hosed your not out much , but gor me $1 is same as $100 when ripped off ..lol

Now did you compare to there airking line ?

Oh.. just noticed at Amazon these are a non returnable items .. hmmmmm....

Just to add that being air gun rated don't mean it's springer air gun rated .😉
 
Mc, I think I have one answer - from anecdotal evidence it looks like only the IR models have etched reticles. I still don't know if the reticles are valid at max magnification or something else, but I have an email in to them.

I will say that if they simply hold up (and per European websites, they are very well regarded on springers), then I will very much prefer them to the Hawke Vantage. And at much less expense.

The 8-24x50 that I have will be going on a fine rimfire but I will be buying at least a 3-9x40 AO for a springer. And if the reticles are valid at max magnification, I will be eagerly waiting for a sale on the 6-18x50. Magnification reduction would mean that, when set to 16x, the reticle is nearly spot on for true inch graduations (which is how my brain works).

I like mine, the only one I've ever seen, and I expect it to be a good match for my CZ.
 
@Kragman1 I've wondered about this brand's build and warranty. I have read pretty good things about their scopes, just never tried one. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience with one.
 
Mc, I think I have one answer - from anecdotal evidence it looks like only the IR models have etched reticles. I still don't know if the reticles are valid at max magnification or something else, but I have an email in to them.

I will say that if they simply hold up (and per European websites, they are very well regarded on springers), then I will very much prefer them to the Hawke Vantage. And at much less expense.

The 8-24x50 that I have will be going on a fine rimfire but I will be buying at least a 3-9x40 AO for a springer. And if the reticles are valid at max magnification, I will be eagerly waiting for a sale on the 6-18x50. Magnification reduction would mean that, when set to 16x, the reticle is nearly spot on for true inch graduations (which is how my brain works).

I like mine, the only one I've ever seen, and I expect it to be a good match for my CZ.
Eu springers .. well like all USA powered ?

Honestly if one was local I could walk in say Walmart and grab and try for 80 bucks I would probably try one .. one of my favorite scopes was a Simmons pro target for 50$ at Walmart but could not hold up under my springer use.

Man I like it too wife clear glass ( 30mm) nice mildot revival. Tracted true nice clicking.

Too bad . I tried 2 out same results .

It just comes down to you buy , you try, and hope it don't make you cry..
 
So, my wallet was feeling very bruised after Christmas and I ended up buying a different Nikko scope: a $57 MountMaster 4-12x50 AO IR.
I have a 4x40 AO IR MountMaster that I like, and since the 4-12 has the same "HMD" etched reticle (and the same warranty) as the Panamax, I decided to save $80 and give the MountMaster a try.

It has shipped, so I'll post my first impressions when it shows up.
I'll mount it on something modest and see how it holds groups when I get a chance. That could be spring, though I sure hope not!
 
I'm plenty cheap... 😁


And I have to say, based on the 8-24x50 that I've played around with, that this looks like a great deal for $82 shipped:


The 4-12x50 is only $18 more, and things go up modestly from there, just in case anyone is interested. Like I said, I'm starting to see the Panamax as a "Vantage killer".
 

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