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New CCI airgun slugs
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I wouldn't let the diameter stop me from trying them. Personally, I almost always find best slug accuracy with slugs that are smaller diameter than the groove diameter.
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I don't shoot slugs from choked barrels. Never have even tried. My non-choked CZ barrel has always shown best accruracy with slugs that are smaller diameter than groove diameter. I have spent way too much money on slugs testing!
Don't get me wrong, I'm only stating that slug barrels do not always respond best to groove diameter slugs. I know AVS promotes groove diameter slugs as 'best' but I have not found that to necessarily be true. Maybe yes..., but just as often no.
Blurring the differences between the disciplines even more. Looks like a lot of friction with that (lack of) design. Like they're just throwing their segmented in a press and calling it good. Maybe through sheer economies of scale they will produce something good, or at least cheaper. They've got deep pockets. Does anyone know what their lead properties are? I'm guessing probably harder than airgun only slugs that we have been shooting. The most important thing will always be the accuracy, we'll see.
My thoughts,
CCI’s new slugs look interesting, but the design really isn’t aligned with how PCP barrels work. They’re undersized for caliber, which prevents a proper air seal and leads to inconsistent velocities in non‑choked barrels. The alloy also appears harder than typical soft‑lead airgun slugs, so they don’t obturate or engage rifling the way airguns rely on. Add in the deep grooves and segmented construction, and you get extra friction and unpredictable deformation under air pressure. Big‑bore and slug‑focused PCPs generally shoot best with correct diameter, soft lead, and smooth or shallow‑groove designs. CCI’s current approach is more “firearm thinking” than airgun engineering — just my thoughts on them.
small bores, you’re probably going to see undesirable effects too — undersized, harder, deeply‑grooved slugs don’t seal well in typical .22/.25 PCP barrels, so you get air blow‑by, erratic velocities, and accuracy that falls apart fast. (If someone should try them, please post your findings)
It's all going to depend on what their intentions are. If they want to do it right, they certainly could. They must have done some testing. What airgun guy helped them out with that? It would have been nice to see a known shooter using these in their first to market video too. A lot of blank spaces to be filled in on this one. They are CCI though, so I'll bet we will be seeing these sooner than FX Halo ammo. lol
Billm
Grand HAMster
I’ve always liked CCI .22LR/WMR AMMO. I would/think that with their roots/experience and assets, they’d have some research behind it. I thought that too with Norma pellets, only to discover that Norma pellets are designed and produced by RWS. My big take away from this is: an ammunition manufacturer famous for their .22LR/WMR products, feels that the airgun ammo market is worth their investment. I am somewhat concerned about the potential consequences of blurring the boundary of airguns and more powerful options.
Northeastbeast
HAM Sniper
I feel like they didnt consult with any Airgunners when they made this slug
Billm
Grand HAMster
Am I missing something? Are there dismal shooting reports that have escaped me? There would be a lot less groundbreaking discoveries if no one ever thought outside of the box. It’s not that long ago that conventional airgunners exclaimed that airguns were limited to waisted pellets. I hope their product works well enough for them to continue developing slugs. With a company like CCI and the Corbin/UA slug collaboration, slug development has a brighter future. I just wish they’d put some of this effort into .25/.30 slugs. Heavy .22 slugs really limits the number of aurguns capable of pushing them.
Danman
Grand HAMster
Alrighty!! Who wants to buy a box of both sizes and test these bad boys out for us, in the name of science?
Im mighty curious tbh!
Will they expand like that on game?
Will they be accurate?
Will there be different sizes down the road? (although 30 and 35gr are about perfect in a .22 pcp with the power to send em.
My money is on they will be on the harder side.
Im mighty curious tbh!
Will they expand like that on game?
Will they be accurate?
Will there be different sizes down the road? (although 30 and 35gr are about perfect in a .22 pcp with the power to send em.
My money is on they will be on the harder side.
Danman
Grand HAMster
Mmmm no I disagree with that statement very much
... Fx, AirForce, RTI, Brk/Daystate, Skout, etc all make powerful enough pcps to send a .22cal 30/35grainer with ease. Its a good starting point, but yeah im guessing they are testing the waters first before going all in? Its definitely a big deal that a big company like that is looking at airguns and ammo.30 grain docent seem bad for weight to me? I think for guys shooting slugs that on the lite side?
seems I recall some where wanting heavier .22 but the mags limit what they can get?
as I recall that is a limit for .22 cal with out changing some gun design just easier to move up to the .25 cal or a .30 cal
I think getting closer to a 60 gr would probably be fine for most guys. ???
I am glad to see CCI in the market I have always been surprised there weren't more ammo companies making slugs or pellets for that matter. I think the issue has always been market size?
seems I recall some where wanting heavier .22 but the mags limit what they can get?
as I recall that is a limit for .22 cal with out changing some gun design just easier to move up to the .25 cal or a .30 cal
I think getting closer to a 60 gr would probably be fine for most guys. ???
I am glad to see CCI in the market I have always been surprised there weren't more ammo companies making slugs or pellets for that matter. I think the issue has always been market size?
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What got them to jump in? Why now? Whom did they consult with? What was the gun and the power level that they were going for when they chose 30gr .217 size? If it was just for hunters, which animals and how did their testing go?
Which other brands did they look at and decide that there was a place in the market that they could fill and do better? We got none of that, just we're huge, we're here, which is pretty typical. It would be nice if they accomplished nothing more than getting the price down, or just keep it level. If they actually wanted to get serious and compete against Altaros, that would be interesting. Really interesting. If this is just we've got segmented slugs and want some of your money too, ...big yawn!
We're all asking the right questions, it is really increasingly annoying, knowing, that we will never get an answer, while living in the information age. Prove me wrong CCI, please!
Which other brands did they look at and decide that there was a place in the market that they could fill and do better? We got none of that, just we're huge, we're here, which is pretty typical. It would be nice if they accomplished nothing more than getting the price down, or just keep it level. If they actually wanted to get serious and compete against Altaros, that would be interesting. Really interesting. If this is just we've got segmented slugs and want some of your money too, ...big yawn!
We're all asking the right questions, it is really increasingly annoying, knowing, that we will never get an answer, while living in the information age. Prove me wrong CCI, please!
Billm
Grand HAMster
I was more referring to the Corbin/UA 40gr.. You’re also referring to a manufacturer that caters to mass markets and none of those airguns are targeted at the mass market. How many Barra, Beeman, Umarex, and other sub $500 airguns can push a 35-40gr slug with a large bearing surface to 950fps? The mass markets don’t buy many $2000 plus airguns. Assuming you need that type of velocity. If they can’t sell large numbers, I doubt they will be in the market for long. But, on the flip side, I’m sure they’ve done some market research. I bought a tin of the .22 40gr Airmarksman slugs when they first came out. Unfortunately none of my airguns can launch them. I don’t want to waste them, so I will be forced to purchase a rifle that can, Bill’s economics 101.Mmmm no I disagree with that statement very much
Side note: Corbin is about to release their .30 high BC slug profile very soon.
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You're exactly right. They are not going to be selling slugs to the 30fpe pcp guys, and certainly not to the springer guys. Everyone else wants accuracy first and soft lead already expands like crazy. I don't know where to find the emoji with the guy eating popcorn, but that's me on this one.
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