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Lead in airgun ammunition

Alan

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I recently had a conversation with a tree hugger (we all know who they are), who made a bold statement which is blatantly not true. She uttered (sic) “Hunters and fishers pour more lead into the environment than every other use ever has.” One has to assume she meant from ammo and sinkers? The truth lies elsewhere.

Since the early 1920s, automobile manufacturers and gasoline refineries have produced nearly a billion metric tons of tetra ethyl of lead (TEL). Although banned from automobile fuel for several decades, it is still being used in airplane and racing fuels.

Globally, the number of deaths due to TEL have rivaled those lost to war! In fact, the deaths from TEL will continue for many years, as there are still measurable amounts of TEL in air samples from across the globe.

Perhaps as deadly is ethylene bromide. It was added to leaded fuel to keep lead from building up on cylinder walls. Thus both lead and bromine compounds were expelled out the exhaust of automobiles the world around. Incidentally, ethylene bromide was once used as a soil fumigant for agriculture, but has been banned for many years.

Putting this into perspective vis-s-vis shooting (and fishing) sports, the presents of lead alloys is in the environment (bullet lead, sinkers, etc.) is considerably safer than those from TEL. It should be noted, however, that lead alloys can still be environmentally unfriendly. For example, lead shot has been banned for many years with respect to bird hunting. The reason is simply that birds grind lead bird shot in their gullets into a form more easily digested. No hunter should have an issue with this restriction.

The end point is obvious. We need to be diligent in our efforts in making sure that misinformation about lead and its alloys is kept within truthful boundaries, and not let zealots reign supreme!
 
For all my pellet paper punching I collect EVERY Single pellet in my trap and discard into my lead wheel weight bin. It is on the scrap metal place to send it down the right channels for reuse/recycling properly. (Lead is worth very little as scrap I have found vs most other metals) But yeah hunting/pesting and plinking they are definitely getting out there. I have been shooting some other ammo option recently with actually decent results but lead is still king for accuracy.
Best misinfo is not understanding that the world's over population is the cause of all these " issues". (Opinion). Covid lockdown proved that .
I may need a further explanation on what you mean? 🤔😅
 
For all my pellet paper punching I collect EVERY Single pellet in my trap and discard into my lead wheel weight bin. It is on the scrap metal place to send it down the right channels for reuse/recycling properly. (Lead is worth very little as scrap I have found vs most other metals) But yeah hunting/pesting and plinking they are definitely getting out there. I have been shooting some other ammo option recently with actually decent results but lead is still king for accuracy.

I may need a further explane ation on what you mean? 🤔😅
When (most) everybody was locked down around the world all that pollution and global warming dropped and showed how fast the earth went to repair .

Where are we at now ? 10 billion people ..lol. Just body heat alone is globle warming ..lol.

Then I think in bible revelation what happens after 2/3 of the population gets whipped out the earth goes back to a paradise.. humans are a Cancer on the earth .. History shows that .. poor ol' earth can only take so much. Right? It gets ragged put like anything else well used and abused ..

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Overloaded ..lol
 
I would not mind shooting good pba ammo , bit there going to have to bring the pricing down to lead levels .. I looked at a tin yesterday and it was like twice the price or more pre tin .. so like anything else I'm just going to pass it on and dump it off on the future generation to worry on ..lol.
 
The way the modern world works from my short time of being here and observing can be summed up like this: Is it good for the world? Well no...hm ok, well does it make money? Yes! Than it's OK, just put a label on it that says it's ok. Modern food production, phone/technology, pollution, industrial revolution, vaccines, etc, etc. Space exploration is a 100% waste of time and resources, always has been always will be, while the earth is very good at healing itself if allowed to. Lead is pretty highly recycled and it's not made in an obscure lab it's mined from the earth. Yes it has negative impacts on living organisms esp in high concentrations, but so does most things. The ink from the "This may cause cancer" labels causes cancer. Sheesh, we get it!
Hunters and fishers pour more lead into the environment than every other use ever has.”
Yeah hard no lady, that would be the transportation industry, and all those batteries filled with lead will save us zealots (I'm not against religion, just false religion!)
Now back to air rifle ammo🤣. I am loving the H&N green pellets and they were shooting well (read not as good as JSB lead🤩) out of the S510 last week. Definitely not a 'be all do all' ammo but pests in the garden/meat for the freezer it is a good option. Ever drop a .177 pellet In the grass? Good luck finding it back! Small potatoes.
 
The way the modern world works from my short time of being here and observing can be summed up like this: Is it good for the world? Well no...hm ok, well does it make money? Yes! Than it's OK, just put a label on it that says it's ok. Modern food production, phone/technology, pollution, industrial revolution, vaccines, etc, etc. Space exploration is a 100% waste of time and resources, always has been always will be, while the earth is very good at healing itself if allowed to. Lead is pretty highly recycled and it's not made in an obscure lab it's mined from the earth. Yes it has negative impacts on living organisms esp in high concentrations, but so does most things. The ink from the "This may cause cancer" labels causes cancer. Sheesh, we get it!
Hunters and fishers pour more lead into the environment than every other use ever has.”
Yeah hard no lady, that would be the transportation industry, and all those batteries filled with lead will save us zealots (I'm not against religion, just false religion!)
Now back to air rifle ammo🤣. I am loving the H&N green pellets and they were shooting well (read not as good as JSB lead🤩) out of the S510 last week. Definitely not a 'be all do all' ammo but pests in the garden/meat for the freezer it is a good option. Ever drop a .177 pellet In the grass? Good luck finding it back! Small potatoes.
I spill the whole tin in the grass and then curse the part that I was too busy shooting I never mowed the grass to help finding / picking up the dumped pellets ..
 
I did not expect my post to become a discussion in global warming, but rather as a warning of sorts.

We need to be aware of the big picture, rather than focus on one specific (environmental) issue as many zealots do. They also tend to be overly loud and obnoxious, and trying to enlighten them is about as easy as herding cats. The only way, I believe, is to be more diligent in our efforts to fight misinformation.

The recycling of lead is the poster-child of all recycling efforts. In the US, approximately 96% of the lead is recycled, most of which is from automotive batteries. Lead is no longer used for wheel weights, and fishing sinker makers are switching to bismuth. As pointed out above, lead is still king for ammunition use, and probably will remain so for many years to come. If, that is, we do not allow environmental zealots to make the rules irresponsibly.
 
I did not expect my post to become a discussion in global warming, but rather as a warning of sorts.

We need to be aware of the big picture, rather than focus on one specific (environmental) issue as many zealots do. They also tend to be overly loud and obnoxious, and trying to enlighten them is about as easy as herding cats. The only way, I believe, is to be more diligent in our efforts to fight misinformation.

The recycling of lead is the poster-child of all recycling efforts. In the US, approximately 96% of the lead is recycled, most of which is from automotive batteries. Lead is no longer used for wheel weights, and fishing sinker makers are switching to bismuth. As pointed out above, lead is still king for ammunition use, and probably will remain so for many years to come. If, that is, we do not allow environmental zealots to make the rules irresponsibly.
Warming , lead , whatever. Lol

I recall years ago a story on used computers china buys to grind up and extract/ recycle metals out and the toxic run off just dumped on the ground and run off in to a river there the amount of lead and mercury that was just in that plus the rest . It was a crude sloppy operation and a mountain of computers being processed every day all day ..

Funny you never see Gretta or your tree hugger over there complaining or protesting .. wonder why ?? ..😏
 
I did not expect my post to become a discussion in global warming, but rather as a warning of sorts.

We need to be aware of the big picture, rather than focus on one specific (environmental) issue as many zealots do. They also tend to be overly loud and obnoxious, and trying to enlighten them is about as easy as herding cats. The only way, I believe, is to be more diligent in our efforts to fight misinformation.

The recycling of lead is the poster-child of all recycling efforts. In the US, approximately 96% of the lead is recycled, most of which is from automotive batteries. Lead is no longer used for wheel weights, and fishing sinker makers are switching to bismuth. As pointed out above, lead is still king for ammunition use, and probably will remain so for many years to come. If, that is, we do not allow environmental zealots to make the rules irresponsibly.
Well I suppose lead wheel weights are banned in some places/countries but here in my Auto shop I have lead and lead free options still being sold. It was talked about being banned but never really happened. I say collect/Recycle what you can and don't sweat the rest. The zealots you speak of are insane...and need to get jobs 😆 Seriously. Let's tie ourselves to trucks, block roads, and spray paint people's property....um no Please don't! 🤦‍♂️
 
Well I suppose lead wheel weights are banned in some places/countries but here in my Auto shop I have lead and lead free options still being sold. It was talked about being banned but never really happened. I say collect/Recycle what you can and don't sweat the rest. The zealots you speak of are insane...and need to get jobs 😆 Seriously. Let's tie ourselves to trucks, block roads, and spray paint people's property....um no Please don't! 🤦‍♂️
Ya, like how plastic recycling is here in the USA .. a tax payer funded joke ..lol.
 
place envirmental restriction to such a degree you force companies out of bussness then ship everything to china so as a politition you get your kick back and as a bonus you saved the planet because lord you know they do a better job of managing the waste then the we do

LOL

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One of the skeet ranges I shoot at has a company that comes out every couple of years with this giant machine and takes the top layer of soil to recycle all the lead shot. I thought that was pretty cool.
That don't seen too cost effective.. lead don't sell as gold ..lol

We had a clay pot guys use to go shoot at abd the pit walls and knocked loose dirt at the bottom was chocked full of bullets and slugs , buckshot , ect.. lots ...
 

You can overload very easily; lead is a highly studied topic and shooting sports rarely registers in most studies. Lead combined into organic compounds is magnitudes more dangerous than elemental lead. Still, we need to be good responsible stewards of our environment which can only happen with proper knowledge.
 

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