Is It Just Me Or....?

[SpindleB]

I'm a LOT more comfortable with the fairly light and frankly rational moderation on HAM. Try discussing a moderation issue on the other site and boom your account is nuked and any classifieds you had are no longer accessible. Although you get weekly emails to update those dead classifieds.

There is also a level of arrogance that is off putting exhibited by some of the long term members. Yes, search first is correct but a lot of new users don't even know a search function exists so they ask those basic questions. I just answer them, but more than a few just tell them to search. Quite often in a dismissive or rude manner.

All in all, HAM is just a more welcoming place, regardless of your level of experience, and that is why it has more socializing posts. The community is not huge and you develop online relationships with people with whom you interact with regularity. That creates a more social environment. Just a function of being human.

 

[Billm]

I'm a LOT more comfortable with the fairly light and frankly rational moderation on HAM. Try discussing a moderation issue on the other site and boom your account is nuked and any classifieds you had are no longer accessible. Although you get weekly emails to update those dead classifieds.

There is also a level of arrogance that is off putting exhibited by some of the long term members. Yes, search first is correct but a lot of new users don't even know a search function exists so they ask those basic questions. I just answer them, but more than a few just tell them to search. Quite often in a dismissive or rude manner.

All in all, HAM is just a more welcoming place, regardless of your level of experience, and that is why it has more socializing posts. The community is not huge and you develop online relationships with people with whom you interact with regularity. That creates a more social environment. Just a function of being human.

Agreed. I mostly lurk on the other forum. This is a very friendly forum.

 

[hameditor]

I'm a LOT more comfortable with the fairly light and frankly rational moderation on HAM. Try discussing a moderation issue on the other site and boom your account is nuked and any classifieds you had are no longer accessible. Although you get weekly emails to update those dead classifieds.

There is also a level of arrogance that is off putting exhibited by some of the long term members. Yes, search first is correct but a lot of new users don't even know a search function exists so they ask those basic questions. I just answer them, but more than a few just tell them to search. Quite often in a dismissive or rude manner.

All in all, HAM is just a more welcoming place, regardless of your level of experience, and that is why it has more socializing posts. The community is not huge and you develop online relationships with people with whom you interact with regularity. That creates a more social environment. Just a function of being human.

@SpindleB thanks for your supportive words about how we run the HAM Community. Your commentary is a good summary of what we are aiming to achieve here

 

[SpindleB]

@SpindleB thanks for your supportive words about how we run the HAM Community. Your commentary is a good summary of what we are aiming to achieve here

Well, I am a long term veteran of USENET (newsgroups), my first post was 1981. I am, in general, not a big fan of any moderation. My opinion is you are responsible for who and what you read. But these days people expect someone else to be responsible for an awful lot of things. Putting the work on someone else.

But light handed moderation like here is fine. I do understand why moderationis needed, especially given the political climate. Keeping, in main, the topics on point but allowing thread drift is as good as can be expected.

It isnt an easy needle to thread and you and Pan60 seem to be doing a fine job. I've only seen one user banned and it was justified.

 

[Danman]

I find a pretty good mix of helpful, useful information and (Airgun) socializing mixed in. I'm 38, have 3 kids/wife, 2 jobs, many hobbies lol, and I often will go a week or 2 without shooting my beloved Airguns. So some reading on Ham to scratch the itch and read about others who did get out and shoot, or clean/organize, show off what they bought, reviews, gun work, pesting, etc is always nice! I often check out Ham on all my work breaks....beats watching Liberal news, or Facebook anyday of the week!

 

[Scriv]

Some time has passed since I first read this thread. A few members have taught me that there are those that read to comprehend, and retain what is written. I was a bit surprised to be honest. I have considered the value of the social aspect of this group, and think that it is favorable. It does create an environment to ask questions. As someone mentioned, there is literally no one where I live to discuss airguns with. I have left many groups over the years, due to the bickering, and childish behavior. It's a breath of fresh air to not witness much of that here. I wish for it to continue.

 

[Grunt64]

I love seeing the social chit chat I think that makes it more welcoming.
also I am not sure that when some has had a issue that several here have offered up solutions?

now for me personally and as a moderator I would like see a section dedicated more to the mechanics the machining and even manufacturing but I am most likely in the minority on the I have brought it up to the boss and if there an interested there always a possibility.

we have some very capable members?

That would be great addition for everyone.

 

[Moose]

That would be great addition for everyone.

Being a creative person with a large skillset background, I am always looking for new concepts to learn about. Many of my ideas stretch the imagination for most people. But if they work, they work. I don't put out ideas that I have not verified due to negative critiquing. I do like that ideas can be challenged as long as facts drive the results of the conversation. I try to learn from all sources. I'm looking forward to future posts.

 

[SpindleB]

Being a creative person with a large skillset background, I am always looking for new concepts to learn about. Many of my ideas stretch the imagination for most people. But if they work, they work. I don't put out ideas that I have not verified due to negative critiquing. I do like that ideas can be challenged as long as facts drive the results of the conversation. I try to learn from all sources. I'm looking forward to future posts.

Yeah, my brain comes up with *ideas* that I end up trying out just as feasibility studies. Most end up being less than successful. But the important thing is that I figure out why it wasn't successful. Sometimes it is a long forgotten engineering fact that, once remembered, causes the "oh, yeah, damn" reaction.

But I am an EE not a ME so ignorance raises it's ugly little head usually and I have to go learn something new at 70 just to satisfy my curiosity.

I also no longer can pop over to the old man's garage and use all the machine tools. So I'm limited to commercial parts these days.

 

[Moose]

Yeah, my brain comes up with *ideas* that I end up trying out just as feasibility studies. Most end up being less than successful. But the important thing is that I figure out why it wasn't successful. Sometimes it is a long forgotten engineering fact that, once remembered, causes the "oh, yeah, damn" reaction.

But I am an EE not a ME so ignorance raises it's ugly little head usually and I have to go learn something new at 70 just to satisfy my curiosity.

I also no longer can pop over to the old man's garage and use all the machine tools. So I'm limited to commercial parts these days.

I think it is impossible to learn anything new if you don't fail. If it worked, you already had a good idea it was going to work. It seems counter-intuitive to say I know more now, because I have failed so much. I have learned to laugh at myself before others get the chance.
5 years ago, I taught myself how to 3D draw and then print my ideas. It saved me a fortune in $ and time. I have over 200-300 targeting sights for pistols, rifles, bows and other things that need a better solution for targeting. I have many more prototypes that failed. Seems like I have gotten a lot busier leading up to that 70 mark. I look forward to more conversations going forward.

 

[SpindleB]

I think it is impossible to learn anything new if you don't fail. If it worked, you already had a good idea it was going to work. It seems counter-intuitive to say I know more now, because I have failed so much. I have learned to laugh at myself before others get the chance.
5 years ago, I taught myself how to 3D draw and then print my ideas. It saved me a fortune in $ and time. I have over 200-300 targeting sights for pistols, rifles, bows and other things that need a better solution for targeting. I have many more prototypes that failed. Seems like I have gotten a lot busier leading up to that 70 mark. I look forward to more conversations going forward.

Yep, my father taught me that at a very young age. You learn nothing from success.

I started down the 3d printing path for a work project. But have run into a bit of an ROI issue. The software we need with add-ons is about $10,000 plus annual maintenance fee of 10%. What we were trying to capture was $20-30k in external expenses. We do charge the customer that expense and a markup so it isnt lost revenue. So between my time (overhead) and software costs it is pretty much a wash.

Other than printing a couple moderators haven't used the printers for much else. I have a hard time with 3d, been 2d for the last 45 years so it is a bit of a learning curve.

 

[Scriv]

I just wanted to say that I appreciate all the comments here, and appreciate y'all making this a great place to hang out. I've learned a lot. I appreciate you.