I've owned at least 5 HW50"S and 7 HW95's. None of the 50's shot smooth out of the box. The only HW95's that were fairly smooth were back when you would get a .177cal that was close to 12 foot pounds around 20 years ago. (Beeman R-9's) Granted they are not bad in comparison to RWS Diana's or Gamo's, but once you have had tuned springers it's hard to go back. The only gas rams that I liked were Theoben's. I don't shoot springers near as much as I once did. I shoot pcp's way more these days, but I still enjoy shooting springers.