EVOL HPS Evol HPS mini at AoA

[RicL]

American Air Arms EVOL Mini .30 HPS with 12" Barrel: Airguns of Arizona | Premier Airgun Store

Looks like it’s in

 

[ctshooter]

I just saw that as well. Exciting to these start making it to market. Decent specs - ship at 70fpe and can do up to 90 on a 12" barrel. Up to 35 shots @ 50 fpe. I wonder what shot count would be like pushing a 45gr AEA up to 900fps? For the size if you could get two mags (9 x 2 = 18 shots) at that power it would be pretty good.

As much as I'd like to pull the trigger on this one, I have a Sonoran already and am waiting for a longer barrel HPS suitable for slugs.

 

[Bladebum]

These new hps recievers are exciting, somehow Tom has upped power and efficiency which was already fantastic in the older guns like mine. Tom if your listening, I hope there are plans to make the 15" .22 with the new hps features and sub moa barrels that can shoot slugs. I would imagine you wouldn't be able to keep that on the shelves.

 

[pan60]

the 15" is the size IMHO as well a 15" dumping slugs would be great.
that HPS .30 is a beauty!

 

[Bladebum]

the 15" is the size IMHO as well a 15" dumping slugs would be great.
that HPS .30 is a beauty!

That little mini 30 making that kind of power and efficiency is top tier. The only platform I think that might be able to match that would be the panthera compact hunter, and im not sure it can really, and the mini evol is a much simpler and more robust platform.

I could see a 15" .22 easily obtaining 50-60 ft lbs with slugs and great efficiency and I would have a difficult time not finding a reason to own that.

 

[Pumacarl]

I can understand this short barrel/high power trend a lot better since I got a TalonP. A 20year old .25 with a 12" barrel easily doing 57fpe. Power is one thing, but I didn't expect that they were really accurate too. I didn't think that any of the short barreled airguns could be as accurate as the longer ones and found out I was wrong about that too. Deciding which airgun to buy has definately changed from performance considerations to just plain old personal preferences. I certainly prefer AAA quality to anything else, and unlike AirForce guns, I prefer magazines and sidelevers too. This new mini-hps is a stalking hunters dream.

 

[Bladebum]

I can understand this short barrel/high power trend a lot better since I got a TalonP. A 20year old .25 with a 12" barrel easily doing 57fpe. Power is one thing, but I didn't expect that they were really accurate too. I didn't think that any of the short barreled airguns could be as accurate as the longer ones and found out I was wrong about that too. Deciding which airgun to buy has definately changed from performance considerations to just plain old personal preferences. I certainly prefer AAA quality to anything else, and unlike AirForce guns, I prefer magazines and sidelevers too. This new mini-hps is a stalking hunters dream.

Just 10 years ago, the performance out of short barrels just wasn't possible. Longer barrels and a ton of air consumption was neccessary to get power, but even then projectiles couldn't really hang with too much. Now with slug choices a plenty in all the calibers, it just makes sense that advancements get pushed so we can have powerful yet compact field guns.

I remember when the discovery came out(2008 I think?) And I entered the pcp game for the first time. Coming from multi pumps and springers my whole life, that gun was light years ahead in performance. I remember thinking how crazy it was the accuracy and power and the shots I could make in comparison. Now I wouldn't even bat an eye at a gun only capable of 25 ft lbs for 30 shots, no sound suppression and a plastic crunchy 6 lb trigger got to love advancements.

 

[Pumacarl]

Just 10 years ago, the performance out of short barrels just wasn't possible. Longer barrels and a ton of air consumption was neccessary to get power, but even then projectiles couldn't really hang with too much. Now with slug choices a plenty in all the calibers, it just makes sense that advancements get pushed so we can have powerful yet compact field guns.

I remember when the discovery came out(2008 I think?) And I entered the pcp game for the first time. Coming from multi pumps and springers my whole life, that gun was light years ahead in performance. I remember thinking how crazy it was the accuracy and power and the shots I could make in comparison. Now I wouldn't even bat an eye at a gun only capable of 25 ft lbs for 30 shots, no sound suppression and a plastic crunchy 6 lb trigger got to love advancements.

Well, my first experience with PCP was around 1991, an AR-6 imported by ARS in NY. I didn't realize it back then, but that thing was/is awesome. It is a .22 and came with 26gr pellets, that I would guess now to have been going close to 900fps. I stopped shooting it back then because it was just too damn loud, and a pain to fill. The performance has been around for a while. The TalonP came out in 2004, again, doing over 50fpe, with a 12" barrel, so somebody had figured out how to get power to the pellet fast, 21 years ago, not 10. I don't know why more manufacturers didn't try to compete, better, or match the power these early guns had sooner, but they are all lining up now. The power of the Huben pistol is another incredible example. The big problem early on, to me, was just the noise, if they would have come suppressed I would have gone in whole hog back then, that was the most important advancement. The whole package, that is the Evol Mini HPS, is awesome and here now, because Tom wanted to do it, but the entire industry, seems to have been holding themselves back for some reason. Except for Evanix, they have been doing some really crazy stuff over the years that the airgun forums never talked about much. That was the company that made the AR-6, but they weren't going by that name then. AEA seems to be the new company going for shock and awe, and they aren't holding back on anything either(and they should take a breath). I like AAA's version of innovation better, class and quality.

 

[hameditor]

Agreed, Evanix has produced some remarkable airguns. They always have an amazing new design every year at the IWA show. But somehow they have never quite gained real traction in the market.

 

[Bladebum]

Well, my first experience with PCP was around 1991, an AR-6 imported by ARS in NY. I didn't realize it back then, but that thing was/is awesome. It is a .22 and came with 26gr pellets, that I would guess now to have been going close to 900fps. I stopped shooting it back then because it was just too damn loud, and a pain to fill. The performance has been around for a while. The TalonP came out in 2004, again, doing over 50fpe, with a 12" barrel, so somebody had figured out how to get power to the pellet fast, 21 years ago, not 10. I don't know why more manufacturers didn't try to compete, better, or match the power these early guns had sooner, but they are all lining up now. The power of the Huben pistol is another incredible example. The big problem early on, to me, was just the noise, if they would have come suppressed I would have gone in whole hog back then, that was the most important advancement. The whole package, that is the Evol Mini HPS, is awesome and here now, because Tom wanted to do it, but the entire industry, seems to have been holding themselves back for some reason. Except for Evanix, they have been doing some really crazy stuff over the years that the airgun forums never talked about much. That was the company that made the AR-6, but they weren't going by that name then. AEA seems to be the new company going for shock and awe, and they aren't holding back on anything either(and they should take a breath). I like AAA's version of innovation better, class and quality.

I actually wasn't aware those brands have been around that long. I remember talking to a friend of mine years ago about dirtbikes. He worked for Honda in the 70s and 80s, and told me that they had the technology of the dirtbikes that came out in 2004 back when he worked there.

Maybe the airgun industry is along the same lines. Where they want to hold onto to alot of thier poker cards for some reason.

 

[Pumacarl]

Agreed, Evanix has produced some remarkable airguns. They always have an amazing new design every year at the IWA show. But somehow they have never quite gained real traction in the market.

I am pretty sure, at this point, that they were just there own worst enemy. They never seemed to have much representation or support in this country. Air Rifle Specialists, the importer I got the AR-6 from, had never touched the flimsy white styrofoam in a paper thin cardboard box they sent that gun to me in, either. Luckily for them, the gun itself is rugged. It had to be, you had to put your full weight onto the gun to charge it, via a yoke that you connected to a scuba tank laying on the floor. What a process that was. Thinking back on it, it was quick once set up, probably the quickest way ever to refill a pcp, but you did need to be an adult to have the weight to push the gun down onto the piton. This process meant that even if the barrel had been threaded for a suppressor, you would have had to take it off everytime to charge it. Might have been worth doing, because the noise stopped everyone from using it at all.

I did follow the company, as much as I could, over the years after that. The www had just started big back then which made it a lot easier than reading the few airgun books and magazines that I could get my hands on, and you're right, they came out with cool stuff constantly. Their battery operated automatic actions were pretty over the top. It was interesting reading anyway.

 

[pan60]

Agreed, Evanix has produced some remarkable airguns. They always have an amazing new design every year at the IWA show. But somehow they have never quite gained real traction in the market.

I wider how much of that was related to possibly distributors getting a better mark on something else or a distributor that just didnt get behind the product?

 

[ctshooter]

Agreed, Evanix has produced some remarkable airguns. They always have an amazing new design every year at the IWA show. But somehow they have never quite gained real traction in the market.

I’ve owned several Evanix airguns. They have all been good but not great. I think it’s the refinement of the platform lacking a touch which may be why it never made it in the marketplace. I’ve read plenty of threads from people who really love them so there is some following.

 

[Pumacarl]

I’ve owned several Evanix airguns. They have all been good but not great. I think it’s the refinement of the platform lacking a touch which may be why it never made it in the marketplace. I’ve read plenty of threads from people who really love them so there is some following.

NomadicPirate had, and posted a lot about his collection too. He's moved on to a Huben pistol last I heard. They were definately made for hunting.

 

[ctshooter]

So has anyone placed an order yet?

 

[Slugslinger]

I wonder the reasoning behind offering the HPS Mini first and not the 18in HPS Hunter. Or offer both at the same time ?

 

[Pumacarl]

To anybody that is on the fence about buying an AAA, because of perceived value compared to other more affordable options, when you are actually in the position to buy whatever you want, check out this video. It's not about airguns, but it definately got me thinking that maybe my next airgun should be one made here, again.

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[Airgun-hobbyist]

To anybody that is on the fence about buying an AAA, because of perceived value compared to other more affordable options, when you are actually in the position to buy whatever you want, check out this video. It's not about airguns, but it definately got me thinking that maybe my next airgun should be one made here, again.

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I've invested a lot of money in American Air Arms over the years. As well in other American made brands in my other hobbies. We should always look to supporting products made here, no matter how big or small. Just look back at the time of covid and also when thst ship got stuck in the Panama Canales and the "supply chain" issues that ensued.

 

[pan60]

always been a very big advocate of buying USA and its has gotten more difficult as I age and it saddens me greatly.
some already know but I will say this I save for a fairly lengthy time to get my EVOLs
I my pigs bank is still building up for the next gun : )
supporting USA helps a LOT more then just the gut making the widget.

 

[ctshooter]

To anybody that is on the fence about buying an AAA, because of perceived value compared to other more affordable options, when you are actually in the position to buy whatever you want, check out this video. It's not about airguns, but it definately got me thinking that maybe my next airgun should be one made here, again.

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That is an awesome video. Destin is always very thorough. The comment that really rang through was when JJ said "It's the supply chains - it always goes back to China" in regards to the Indian chain mail.