Others RAW BAD BARREL

[Auto1191]

Got a brand new RAW LRT .22 cal . After initial testing with 33.4 grns @ 922 fps @ 60 yards my best 20 shot group including flyers @ 3 7/8 with the majority being 1 3/4 inch. The 28 grns @ 970 fps 20 shot group @ 2 1/2. The majority being at 1 3/4 inches. The 25 grns right about the same as the 28s. Good enough for hunting but not definitely very satisfing paper puncher. Usually a great target paper puncher will give you a nuch more consistant anticipation of shot impact placement. It is a shame the Raw barrel is so nicely machined. They need to ditch the polygon system

 

[Solo1]

Got a brand new RAW LRT .22 cal . After initial testing with 33.4 grns @ 922 fps @ 60 yards my best 20 shot group including flyers @ 3 7/8 with the majority being 1 3/4 inch. The 28 grns @ 970 fps 20 shot group @ 2 1/2. The majority being at 1 3/4 inches. The 25 grns right about the same as the 28s. Good enough for hunting but not definitely very satisfing paper puncher. Usually a great target paper puncher will give you a nuch more consistant anticipation of shot impact placement. It is a shame the Raw barrel is so nicely machined. They need to ditch the polygon system

Polygon barrels are typically better with slugs. Could it be your form? I know personally i find id harder to shoot slugs extremely precisely than pellets

 

[Auto1191]

Polygon barrels are typically better with slugs. Could it be your form? I know personally i find id harder to shoot slugs extremely precisely than pellets

Raw states the LRT was designed to shoot the 25.39 pellets I sent this rifle to a well renowned Air rifle specialist. He confirmed the barrel was horrible A far cry from being a LRT

 

[Solo1]

Raw states the LRT was designed to shoot the 25.39 pellets

Sorry for some reason i got the impression you were shooting slugs. Poly is good on pellets too. I would suggest you push a pellet through the barrel feeling for rough or very tight spots you could then polish them with jb bore bright as this might help accuracy.

 

[Auto1191]

I removed the barrel & pushed the pellet right through with little to no effort
You have to re-read my orginal post. Thank You I spoke to RAW today they said they wanted me to send the barrel , so they would say , OH there is nothing wrong with it. In my opinion I set this rifle to someone who knows this rifle inside & out. One of the Best in the Business. A true airgun smith

 

[Solo1]

If a pellet went through with little to no resistance the bore is on the large size there should be some resistance and a bit more when you hit the choke about an inch before exiting the barrel

 

[Billm]

I removed the barrel & pushed the pellet right through with little to no effort
You have to re-read my orginal post. Thank You I spoke to RAW today they said they wanted me to send the barrel , so they would say , OH there is nothing wrong with it. In my opinion I set this rifle to someone who knows this rifle inside & out. One of the Best in the Business. A true airgun smith

I wouldn’t count on them doing that. I’m sure RAW knows that some barrels are bad, and wouldn’t want a bad one floating around. I’d send it to them. Note the serial number, so that you know what you’re getting back. Those groups are unacceptable, my $270 Alpha can do better. I complained about a $600 barrel on here and I was given a replacement. I haven’t owned a RAW, but they have a heck of a reputation to protect.

 

[Auto1191]

I wouldn’t count on them doing that. I’m sure RAW knows that some barrels are bad, and wouldn’t want a bad one floating around. I’d send it to them. Note the serial number, so that you know what you’re getting back. Those groups are unacceptable, my $270 Alpha can do better. I complained about a $600 barrel on here and I was given a replacement. I haven’t owned a RAW, but they have a heck of a reputation to protect.

I am glad you saw this post , it is so true, I might still send Rapidair works just the barrel. It has been confirmed a bad barrel & you know my wording is spot on TRUTH BE TOLD I have to be careful of my posts , but they are true. I deleted a post on this forum so I don't get kicked off. I respect the rules

 

[Billm]

I am glad you saw this post , it is so true, I might still send Rapidair works just the barrel. It has been confirmed a bad barrel & you know my wording is spot on TRUTH BE TOLD I have to be careful of my posts , but they are true. I deleted a post on this forum so I don't get kicked off. I respect the rules

I try to respect Mr. Archers forum as well. When I had my own forums for my business, members didn’t always respect the rules and I remember that. I’ve said a few things that I thought would maybe result in at least a soft reprimand, but so far I’ve found HAM to be a refreshing change from most forums or groups. But, back to the topic: please keep us informed on how it goes.

 

[jps2486]

When Martin owned the company, he tested all the barrels shipped to him from LW. They all didn't meet his standards. I wonder if Air Force does the same.

 

[Auto1191]

When Martin owned the company, he tested all the barrels shipped to him from LW. They all didn't meet his standards. I wonder if Air Force does the same.

RAW LRT is completed ! My massaged RAW @ 70 yards 10 shot group , 18 .13 jsb & 910 a .357 Diablo pellett fits inside the clustersd hole. . Center to center is .262 & outside to outside is .462 .' . Now this is truly a LRT RAW. Most RAWS 3/4" groups are acceptable with factory barrel, that is not acceptable for me my opinion. It's now outfitted with a BULL Barrel So the rifle went from shootig 1 inch & 3/4 to .462. I can honestly say I am truly HAPPY The gentlemen who repaired the RAW completed the fabrication & BULL BARREL. yesterday. He himself was pleased with the turn out of the RAW. He is truly 1 of 1 . He is a master @ what he does. As you can tell my reading my posts on this forum I love my BULL BARRELS! I will end by saying TRUTH BE TOLD Mubhaut had the same problem it as well

 

[jps2486]

RAW LRT is completed ! My massaged RAW @ 70 yards 10 shot group , 18 .13 jsb & 910 a .357 Diablo pellett fits inside the clustersd hole. . Center to center is .262 & outside to outside is .462 .' . Now this is truly a LRT RAW. Most RAWS 3/4" groups are acceptable with factory barrel, that is not acceptable for me my opinion. It's now outfitted with a BULL Barrel So the rifle went from shootig 1 inch & 3/4 to .462. I can honestly say I am truly HAPPY The gentlemen who repaired the RAW completed the fabrication & BULL BARREL. yesterday. He himself was pleased with the turn out of the RAW. He is truly 1 of 1 . He is a master @ what he does. As you can tell my reading my posts on this forum I love my BULL BARRELS! I will end by saying TRUTH BE TOLD Mubhaut had the same problem it as well

I like bull barrels too, but to find someone to machine one is difficult. So, I install a couple of rubber Limbsavers to quell the barrel vibration during the shot cycle. Seems to help.

 

[Danman]

RAW LRT is completed ! My massaged RAW @ 70 yards 10 shot group , 18 .13 jsb & 910 a .357 Diablo pellett fits inside the clustersd hole. . Center to center is .262 & outside to outside is .462 .' . Now this is truly a LRT RAW. Most RAWS 3/4" groups are acceptable with factory barrel, that is not acceptable for me my opinion. It's now outfitted with a BULL Barrel So the rifle went from shootig 1 inch & 3/4 to .462. I can honestly say I am truly HAPPY The gentlemen who repaired the RAW completed the fabrication & BULL BARREL. yesterday. He himself was pleased with the turn out of the RAW. He is truly 1 of 1 . He is a master @ what he does. As you can tell my reading my posts on this forum I love my BULL BARRELS! I will end by saying TRUTH BE TOLD Mubhaut had the same problem it as well

Glad you got your Raw sorted, I have a polygonal rifled barrel in my Ghost and it will consistently put 5 groups of 5 shots (25.39gr pellets) into a 2-2.5inch square @ 100Y. Everything else i own seems to be 12 land & groove L.W. barrel and they excel at closer ranges.
You definitely had a bad barrel on your Raw and I too would be unhappy with those results, esp for pesting!....I'd probably completely miss a starling or squirrel @ 60Y if It was shooting 2.5inches groups! A pic or two of your new Raw wouldn't kill us.

 

[Auto1191]

 

[Auto1191]

These are some of the pictures of the grouping with an autograph from the legend himself
Allen Zasadny. AKA AZ

 

[Fishing 43]

Glad to see you on ham

 

[Auto1191]

Glad to see you on ham

Thank You very much, my pleasure. I will most more pics in the future, That 's what we all love looking @

 

[igolfat8]

Congrats. What brand is your bull barrel?

 

[Auto1191]

Congrats. What brand is your bull barrel?

HYBRID ( FXSTX)Barrel inserted & Bonded into a larger stiffer barrel. 0 POI what so ever, AZ has been doing this for a long time & it has been a proven recipe. FX is late coming to the party with their BULL BARREL. That they are having issues with it. AZ knocks it out of the park THE word HYBRID is AZ wording , I can't take credit for that, but that is what he calls it & it works. AZ also re-did my .22 FX Crown from .22 to .177 with a True solid barrel, that is lights out, , Last is my THOMAS . in .177 to .22 , & when I tell you it is PHENOMINAL it truly is with all of AZ custom work on hand made Acessories (BLING) it is out of this WORLD

 

[Woogie_man]

How old is AZ at this point?

Would love to get ahold of him and send a few guns to get those barrels on a few rifles.