My EscapeSS .22

[JimT66]

I have a Condor in .22, and an EscapeSS with a Condor tank in .22. Decided I really needed one in .25, especially since I have numerous other .22 pcp's, and wanted the ability to put out much more Ft.Lbs of energy for close to medium range Coyotes and trash pandas. Ordered and got my new Lother barrel last week, and built up the nerve to attempt replacement today. No...I am not mechanical, above the most minor of stuff anyway. Even after a couple of pep talks I was still nervous about it. Well, got it done. Little longer than 5 minutes, but simple enough. Could do another in 5 or less! Anyway, test fired on power wheel level 3, using JTS 25 grain pellets. Good lord! Comparatively speaking, its a cannon. Waiting on special order slugs Saturday for site zero and chrony checks. Can't hardly wait.

 

[PapaT]

See, we knew you could do it and now you know you can do it! But I understand the need for pep talk.

 

[JimT66]

See, we knew you could do it and now you know you can do it! But I understand the need for pep talk.

Yeah, my usual would be fire 1 shot and it fly apart on me, or blow the air tank off,lol. Luckily it was a pretty simple affair

 

[Pumacarl]

I was a little nervous about getting the sequence down right myself, the first time I took the barrel out. Luckily, the Air Force YouTube channel had a video for it. It's really easy when you're just following along.

 

[SpindleB]

Now take it the next level, regulator with plenum. Huben Power Cricket Max-ATH.
.25 24" barrel is 19cc volume
optimal would be 60-80cc, but 50cc is still good.

You think it is a cannon now, set the regulator at 2500psi with a Max-ATH and push pellets over 1,000fps. Be able to drop reg pressure under 2000psi and get 850-930 depending on pellet.

 

[JimT66]

I was a little nervous about getting the sequence down right myself, the first time I took the barrel out. Luckily, the Air Force YouTube channel had a video for it. It's really easy when you're just following along.

It does make a big difference don't it!

 

[JimT66]

I was a little nervous about getting the sequence down right myself, the first time I took the barrel out. Luckily, the Air Force YouTube channel had a video for it. It's really easy when you're just following along.

They have an AirForce channel? Lol, hell I had no idea. I watched video of some fella changing his red Condor (which I have one), barrel. But it sure worked. Thanks Mike, Chief!

 

[JimT66]

I was a little nervous about getting the sequence down right myself, the first time I took the barrel out. Luckily, the Air Force YouTube channel had a video for it. It's really easy when you're just following along.

They have an AirForce channel? Lol, hell I had no idea. I watched video of some fella changing his red Condor (which I have one), barrel. But it sure worked. Thanks Mike, Chief

Now take it the next level, regulator with plenum. Huben Power Cricket Max-ATH.
.25 24" barrel is 19cc volume
optimal would be 60-80cc, but 50cc is still good.

You think it is a cannon now, set the regulator at 2500psi with a Max-ATH and push pellets over 1,000fps. Be able to drop reg pressure under 2000psi and get 850-930 depending on pellet.

My Condor has that! It gets a buttload of shots turned down, and the .22 pellets are still zipping along at Panda and yote killing speeds with my 33 grain JBS's. Turn her up a hair. And it will blast the 40 grain slugs at "ludicrous speed", capable of taking out any large pest that it needs to here on the mountain! That's why I didn't change out her barrel. With her long barrel even in .22, she makes a fine long range crow killer.

 

[SpindleB]

They have an AirForce channel? Lol, hell I had no idea. I watched video of some fella changing his red Condor (which I have one), barrel. But it sure worked. Thanks Mike, Chief

My Condor has that! It gets a buttload of shots turned down, and the .22 pellets are still zipping along at Panda and yote killing speeds with my 33 grain JBS's. Turn her up a hair. And it will blast the 40 grain slugs at "ludicrous speed", capable of taking out any large pest that it needs to here on the mountain! That's why I didn't change out her barrel. With her long barrel even in .22, she makes a fine long range crow killer.

I have multiple plenum setups with different regulator settings. I swap out for the settings I plan to shoot. If we have seen raccoons then I go .25 @ 2500psi for 1050FPS. Plinking is 1750psi and 850-925 FPS, depending on pellet weight

 

[JimT66]

I have multiple plenum setups with different regulator settings. I swap out for the settings I plan to shoot. If we have seen raccoons then I go .25 @ 2500psi for 1050FPS. Plinking is 1750psi and 850-925 FPS, depending on pellet weight

We always got trash pandas and armadillos. Skunks too, just fewer than the pandas. I don't even bother adjusting the Condor, just leave it on 3.5 on the power wheel. It still gets a whole Lotta shots. And I would hate to turn it down to plink, and forget to bump her back up if a critter came calling, or another yote especially!
I did notice yesterday that my EscapeSS uses lot more air than my regulated Condor does, course suppose that's to be expected since it's unregulated and now a .25 cal.

 

[SpindleB]

We always got trash pandas and armadillos. Skunks too, just fewer than the pandas. I don't even bother adjusting the Condor, just leave it on 3.5 on the power wheel. It still gets a whole Lotta shots. And I would hate to turn it down to plink, and forget to bump her back up if a critter came calling, or another yote especially!
I did notice yesterday that my EscapeSS uses lot more air than my regulated Condor does, course suppose that's to be expected since it's unregulated and now a .25 cal.

I have 3 of these


And 3 of these



Only 4 of 6 have the 1.1L bottle. The high power have 0.5 or 0.48l bottles.
If I have one of the AirForce on the tripod I just swap over to high power in the evening. They can have smaller bottles because they dont get fired much.

 

[JimT66]

I have 3 of these
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Only 4 of 6 have the 1.1L bottle. The high power have 0.5 or 0.48l bottles.
If I have one of the AirForce on the tripod I just swap over to high power in the evening. They can have smaller bottles because they dont get fired much.

Man, you all set up! Mine just have the standard Condor bottles. The Condor itself being the regulated one. I am thinking seriously about buying a scuba tank though to carry with. I wish I wouldda kept all my dive equipment when I was part of the recovery team at the PD. Made things simple. Lol. I got an email yesterday from Shin. Shine? They have excellent prices on cricket regulators and bottles. Do you know anything about them?

 

[SpindleB]

Man, you all set up! Mine just have the standard Condor bottles. The Condor itself being the regulated one. I am thinking seriously about buying a scuba tank though to carry with. I wish I wouldda kept all my dive equipment when I was part of the recovery team at the PD. Made things simple. Lol. I got an email yesterday from Shin. Shine? They have excellent prices on cricket regulators and bottles. Do you know anything about them?

Nope, I dealt with Huben Power direct from their web site. Tried to use Alibaba but the person there was an arse.

But if it is like AliExpress they may be knockoff Crickets.

The 20CM Shan Bao tubes come from AliExpress. The bottles both AliExpress and Alibaba. That fat 1.1L is usually around $100. When AliExpress has sales (like now) you can save $10. Then there is "coins" on AliExpress, extra 11% off. Takes a while to build up a stash at $0.01 each. I've paid as little as $75 for the 1.1l bottle.

The angle adapter comes from Trajectron in India. Lots of AirForce upgrades, ship DHL for $17 and arrive usually in less than a week.

There are US reps for Huben Power, Hajimoto, High Power Pneumatics, Alien Airguns (ebay) and Palm Beach Airguns.

 

[Chief 10-Beers]

Is that Huben Cricket Regulator really worth the expense? What are everyone's Feelings on it?

 

[SpindleB]

Is that Huben Cricket Regulator really worth the expense? What are everyone's Feelings on it?

The Cricket Max-ATH with the 50cc plenum on AirForce Condor/Talon/Escape allows you to dial the regulator pressure way down for lots more shots. My .22 Talon I run at 1500psi and shoot Barracuda Match 21gr at 850FPS. My .25 Talon and Condor I run at 1750psi and get 850-930FPS depending on pellet weight.

The .22 is 18" barrel, both .25 are 24" barrel.

My 120cc plenum with U adapter use the regulator 1/2 of a standard Cricket. The tube and the regulator are m28x1.0. The top half of the Cricket just unscrews.

 

[JimT66]

Nope, I dealt with Huben Power direct from their web site. Tried to use Alibaba but the person there was an arse.

But if it is like AliExpress they may be knockoff Crickets.

The 20CM Shan Bao tubes come from AliExpress. The bottles both AliExpress and Alibaba. That fat 1.1L is usually around $100. When AliExpress has sales (like now) you can save $10. Then there is "coins" on AliExpress, extra 11% off. Takes a while to build up a stash at $0.01 each. I've paid as little as $75 for the 1.1l bottle.

The angle adapter comes from Trajectron in India. Lots of AirForce upgrades, ship DHL for $17 and arrive usually in less than a week.

There are US reps for Huben Power, Hajimoto, High Power Pneumatics, Alien Airguns (ebay) and Palm Beach Airguns.

Ohh cool. Thanks for the list. Lot rather deal with those in U.S. am leery of places like Ali and the others.

 

[SpindleB]

There are US reps for Huben Power, Hajimoto, High Power Pneumatics, Alien Airguns (ebay) and Palm Beach Airguns.

Looks like only High Pressure Pneumatics has the Max-ATH. The others seem focused on the Notos regulators.

 

[JimT66]

The Cricket Max-ATH with the 50cc plenum on AirForce Condor/Talon/Escape allows you to dial the regulator pressure way down for lots more shots. My .22 Talon I run at 1500psi and shoot Barracuda Match 21gr at 850FPS. My .25 Talon and Condor I run at 1750psi and get 850-930FPS depending on pellet weight.

The .22 is 18" barrel, both .25 are 24" barrel.

My 120cc plenum with U adapter use the regulator 1/2 of a standard Cricket. The tube and the regulator are m28x1.0. The top half of the Cricket just unscrews.

So. If I get the bottle, I would just screw the regulator into the threads on the top? I got mine from Chief, here on Ham. It was already done by him. So going beyond barrel change is whole new world to me.

 

[JimT66]

Looks like only High Pressure Pneumatics has the Max-ATH. The others seem focused on the Notos regulators.

I'm happy with my Notos, just the way it is. Cranked up a couple turns it kills just fine. Rabbits, tree rats and ground rats.

 

[JimT66]

See, we knew you could do it and now you know you can do it! But I understand the need for pep talk.

PapaT, you have a 2240?