Others Heavy AAA build thoughts

[Woogie_man]

I am playing with different ideas guys and wondering what you guys think.

Having just got done shooting both my RimX and my Paradigm yesterday, one thing really jumped out at me. The weight of both the rifles! The RimX is close to 18 pounds without the magazine or any bipod or bag attached to the rifle. Where the Paradigm is NOWHERE near this weight, and this got me to thinking about adding weight to the rifle. A heavy solid rifle makes getting in position and maintaining a shooting position much easier. Now I already have added an Arca rail to the front of the rifle to help with bipods and tripods. But I am wanting to ADD more weight to really settle the rifle down when shooting.

I am not finding anything on google or anything like that for what I am thinking. I was thinking of something like a square tube that will be modified to fit around the bottom and sides of the rifle. Then attaching the Arca rail to the bottom for the attachments again, but then also giving mounting options for weights on the side of the rifle and possibly on the underside as well. Not looking to add much height to the rifle as I will still need to fit the rifle in barricades and props. I am thinking either of the tube or getting three sections of steel and milling out spots and making a "U" channel that will be able to added to and modified as needed.

So I am wondering if you guys can come up with any other ideas or ways that we can add weight to either the Evols or the Paradigm rifles. We all know Tom is working on getting out the new HPS models so something that we could use on those as well. I know not everyone would want a 15+ pound rifle for every day use, but for a purpose built match gun it would do the trick.

So lets see those big brains of yours ........

 

[Dairyboy]

Redneck but added 2.5lbs to my mini for longer range shooting. Huge help. Use it on my Tikka T1X .22lr build also

I'm trying to envision what you mean but coming up short. Your thinking U channel metal to wrap around your stock and come up around it?

 

[Airgun-hobbyist]

If I had that beautiful wood stock instead of adulterating it and beating it up on the barricades I would either commission Tom to make me a new chassis for the receiver and accompanying air tube length with the M-Lock attachment slots, or I would just give him the loot for a new HPS. (Personally, I would support his business and future models and just buy another AAA product.)

 

[Woogie_man]

Yeah, think of it as forend armor for the stock. The bottom of the channel would be at the bottom of the stock and the vertical arms will come up about 60-75% of the height.

I will get some pictures or something up soon.

But yes I don't want to scratch up the stock to much. The addition of the arca rail has helped, but need the added weight.

 

[Woogie_man]

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Redneck but added 2.5lbs to my mini for longer range shooting. Huge help. Use it on my Tikka T1X .22lr build also
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I'm trying to envision what you mean but coming up short. Your thinking U channel metal to wrap around your stock and come up around it?

I like that weight! Redneck engineering but it works, that's my kind of thinking

 

[Woogie_man]

If I had that beautiful wood stock instead of adulterating it and beating it up on the barricades I would either commission Tom to make me a new chassis for the receiver and accompanying air tube length with the M-Lock attachment slots, or I would just give him the loot for a new HPS. (Personally, I would support his business and future models and just buy another AAA product.)

That is the reason for the HPS nrl version. Honestly I shouldn't be using the gun for NRL22, but it is a rifle to be used and not a safe queen. I know that bothers some people quite a bit.

 

[Airgun-hobbyist]

Here's what the hobbyist in me came up with for balance and beauty to compliment both styles of chassis... For your wood stock Paradigm, I would buy a couple of appropriate sized pieces of brass from Alro Steel or the like and then spend a day drilling, cutting, filing and sanding (because I don't have a mill) and fit the brass up to match these two spots. The bottom fore end would cover the length and width of the wood, and maybe curl the front stock some. The back of the stock would have a piece made to match the profile and the gap in the cheek riser. Now with an aluminum tube chassis Evol, I would probably just buy someone else's already made weights for the front, and buy or cast a lead bar that fits inside of the buffer tube (for weight and balance).

 

[Woogie_man]

That was one option I was thinking of, though the forend I was going to see if I could fit the weights internally. Have to remove the action to see if there are slots cut inside the forend.

Could extend the front past the wood and make a small cavity to add some brass for forward weight.

I do like the idea under the cheek riser! And I do have access to a mill at work, so could make quick work of the metal.

 

[Airenthusiast]

What about this? It's 23.6oz

 

[Woogie_man]

Was looking at those, but not sure if that will add enough weight to the rifle. And I could make something like that as well, all be it nothing as clean as the 419.

 

[Airgun-hobbyist]

There's a lot of room here for a piece of brass bar stock to be inlaid and a slot made for connecting to a 'pod head. With an even bigger piece for the weight you're wanting, starting around 1×2×12 a bar, you could machine out the inside of the bar stock so that it inlaid/mounted into the current aluminum rail's spot, and rolled up around the sides and front of the wood stock, floating and yet fitting the wood like a glove.

 

[Dairyboy]

I like that weight! Redneck engineering but it works, that's my kind of thinking

Thanks redneck is what I'm good at lol. I like your idea of the U channel. Could be a slick idea. If you could do the brass though I think it'd look great on that stock!

 

[CTAirgunner]

This is very strange as I was just thinking about scooping another paradigm @Woogie_man to build for PRS, but in .30, To shoot the hybrids. I just need to come up with the funds for it! Lifes been kicking my ass this past month.

I can't wait for the new HPS models, and will still likely buy one when they come out but nothing in sight for NAC so gotta do something.

 

[Woogie_man]

Exactly. I love the Paradigm but there is apart of me that cringes when slamming the rifle against props. Thus the though of Paradigm Armor. Lol

 

[CTAirgunner]

Exactly. I love the Paradigm but there is apart of me that cringes when slamming the rifle against props. Thus the though of Paradigm Armor. Lol

I don't have armor in mind but I have a few things in mind for it. I know the Steve Corcoran stocks are a work of art but I am not buying my rifles to wall hang, do I take utmost care of them? Yes, but they are tools and it is inevitable that they will be damaged somehow.

 

[Woogie_man]

Agreed. Though it does feel a little dirty to bang it around so much. Lol

I am going to draw something up this afternoon after work. Would like something that will follow the lines of the stock, but weigh around 7 lbs or so, then put 3 lbs in the rear

 

[mr007s]

I have been considering adding some weight to my EVOL. Having read many threads on the net It sounds like a good idea and will improve accursary/ groups. Most threads lean to adding to the butt but with the full front rail on the EVOL it would be simple to add and change weights as I field test this idea.
My, as of now plan, is to remove the butt stock to access the buffer tube, I would roll out an amount of Duct Seal to the required diameter and cover it with saran wrap. I would need to make sure it wont interfere with anything which I dont believe it will. I have not measured how long the buffer tube is and the amount of weight would be. I am thinking around 1 pound or a tad more.
So, what are your thoughts here, good or bad, looking for advice. A 1 pound bipod is fastened to the barrel rail right now to see if It helps or hurts.

 

[CTAirgunner]

If you have a tac version, the MDT stock options weigh quite a bit, they also sell weighted inserts for the stocks. I had one, I can tell you they definitely add some heft.

 

[mr007s]

If you have a tac version, the MDT stock options weigh quite a bit, they also sell weighted inserts for the stocks. I had one, I can tell you they definitely add some heft.

It is the 22 cal Tac with 18 inch barrel

 

[CTAirgunner]

It is the 22 cal Tac with 18 inch barrel

https://mdttac.com/mdt-srs-skeleton-rifle-stock/

This weighs at least twice what you have on there now, and they sell weights to install in the skeleton voids.