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PCP The Vectis Report

Pumacarl

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I am going to start this thread so that I don't always have to start a new one, and as a way to keep people apprised of my exploits with my Vectis, my most surprising airgun that I have ever owned by far.

I bought it for next to nothing, it has cost me nothing to own, it never changes it's shooting behavior, and is as accurate as anything that I read about on these forums (for a hunting gun, Soren's RW is other worldly). It's a total win, unless you can't put up with the fact that it is a little ugly, and plastic, and a Hatsan, but that would just be your problem, not mine, because this thing shoots lights out. Being unregulated, the first shot is a good shot too.

Even I am still amazed by just how well it works. I did just finally re-seal it after many years, but only the fill nipple really needed a new oring, the rest I replaced just because. The only thing that I changed on it was to saw off the muzzle brake and screw on a Tanto. I recently made the move from NSA 12.5gr slugs to JSB KO 10.03gr slugs @965fps, not for accuracy reasons, both can do .75" groups at 75y, but for expansion on Starlings. The NSA were ice-picking them, but the JSB blow up! I do give up the higher b.c. of the NSA, and it is noticeable, but the on target performance is more important. If they aren't dropped on the spot they can fly to a very steep and high roof and die and clog the gutters. Not good. If you think the gun is ugly you should see what that looks like.

Today, I had the opportunity to take out a particularly smart pair of Starlings that have been eluding me for a while, and the Vectis did not fail. I did fail, on the first shot, at 40y high up in a maple tree. The bird was behind a branch and wouldn't expose himself, so I shot the branch, which was under 1/2" thick and I thought it might just work. He flew to the tree behind, up higher still, and now a 75y shot, but he was in the open. He died with a very loud pop! About two hours later the mate showed up looking for the other and I reunited them. I'm thoughtful that way.

"PCP's are too expensive, finding the right slug is impossible and they're not as good as a pellet under a 100y " -Bull$h!t,
on all counts.
 
"PCP's are too expensive, finding the right slug is impossible and they're not as good as a pellet under a 100y " -Bull$h!t,
on all counts.


I think that a lot of the issues that kept people away from budget PCP were mainly user error as they are affordable to EVERYONE , including the "not so bright".

The second part of that statement is true but I do find it much easier for people to accomplish their goals with pellets... I will also say that if people are not actually measuring group size and only looking at what it "looks like" , especially when using a splatter target, the pellet group will always look better even if the slug group is slightly smaller, slugs ice pick (your term) the targets, pellets leave a bigger more appealing overall mark.

I actually experienced that with my texan .257 , the groups looked more open, but actually measured smaller.
 
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I think that a lot of the issues that kept people away from budget PCP were mainly user error as they are affordable to EVERYONE , including the "not so bright".

The second part of that statement is true but I do find it much easier for people to accomplish their goals with pellets... I will also say that if people are not actually measuring group size and only looking at what it "looks like" , especially when using a splatter target, the pellet group will always look better even if the slug group is slightly smaller, slugs ice pick (your term) the targets, pellets leave a bigger more appealing overall mark.

I actually experienced that with my texan .257 , the groups looked more open, but actually measured smaller.
Pellets are absolutely w-a-y easier, no doubt about that, and finding a good slug can be very hard, but not impossible. The point is that it is worth spending the time and money to find a good slug, especially with the wind pushing pellets all over the place. Unless, of course, that you purposely want to limit yourself to 25y in your backyard, but discussing that isn't interesting to me at all, and is out of context to what I'm talking about. Slugs, and inexpensive pcp airguns, can move your capabilities up to the next caliber level, from where they were just ten years ago. That is very cool!
 
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"Lies are bad enough, but these are stupid lies!"
It's funny how hard it really is to get people to believe that some Hatsans do shoot well, let alone excellent. Whatever, I bought this gun after having already tested out a Flashpup that was accurate too, and AEAC did a review on it and never mentioned that the gun's receiver was solid plastic. I was pretty mad about that. I bought it thinking that it was never going to hold up, and I was going to prove it. The only thing I proved is that I was wrong.

I am not a Hatsan fanboy. I don't think this is the budget .177 that I would suggest anyone to get either, unless you really like lever actions, then yeah it's a no-brainer. It is kind of heavy, and you do need to cut off the ridiculously bad muzzlebrake and screw on your own moderator. Some other value pcp's come light and ready to shoot. But, if you like a little bit of heft, a super tough polymer exterior, and a lever action that is very accurate, for very little money, it is a great pester. I am getting the great accuracy because I am limiting myself to one magazine (14) by filling to 2600psi and my hs adjusted for about 21fpe. I don't use it as a plinker at all, that is not its strong suit, it's more of a hunter to me. It has a small air capacity for the power I'm shooting at, which kills it for plinking fun too, but makes it easy to handpump. A worthwhile trade off to me, and probably to others who don't want to get a compressor.
 
We are heading towards July and I feel that I should update this thread. The latest news is contented boredom. There just isn't that many Starlings around anymore. I guess we don't live in the Matrix and the game isn't going to reset itself any time soon. I probably only shot five Starlings in the past six weeks. The K.O.'s work perfectly, not a fly off yet! The gun just hangs by it's sling, and when called upon, hits. No warm up shots, just bang, dead.

The Report's Good!
 
We are heading towards July and I feel that I should update this thread. The latest news is contented boredom. There just isn't that many Starlings around anymore. I guess we don't live in the Matrix and the game isn't going to reset itself any time soon. I probably only shot five Starlings in the past six weeks. The K.O.'s work perfectly, not a fly off yet! The gun just hangs by it's sling, and when called upon, hits. No warm up shots, just bang, dead.

The Report's Good!
That sounds about like my late Hatsan FlashPup( late because somebody wanted it & was happily re-homed). It never gave me any issues either, other than the little bolt being hard to cock. And, my starling shooting has slowed a bit too.
 
I am going to start this thread so that I don't always have to start a new one, and as a way to keep people apprised of my exploits with my Vectis, my most surprising airgun that I have ever owned by far.

I bought it for next to nothing, it has cost me nothing to own, it never changes it's shooting behavior, and is as accurate as anything that I read about on these forums (for a hunting gun, Soren's RW is other worldly). It's a total win, unless you can't put up with the fact that it is a little ugly, and plastic, and a Hatsan, but that would just be your problem, not mine, because this thing shoots lights out. Being unregulated, the first shot is a good shot too.

Even I am still amazed by just how well it works. I did just finally re-seal it after many years, but only the fill nipple really needed a new oring, the rest I replaced just because. The only thing that I changed on it was to saw off the muzzle brake and screw on a Tanto. I recently made the move from NSA 12.5gr slugs to JSB KO 10.03gr slugs @965fps, not for accuracy reasons, both can do .75" groups at 75y, but for expansion on Starlings. The NSA were ice-picking them, but the JSB blow up! I do give up the higher b.c. of the NSA, and it is noticeable, but the on target performance is more important. If they aren't dropped on the spot they can fly to a very steep and high roof and die and clog the gutters. Not good. If you think the gun is ugly you should see what that looks like.

Today, I had the opportunity to take out a particularly smart pair of Starlings that have been eluding me for a while, and the Vectis did not fail. I did fail, on the first shot, at 40y high up in a maple tree. The bird was behind a branch and wouldn't expose himself, so I shot the branch, which was under 1/2" thick and I thought it might just work. He flew to the tree behind, up higher still, and now a 75y shot, but he was in the open. He died with a very loud pop! About two hours later the mate showed up looking for the other and I reunited them. I'm thoughtful that way.

"PCP's are too expensive, finding the right slug is impossible and they're not as good as a pellet under a 100y " -Bull$h!t,
on all counts.
Vectis is the lever action version of the Flash. Which as far as I am concerned is the best starter rifle. Nuts on accuracy, reliable as almost any pcp rifle (excluding AirForce) and easy to maintain.

Never shot my flash more than my 40-45 yards out back. But it was a great squirrel gun. My only issue was the small air tube

I love lever action, have a Shin Sung Career 707. But my favorite rifle ever Savage model 99 (stolen). Side lever is easier but there is just something about lever action i love. Probably from watching The Rifleman as a kid.
 
Vectis is the lever action version of the Flash. Which as far as I am concerned is the best starter rifle. Nuts on accuracy, reliable as almost any pcp rifle (excluding AirForce) and easy to maintain.

Never shot my flash more than my 40-45 yards out back. But it was a great squirrel gun. My only issue was the small air tube

I love lever action, have a Shin Sung Career 707. But my favorite rifle ever Savage model 99 (stolen). Side lever is easier but there is just something about lever action i love. Probably from watching The Rifleman as a kid.
I very much blame the rifleman for my love of lever actions, and I won't apologize for it.
 
Vectis is the lever action version of the Flash. Which as far as I am concerned is the best starter rifle. Nuts on accuracy, reliable as almost any pcp rifle (excluding AirForce) and easy to maintain.

Never shot my flash more than my 40-45 yards out back. But it was a great squirrel gun. My only issue was the small air tube

I love lever action, have a Shin Sung Career 707. But my favorite rifle ever Savage model 99 (stolen). Side lever is easier but there is just something about lever action i love. Probably from watching The Rifleman as a kid.
Actually, being made completely from polymer, I think it's made better. The internals definately look better than a flash. I had a flashpup too, and it was accurate to beat the band, but my God, the internal machining was terrible. The polymer Vectis looks great. Because of where the trees are, where I pest, half of my shots are between 50-75y and this is no problem for this gun. I had shot quite a few Starlings with pellets out to 60y too, but the slugs really changed the game, and this gun loves them.
 
Time once again for another update in the Vectis saga after an eventful moment earlier this week. Todays story is one of lessons learned, success, and horror, and finishing off with a heavy sigh of relief.

So, I'm looking out the window and I see a bunny coming out of the flower bed. We now have holes all over the place but hardly ever see the rabbits. It is a very nice day and this guy thinks he's going to get a pass, -wrong! My Vectis has not fired a shot for a couple of weeks at this point, it has been just sitting, waiting, and holding air beautifully I noticed. Good. I grabbed my range finder (lesson learned), opened my Strelok app in my phone and selected the right gun, to be ready and not have to fumble around when the time comes (another lesson learned) and head out to get the interloper.

I couldn't find him at first but finally caught sight of him by the garden shed looking away from me. I have time to do everything right. I range him, only 8y away. I actually have more trouble with the shots under 15y than over, another lesson learned. Strelok says U3.9mrad, ok. I aim right for the back of the head. I'm shooting the JSB KO MK3 10.03gr slug at 965fps, and POP! This little bunny did one of the most energetic death dances that I have ever seen, and it lasted a while, and it was getting blood all over the white painted shed. I'm just waiting for it to finally stop before walking over. I thought that I probably grazed its head and that's why it taking so long to stop. After an improbably long 30 seconds of flopping around, it stops and I walk over.

At first I don't even understand what I am exactly looking at. Where the head should be doesn't look right, and there is a strip of skin off to the side, but where is the top of the head? You guessed it right, if you thought gone. I hit exactly where I aimed and the little slug behaved more like a .17HMR projectile than something fired from a pellet gun, let alone a 21fpe .177. I didn't think that an airgun could do the kind of damage that I saw. I did not take a picture. No way. I don't want that circulating around the net. I blew the top of the head completely off and split it open right down to the tip of the nose. There were no brains in there, everything was gone or hanging off the side, and this animal was fully thrashing around for at least 30 seconds, which is a long time, considering. Very horrific, but necessary. The animal certainly didn't know what hit him, and that's what I'm relieved about. I had to put down a beloved pet five years ago, that I didn't take any chances on, and used a firearm, barrel touching, and got a similar death dance. I had thought that I had screwed up, somehow, but after seeing this example I know now that wasn't the case. I have been extremely pissed off at myself over that shot and just now I can finally let that go, I'm over it. I had read a lot of articles about the death kicks but never really believed them completely, chickens yeah, mammals no. Well, I do now.

Back to the Vectis, for all you slug hold outs, get over over it, pellets don't do what this little slug did, or does.
 
The saga continues .... Bad News! My Vectis lost zero. Good News! This was the first time.

I'm not sure if it was putting it up on a shelf and rough handling, or just because the rails are plastic, but it did shift. I checked the scope mounts and I did need to tighten them a little bit. That's the first time that I have had to do that and I have had four other scopes on this gun before, though this scope is the biggest. It was easy to get back on target. It's too bad that I had to miss a rabbit to find out my scope was off, which was so out of character that I didn't believe it to be the gun, but rather me. Until I missed another rabbit 30 seconds later, and then I knew something was up. Anyway, problem solved. Now I am aware that this could be an issue, so I will watch for it. I should have used loctite on the scope threads now that I'm thinking about it. Usually, on pcp's, I don't bother, but on this gun I think that it's going to need it. A chink in the armor? Maybe, but it took a long time to show up and it is ultimately a manageable problem. So not really a problem at all.
 
Break time is over, the starlings are back and it was time to get back to working on them. I have not shot the Vectis for many months but it still had all the air that I had put into it late last fall. I had almost shot a starling last week, in one particular tree that they like to nest in, but I never got the shot. It flew off before I had a chance. Today I got the chance, three actually, all drt, still not one fly off from a hit with the JSB KO Mk3 10.03gr slug. That is pretty damn good to leave a gun sitting out all winter and the first shot out of it, on a starling up in a tree 45y away, SMACK!, no death glide or hop, just straight down to the ground. The other two were the same. None of my uber guns could have done it any better. I'm really happy with having this gun around ready for starlings, no drama, it just works. If it's aired up in the zone, it hits poa, unless the scope mounts loosen up like they did last year. They stayed tight. I remembered after the fact that I didn't loctite the screws, but so far so good. No complaints at all with the gun itself though, all praise.
 

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