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PCP The Vectis Report

Pumacarl

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I am going to start this thread so that I don't always have to start a new one, and as a way to keep people apprised of my exploits with my Vectis, my most surprising airgun that I have ever owned by far.

I bought it for next to nothing, it has cost me nothing to own, it never changes it's shooting behavior, and is as accurate as anything that I read about on these forums (for a hunting gun, Soren's RW is other worldly). It's a total win, unless you can't put up with the fact that it is a little ugly, and plastic, and a Hatsan, but that would just be your problem, not mine, because this thing shoots lights out. Being unregulated, the first shot is a good shot too.

Even I am still amazed by just how well it works. I did just finally re-seal it after many years, but only the fill nipple really needed a new oring, the rest I replaced just because. The only thing that I changed on it was to saw off the muzzle brake and screw on a Tanto. I recently made the move from NSA 12.5gr slugs to JSB KO 10.03gr slugs @965fps, not for accuracy reasons, both can do .75" groups at 75y, but for expansion on Starlings. The NSA were ice-picking them, but the JSB blow up! I do give up the higher b.c. of the NSA, and it is noticeable, but the on target performance is more important. If they aren't dropped on the spot they can fly to a very steep and high roof and die and clog the gutters. Not good. If you think the gun is ugly you should see what that looks like.

Today, I had the opportunity to take out a particularly smart pair of Starlings that have been eluding me for a while, and the Vectis did not fail. I did fail, on the first shot, at 40y high up in a maple tree. The bird was behind a branch and wouldn't expose himself, so I shot the branch, which was under 1/2" thick and I thought it might just work. He flew to the tree behind, up higher still, and now a 75y shot, but he was in the open. He died with a very loud pop! About two hours later the mate showed up looking for the other and I reunited them. I'm thoughtful that way.

"PCP's are too expensive, finding the right slug is impossible and they're not as good as a pellet under a 100y " -Bull$h!t,
on all counts.
 
"PCP's are too expensive, finding the right slug is impossible and they're not as good as a pellet under a 100y " -Bull$h!t,
on all counts.


I think that a lot of the issues that kept people away from budget PCP were mainly user error as they are affordable to EVERYONE , including the "not so bright".

The second part of that statement is true but I do find it much easier for people to accomplish their goals with pellets... I will also say that if people are not actually measuring group size and only looking at what it "looks like" , especially when using a splatter target, the pellet group will always look better even if the slug group is slightly smaller, slugs ice pick (your term) the targets, pellets leave a bigger more appealing overall mark.

I actually experienced that with my texan .257 , the groups looked more open, but actually measured smaller.
 
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I think that a lot of the issues that kept people away from budget PCP were mainly user error as they are affordable to EVERYONE , including the "not so bright".

The second part of that statement is true but I do find it much easier for people to accomplish their goals with pellets... I will also say that if people are not actually measuring group size and only looking at what it "looks like" , especially when using a splatter target, the pellet group will always look better even if the slug group is slightly smaller, slugs ice pick (your term) the targets, pellets leave a bigger more appealing overall mark.

I actually experienced that with my texan .257 , the groups looked more open, but actually measured smaller.
Pellets are absolutely w-a-y easier, no doubt about that, and finding a good slug can be very hard, but not impossible. The point is that it is worth spending the time and money to find a good slug, especially with the wind pushing pellets all over the place. Unless, of course, that you purposely want to limit yourself to 25y in your backyard, but discussing that isn't interesting to me at all, and is out of context to what I'm talking about. Slugs, and inexpensive pcp airguns, can move your capabilities up to the next caliber level, from where they were just ten years ago. That is very cool!
 
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"Lies are bad enough, but these are stupid lies!"
It's funny how hard it really is to get people to believe that some Hatsans do shoot well, let alone excellent. Whatever, I bought this gun after having already tested out a Flashpup that was accurate too, and AEAC did a review on it and never mentioned that the gun's receiver was solid plastic. I was pretty mad about that. I bought it thinking that it was never going to hold up, and I was going to prove it. The only thing I proved is that I was wrong.

I am not a Hatsan fanboy. I don't think this is the budget .177 that I would suggest anyone to get either, unless you really like lever actions, then yeah it's a no-brainer. It is kind of heavy, and you do need to cut off the ridiculously bad muzzlebrake and screw on your own moderator. Some other value pcp's come light and ready to shoot. But, if you like a little bit of heft, a super tough polymer exterior, and a lever action that is very accurate, for very little money, it is a great pester. I am getting the great accuracy because I am limiting myself to one magazine (14) by filling to 2600psi and my hs adjusted for about 21fpe. I don't use it as a plinker at all, that is not its strong suit, it's more of a hunter to me. It has a small air capacity for the power I'm shooting at, which kills it for plinking fun too, but makes it easy to handpump. A worthwhile trade off to me, and probably to others who don't want to get a compressor.
 
We are heading towards July and I feel that I should update this thread. The latest news is contented boredom. There just isn't that many Starlings around anymore. I guess we don't live in the Matrix and the game isn't going to reset itself any time soon. I probably only shot five Starlings in the past six weeks. The K.O.'s work perfectly, not a fly off yet! The gun just hangs by it's sling, and when called upon, hits. No warm up shots, just bang, dead.

The Report's Good!
 
We are heading towards July and I feel that I should update this thread. The latest news is contented boredom. There just isn't that many Starlings around anymore. I guess we don't live in the Matrix and the game isn't going to reset itself any time soon. I probably only shot five Starlings in the past six weeks. The K.O.'s work perfectly, not a fly off yet! The gun just hangs by it's sling, and when called upon, hits. No warm up shots, just bang, dead.

The Report's Good!
That sounds about like my late Hatsan FlashPup( late because somebody wanted it & was happily re-homed). It never gave me any issues either, other than the little bolt being hard to cock. And, my starling shooting has slowed a bit too.
 
I am going to start this thread so that I don't always have to start a new one, and as a way to keep people apprised of my exploits with my Vectis, my most surprising airgun that I have ever owned by far.

I bought it for next to nothing, it has cost me nothing to own, it never changes it's shooting behavior, and is as accurate as anything that I read about on these forums (for a hunting gun, Soren's RW is other worldly). It's a total win, unless you can't put up with the fact that it is a little ugly, and plastic, and a Hatsan, but that would just be your problem, not mine, because this thing shoots lights out. Being unregulated, the first shot is a good shot too.

Even I am still amazed by just how well it works. I did just finally re-seal it after many years, but only the fill nipple really needed a new oring, the rest I replaced just because. The only thing that I changed on it was to saw off the muzzle brake and screw on a Tanto. I recently made the move from NSA 12.5gr slugs to JSB KO 10.03gr slugs @965fps, not for accuracy reasons, both can do .75" groups at 75y, but for expansion on Starlings. The NSA were ice-picking them, but the JSB blow up! I do give up the higher b.c. of the NSA, and it is noticeable, but the on target performance is more important. If they aren't dropped on the spot they can fly to a very steep and high roof and die and clog the gutters. Not good. If you think the gun is ugly you should see what that looks like.

Today, I had the opportunity to take out a particularly smart pair of Starlings that have been eluding me for a while, and the Vectis did not fail. I did fail, on the first shot, at 40y high up in a maple tree. The bird was behind a branch and wouldn't expose himself, so I shot the branch, which was under 1/2" thick and I thought it might just work. He flew to the tree behind, up higher still, and now a 75y shot, but he was in the open. He died with a very loud pop! About two hours later the mate showed up looking for the other and I reunited them. I'm thoughtful that way.

"PCP's are too expensive, finding the right slug is impossible and they're not as good as a pellet under a 100y " -Bull$h!t,
on all counts.
Vectis is the lever action version of the Flash. Which as far as I am concerned is the best starter rifle. Nuts on accuracy, reliable as almost any pcp rifle (excluding AirForce) and easy to maintain.

Never shot my flash more than my 40-45 yards out back. But it was a great squirrel gun. My only issue was the small air tube

I love lever action, have a Shin Sung Career 707. But my favorite rifle ever Savage model 99 (stolen). Side lever is easier but there is just something about lever action i love. Probably from watching The Rifleman as a kid.
 
Vectis is the lever action version of the Flash. Which as far as I am concerned is the best starter rifle. Nuts on accuracy, reliable as almost any pcp rifle (excluding AirForce) and easy to maintain.

Never shot my flash more than my 40-45 yards out back. But it was a great squirrel gun. My only issue was the small air tube

I love lever action, have a Shin Sung Career 707. But my favorite rifle ever Savage model 99 (stolen). Side lever is easier but there is just something about lever action i love. Probably from watching The Rifleman as a kid.
I very much blame the rifleman for my love of lever actions, and I won't apologize for it.
 
Vectis is the lever action version of the Flash. Which as far as I am concerned is the best starter rifle. Nuts on accuracy, reliable as almost any pcp rifle (excluding AirForce) and easy to maintain.

Never shot my flash more than my 40-45 yards out back. But it was a great squirrel gun. My only issue was the small air tube

I love lever action, have a Shin Sung Career 707. But my favorite rifle ever Savage model 99 (stolen). Side lever is easier but there is just something about lever action i love. Probably from watching The Rifleman as a kid.
Actually, being made completely from polymer, I think it's made better. The internals definately look better than a flash. I had a flashpup too, and it was accurate to beat the band, but my God, the internal machining was terrible. The polymer Vectis looks great. Because of where the trees are, where I pest, half of my shots are between 50-75y and this is no problem for this gun. I had shot quite a few Starlings with pellets out to 60y too, but the slugs really changed the game, and this gun loves them.
 

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