PCP RAW Airguns

[Ezana4CE]

I haven’t seen much on the HAM forums on Rapid Air Worx (formerly Rapid Air Weapons ak RAW), more specifically their air rifles. When the discussion comes up on American made rifles this brand is often left out. From what I recall from reading about and watching videos, RAW air rifles descend from the British Theoben line of air rifles. The designer of the current RAW air rifles (Martin Rutterford) immigrated from the UK to Tennessee and produces his rifles with a team of machinists there. Eventually Airforce Airguns acquired RAW, but Martin is still involved in the manufacturing of the rifles to my understanding. If I remember correctly he used to test each rifle before shipping. They seem to have a following with benchrest shooters and some other air shooting sports competitors, but in a general sense I don’t hear or see RAW rifles discussed much and I wonder why. I don’t own one, but from what I’ve gathered they perform well and are well built. So I ask, are these rifles considered American or American made rifles by members of the HAM community? What are your thoughts on and experiences with RAW air rifles and airguns?

RAW website Rapid Air Worx Airguns-Precharged Pneumatic Air Rifles-PreCharged Pneumatic Airguns-Made In The USA

Some links to videos containing info on the guns and the company.

Rapid Air Weapons factory tour

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[wolfmangreg]

You beat me to the punch . Just spoke with Martin... in 3-4 months should be receiving something like this:



... but with this stock:

 

[pan60]

when i was first shopping around and trying to find what all was USA made RAW came up i did do some reseach and called i found they where not super reseptive to takig some time and chatting. i had some question and told the guy if he was busy we could corrispond through email and gave him my email address but i never heard anything else.
i am sure i emailed them trying to get some corispondince but never heard back?

i most likely would not have got one regardless beacue what i was seeing looked heavy and i did not like the looks of the large bulky moderator.

 

[Bladebum]

When i went out looking for an airgun to "end my search" , the two guns that came out on top were the raw hm1000x and the AAA Evol. The RAW had alot of great features, but ultimately it lost out for me on many accounts because I am a hunter/pest shooter. Aside from its excellent accuracy and power, it is long, heavy, loud and inefficient. If I was going to spend that kind of money on an airgun, only one small criteria missing would be acceptable, but not that many.

Basically put, I feel they only appeal to bench shooters, not so much hunters/pesters and plinkers which makes up a large portion of airgun folks. If RAW got on top of thier game and created a gun that fit the bill, I would love to support them. At this point, the only gun that appeals to me is the micro hunter.

 

[pan60]

The RAW had alot of great features, but ultimately it lost out for me on many accounts because I am a hunter/pest shooter. Aside from its excellent accuracy and power, it is long, heavy, loud and inefficient. If I was going to spend that kind of money on an airgun, only one small criteria missing would be acceptable, but not that many.

Basically put, I feel they only appeal to bench shooters, not so much hunters/pesters and plinkers which makes up a large portion of airgun folks.

At this point, the only gun that appeals to me is the micro hunter.

plus on all this!!
the majorety around here is hunter / pester as for bench although i hope it moves more in the majorety is very much minor.

 

[Ezana4CE]

When i went out looking for an airgun to "end my search" , the two guns that came out on top were the raw hm1000x and the AAA Evol. The RAW had alot of great features, but ultimately it lost out for me on many accounts because I am a hunter/pest shooter. Aside from its excellent accuracy and power, it is long, heavy, loud and inefficient. ..Basically put, I feel they only appeal to bench shooters, not so much hunters/pesters and plinkers which makes up a large portion of airgun folks. If RAW got on top of thier game and created a gun that fit the bill, I would love to support them. At this point, the only gun that appeals to me is the micro hunter.

plus on all this!!
the majorety around here is hunter / pester as for bench although i hope it moves more in the majorety is very much minor.

@Bladebum @pan60

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[TN_Yankee]

I was just now looking at the Microhunter and wondering how it compared to the BRK and other similar offerings. While I like AAA models, I can't justify let alone afford $2k.

Edit: The more I read on it this morning, the less intriguing it becomes.

 

[CTAirgunner]

@Ezana4CE The micro hunter is great I think for someone who doesn't need a lot of power and is pesting sub 45 yards always. They advertise in 22 max FPS IS 820 WITH A 22 grain projectile. They also advertise 30 shots per fill but with 13.43 gr ammo. I think considering its a bottle gun its a bit inefficient looking at those numbers but if if not needing 30 fpe or more than 15 shots at max FPE of 23 then it will probably work for ya!

 

[Luis Leon]

I was just now looking at the Microhunter and wondering how it compared to the BRK and other similar offerings. While I like AAA models, I can't justify let alone afford $2k.

Edit: The more I read on it this morning, the less intriguing it becomes.

I think it would compare/contrast nicely with the BRK Pathfinder. I really like the Micro Hunter as presented, it exudes potential. The Pathfinder XR puts out more power in a similar sized package with easy power adjustments.

 

[wolfmangreg]

Basically put, I feel they only appeal to bench shooters, not so much hunters/pesters and plinkers which makes up a large portion of airgun folks. If RAW got on top of thier game and created a gun that fit the bill, I would love to support them. At this point, the only gun that appeals to me is the micro hunter.

Going through Martin directly (USA Airguns) opens up more options than the stocks, barrel lengths, & even calibers you see in the RAW section at AOA, Pyramid etc. Agree that those offerings are clearly bench oriented, & would be unwieldy in the woods.

Mine will be used for hunter class field target.

 

[Mubhaur]

I have been enjoying RAW guns for many years. Absolutely great guns.

 

[Ezana4CE]

@Ezana4CE The micro hunter is great I think for someone who doesn't need a lot of power and is pesting sub 45 yards always. They advertise in 22 max FPS IS 820 WITH A 22 grain projectile. They also advertise 30 shots per fill but with 13.43 gr ammo. I think considering its a bottle gun its a bit inefficient looking at those numbers but if if not needing 30 fpe or more than 15 shots at max FPE of 23 then it will probably work for ya!

@CTAirgunner Those numbers don’t look very promising for those of us who have had the privilege of enjoying Huben K1s or RTI Prophets in .22. As a hunter I’m grateful for the ability to adjust a gun to produce more energy. Being in the field and encountering a larger animal with an underpowered airgun sucks!! If I can get 15-18 powerful shots in .22 on a bottle fill, I’m happy.

 

[Pumacarl]

I came very close to buying a RAW and I might catch some grief for saying why I didn't, but here it goes anyway. I have been following Mubhaur's journey with them ever since he started posting about his mods on this and other forums, and I am extremely impressed with his numbers and the parts he builds. In fact, it seems to me, there is no practical disadvantage to his work. Why hasn't Martin incorporated some of his designs? I remember that he offered them up for free. I don't own an FX but they impress the hell out of me in how quick they will change something if they think it's better. RAW's were always reported to be loud. Why? There seem to be some custom builders that really quiet them up. Their new big can was extremely wanting. Improve your product. Especially when others show you the way. Air usage always read high to me too.The Micro Hunter is another gun that I shake my head at. Why someone would spend the money on something so limited instead of an Evol Mini mystifies me. I really love a lot about their guns but they really should upgrade things when they come along. I would be very proud to own one, I think they are among the best, but they could easily be so much better. I don't mind buying a cheaper gun knowing that I am going to do a lot of work on it, but I didn't want to buy a top tier product knowing that I would be sending it out and changing so much up because they don't want to improve anything that others already have. Maybe, I am offbase, I don't know, that's just how it all read out to me when I looked into them. They are good looking, that's for sure. The trigger and how the probe works is first rate. Like I said, a lot to like. I will probably get one some day, but I would have already, if not for a few things that bugged me. jmo

 

[Pumacarl]

I have been enjoying RAW guns for many years. Absolutely great guns.
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You do great work! I have been following your posts for a while now. Very innovative, kudos to you!

 

[jps2486]

Have you seen the HM1000X Mini? Nice gun.

 

[Ezana4CE]

Have you seen the HM1000X Mini? Nice gun.

I just caught wind of it today. At first I though it was the same as the Micro Hunter.

 

[Bladebum]

Have you seen the HM1000X Mini? Nice gun.

I just watched AEAC video with it yesterday too, looks like RAW might have upped thier game a bit. Anxious to see the stats on this one

 

[Ezana4CE]

I just watched AEAC video with it yesterday too, looks like RAW might have upped thier game a bit. Anxious to see the stats on this one

40 - 45 fpe in .25 is nice compared to what the Micro was pushing. This one has my attention.

 

[Bladebum]

40 - 45 fpe in .25 is nice compared to what the Micro was pushing. This one has my attention.

I believe it was 45 ft lbs in .22 , I could be wrong but I feel like that's what was stated. Definitely a jump in efficiency though compared to the long or the micro.

 

[Ezana4CE]

I believe it was 45 ft lbs in .22 , I could be wrong but I feel like that's what was stated. Definitely a jump in efficiency though compared to the long or the micro.

Even better if that's a stat for the .22 caliber. Either way, I'm interested.