PCP Any love for the Turks?

[BBGunn]

I have two Turkish rifles and both are exceedingly accurate.

This is my Reximex Daystar in .22. I shoot AEA 18.3s at 890fps and the rifle averages 5/8" 5-shot groups at 50yds off my bench with front & rear bags. The rifle is unregulated and I have my tune set for just the very top (flatest) part of the bell curve. I get 30-shots per fill with single digit ES from a fill of 2900psi.

Only modifications are a polished bore, trigger mod. and a cut hammer spring. These Reximex 'long' rifles have overly stout hammer springs. I modified the trigger to be single stage only. The trigger breaks crisp at 8oz. with zero take-up.

The Daystar is wearing a Fox 300. .22 model. Optic is a Meopta Optika5 2-10x42. Turrets are excellent and repeatable. I 'dial' this scope for longer range shots in the field.

In my opinion, these Turkish made rifles are an excellent value for their price.

Daystar out for a day slaying 'Sage Rats' (ground squirrels)!

 

[EdinGa]

I love my Cayden but I do wish it wasn't so heavy.

 

[Pumacarl]

For all the crap that I've seen people throw at Hatsan, I have found their barrels to be excellent shooters. I love mine.

 

[Pumacarl]

I have two Turkish rifles and both are exceedingly accurate.

This is my Reximex Daystar in .22. I shoot AEA 18.3s at 890fps and the rifle averages 5/8" 5-shot groups at 50yds off my bench with front & rear bags. The rifle is unregulated and I have my tune set for just the very top (flatest) part of the bell curve. I get 30-shots per fill with single digit ES from a fill of 2900psi.

Only modifications are a polished bore, trigger mod. and a cut hammer spring. These Reximex 'long' rifles have overly stout hammer springs. I modified the trigger to be single stage only. The trigger breaks crisp at 8oz. with zero take-up.

The Daystar is wearing a Fox 300. .22 model. Optic is a Meopta Optika5 2-10x42. Turrets are excellent and repeatable. I 'dial' this scope for longer range shots in the field.

In my opinion, these Turkish made rifles are an excellent value for their price.

Daystar out for a day slaying 'Sage Rats' (ground squirrels)!

That looks like a good off-hand shooter too. Nice gun!

 

[Roamin Greco 1]

"Istanbul was Constantinople...."
Sorry, I always think of that song. I don't know why. "It's nobody's business but the Turks."

 

[PapaT]

For all the crap that I've seen people throw at Hatsan, I have found their barrels to be excellent shooters. I love mine.

Hatsan refurbished is an excellent value for sure. Double the QC for a reduced price.

 

[cosmic]

Hatsan ruined Turkish rep..

 

[PapaT]

Have a Lieva being 24-hr leak checked

 

[JimT66]

I have 2 Turks. An ELF-W in .22, and the .22 Akela. They both love the 18 grain Dead Centers, and are dead money on squirrels and rabbits out to 40ish yards. Love them both.

 

[PapaT]

And it's here. No shots fired, yet, but it is beautiful.

 

[Billm]

And it's here. No shots fired, yet, but it is beautiful. View attachment 19583View attachment 19584

Looks real nice.

 

[SpindleB]

I own:
Hatsan rifles. Sold a couple a while back but for the price and semiautomatic they were great. Just moved on from semiautomatic. Still have a couple, Invader and Bullmaster, that were used for spare parts and experiments. They are operational, only work as bolt action. I just dont work on them much. Have a Sortie too. It is on what appears to be permanent loan. Works great for short range pesting.

Reximex Throne 2 is a great rifle. Accurate and most of the tuning adjustments of the rifles costing 2-3k more. 2nd most used gun after my Max 1. Zero issues with the gun. I would love a Meta Premium but they are a bit hard to come by stateside.

Niksan Ozark, the most bang for your buck rifle (and the Elf) on the market. Own .22 and .25. The .25 is my back door shooter. Squirrels hate those guns. Other than a cross threaded bleed screw on the .22 they have been flawless.

Nephew has a Niksan Elf. He is surrounded by filbert (hazelnut) orchards. MANY squirrels have been eliminated with that bullpup.

So yeah, the usual Turkish haters can all go pound sand with their whines about a problem they had with a Turkish rifle 5 years ago.

These are high quality, well maybe not Hatsan, rifles that shoot as well as rifles costing 4-8 times as much.

 

[JimT66]

And it's here. No shots fired, yet, but it is beautiful. View attachment 19583View attachment 19584

Can't wait for the range report on this beauty PapaT!

 

[BBGunn]

I fired this target today from my bench using my Reximex Lyra. This kind of shot-to-shot consistency would be considered excellent from a top-shelf air rifle, let alone a budget rifle like the Lyra!

 

[PapaT]

That's an impressive 30 shot group for me at any range, much less 50 yards.

 

[SpindleB]

I fired this target today from my bench using my Reximex Lyra. This kind of shot-to-shot consistency would be considered excellent from a top-shelf air rifle, let alone a budget rifle like the Lyra!

Reximex makes the best guns under $1,000 on the market. Meta Premium is their most expensive at around $850. And they can hang with guns 8 times more expensive.

 

[BBGunn]

That's an impressive 30 shot group for me at any range, much less 50 yards.

I have a Reximex Lyra and Daystar, both in .22. The rifles are nearly identical except for the stocks and the block. The barrels, air cylinders, valves, hammer & spring, trigger set, etc are exactly the same on both rifles. I have both rifles setup exactly the same and both rifles perform identical! I use the Lyra off the bench, and the Daystar for ground squirrels.

Only mods. to the rifles are polished bores, triggers & safeties modified to single-stage only and set to 8oz pull-weight. The trigger mods. involved removal of one spring and installation of a different spring in a different location within the trigger set. I pulled the rifles apart when they were new and saw that some o-rings had been shaved by sharp edges on ports and screw holes. I deburred and cleaned-up those problem areas and re-assembled the rifles with new o-rings.

The air cylinders hold enough air volume that it's easy to establish a tune that just uses the very top of the bell curve and yet still get 30-shots per fill. Both my Reximex 'long' rifles are un-regulated and get 30-shots with single digit ES.

And of course, the best thing about non-regulated air rifles is you don't have to purge the regulator to get rid of the regulator creep pressure. My non-regulated rifles can be trusted to shoot the same POI every time they are used!

However, it's not all 'roses' with these Turkish rifles as the quality of manufacture and the choice of alloys used in construction are not top-notch. If a person buys a Turkish rifle they should expect that some degree of tinkering might be required to get the rifles working like the SHOULD from the factory. If a person can do that work, then the Turk rifles can end-up an excellent air rifle!

 

[SpindleB]

I think with the Daystar and Lyra it is more a cost limitation with regard to some of those issues. My Throne 2 was as clean and ready to shoot as any rifle I had seen. No burrs, blemishes, bad orings or loose screws.

I don't polish my barrels but I always clean them upon arrival. The patches had a little oil residue and that was it.

My Niksan Ozarks both were in the same shape. Not sure why they are not more popular given their under $400 price and the quality of the builds.

That said I did have a Niksan Escalade that was eventually returned to DonnyFL. The gun was 3500psi rated and the aluminum bottles were stamped working pressure of 3000psi. They literally tried to claim the stamped value was an error and a sticker stating 3500psi overrides the stamped value.

That is not how it works. The permanent stamped value is the only value that is valid. Went back and forth and they were adamant the sticker counted plus I would have to pay shipping to return the rifle. So, I went public on AGN. They were taking a beating in public and finally offered to swap the Escalade for an Ozark at their cost. Their problem was I am a Test Engineer and am quite knowledgeable with regard to specifications and safety.

Weirdly a few days later that account was nuked for "moderator abuse" because I asked questions in a private message to the moderator. Obviously no connection between taking on a sponsor and the account being nuked.

That was because one of their *notable* members claimed I was "making it up" when I explained a long and arduous path of tuning a moderated Hatsan Barrage to shoot virtually without failure to index. To which I took exception. Calling me a liar was acceptable. Taking exception was cause to have my account restricted.

Yes, it is possible to make moderated semiautomatic Hatsan reliable. Requires moderator, regulator and a LOT of hammer and return springs. And time, lots of time. There is a balance of regulator pressure, return spring and hammer spring that lets the rifle fire 3-4 magazines without ever failing to index. That was about 100+ different setups over 2-3 weeks.

 

[Chris two-furs]

Too bad those Benjamin Craftsman rifles Cayden, etc are no longer available. Good quality, and Indonesian walnut is attractive too.

 

[Chris two-furs]

I think with the Daystar and Lyra it is more a cost limitation with regard to some of those issues. My Throne 2 was as clean and ready to shoot as any rifle I had seen. No burrs, blemishes, bad orings or loose screws.

I don't polish my barrels but I always clean them upon arrival. The patches had a little oil residue and that was it.

My Niksan Ozarks both were in the same shape. Not sure why they are not more popular given their under $400 price and the quality of the builds.

That said I did have a Niksan Escalade that was eventually returned to DonnyFL. The gun was 3500psi rated and the aluminum bottles were stamped working pressure of 3000psi. They literally tried to claim the stamped value was an error and a sticker stating 3500psi overrides the stamped value.

That is not how it works. The permanent stamped value is the only value that is valid. Went back and forth and they were adamant the sticker counted plus I would have to pay shipping to return the rifle. So, I went public on AGN. They were taking a beating in public and finally offered to swap the Escalade for an Ozark at their cost. Their problem was I am a Test Engineer and am quite knowledgeable with regard to specifications and safety.

Weirdly a few days later that account was nuked for "moderator abuse" because I asked questions in a private message to the moderator. Obviously no connection between taking on a sponsor and the account being nuked.

That was because one of their *notable* members claimed I was "making it up" when I explained a long and arduous path of tuning a moderated Hatsan Barrage to shoot virtually without failure to index. To which I took exception. Calling me a liar was acceptable. Taking exception was cause to have my account restricted.

Yes, it is possible to make moderated semiautomatic Hatsan reliable. Requires moderator, regulator and a LOT of hammer and return springs. And time, lots of time. There is a balance of regulator pressure, return spring and hammer spring that lets the rifle fire 3-4 magazines without ever failing to index. That was about 100+ different setups over 2-3 weeks.

Never a good idea to attempt BS one with knowledge,,experience, AND credentials!