If I could do it over

[PasadenaMike]

You only get a single *Well placed* shot.

You can still get several follow up hits on a moving target with full and semi auto platforms.

Is it ethical?
If you don't intend on killing something you probably shouldn't shoot it to begin with, and more hits = more potential you will succeed if necessary.
Sometimes you only need one, but sometimes you need a follow up to ensure that it IS ethical....

Even the most accurate shooters shoot on windy days, or the game bolts as you fire, or several targets present themselves at one time, or any number of things can and do happen...
Having the ability to follow through without digging for your pellet tin and all that is pretty crucial IMO..

It would be faster to give chase with a Swiss army knife in some cases...

Especially in the Calibers and FPS we are talking about here..

With a pellet holder around your neck a follow up is not that far along

 

[JimT66]

At least they’re like $129

Come on now Mike! Don't have to be mean about it...one of mine was like 259 on sale,(coyote),other 2 200.

 

[Luis Leon]

With a pellet holder around your neck a follow up is not that far along

Main reason I gave up single shot platforms for hunting or pests was the slow follow up shots. We understand that one shot kills are the goal. But afield there are variables that come into play that can cause marginal hits on shots, some shooters were “sure” of… In a target rich environment, they are simply too slow for taking advantage of the rare instances where a bunch of pests present themselves. Not being able to take “multiples” I could live with, the occasional lost pest because of a misplaced shot? Though infrequent I couldn’t live with, and sometimes a critter needs a quick follow up shot even if the first was solid. Animals are tenacious of life. @PasadenaMike, I respect your opinions, but follow up shots are simply faster and more efficient out of a repeater. All the above observations through actual field experience with multiple platforms and hundreds of critters down…

 

[PasadenaMike]

Today I shot a ground squirrel. Looked like a great hit but wasnt. No full auto would’ve allowed a follow up shot.
Every situation is different. I shot it with my Leshiy Classic .25

 

[JimT66]

Today I shot a ground squirrel. Looked like a great hit but wasnt. No full auto would’ve allowed a follow up shot.
Every situation is different.

Amen to that!

 

[PasadenaMike]

I also greased a bunch of sparrows. No follow up needed with a hades. One thwack one death. No replacement for displacement

 

[JimT66]

Well, I'ma gonna put my 2 cents innit. This hillbilly ain't got any problem makin a yote or a trash panda squeal from an errant shot, when I catch em trying to kill my chickens. Least till I cycle that bolt and put another .25 in 'em.

 

[PasadenaMike]

Well, I'ma gonna put my 2 cents innit. This hillbilly ain't got any problem makin a yote or a trash panda squeal from an errant shot, when I catch em trying to kill my chickens. Least till I cycle that bolt and put another .25 in 'em.

Dead is dead don’t eat my chickens

 

[JimT66]

And I don't care what anybody got ta say bout it. Sometimes critters, like people, just gotta fafo.

 

[Luis Leon]

Today I shot a ground squirrel. Looked like a great hit but wasnt. No full auto would’ve allowed a follow up shot.
Every situation is different. I shot it with my Leshiy Classic .25

So how did this segue into “full auto”, you simply took a shot that “looked good” but “wasn’t”. Something I’ve never done… And please do elaborate, in great detail how every situation is different… A single shot in theory is all thats needed… In practice? Not so much, hence repeaters. Enjoy your single shot shooters, but please, please don’t expect to sell that “limitation” as an “asset” the market has spoken… Yes I might load singly while target shooting, afield? Heck no, the additional “monkey motions” of single loading? Simply not missed by me…

 

[JimT66]

So how did this segue into “full auto”, you simply took a shot that “looked good” but “wasn’t”. Something I’ve never done… And please do elaborate, in great detail how every situation is different… A single shot in theory is all thats needed… In practice? Not so much, hence repeaters. Enjoy your single shot shooters, but please, please don’t expect to sell that “limitation” as an “asset” the market has spoken… Yes I might load singly while target shooting, afield? Heck no, the additional “monkey motions” of single loading? Simply

Aim small, miss small!

 

[PasadenaMike]

So how did this segue into “full auto”, you simply took a shot that “looked good” but “wasn’t”. Something I’ve never done… And please do elaborate, in great detail how every situation is different… A single shot in theory is all thats needed… In practice? Not so much, hence repeaters. Enjoy your single shot shooters, but please, please don’t expect to sell that “limitation” as an “asset” the market has spoken… Yes I might load singly while target shooting, afield? Heck no, the additional “monkey motions” of single loading? Simply not missed by me…

Lol I’m not trying to sell single shot it’s like trying to sell a manual transmission these days no one knows how to drive one. The shot was perfect but not a lights out.
He fell behind the rock thought for sure it was done then hopped up and ran to its hole like Superman. No amount of follow up would’ve helped they’re just fast. Shot was about 40 yards

 

[Luis Leon]

Aim small, miss small!

Jim in my backyard plinking sessions? Thats the adage, I “miss” on objects much smaller than the prey I go after. So when I go pesting it with “high confidence”, I have documented proof of hundreds of critters down to prove it.

 

[JimT66]

Luis, just trying to lighten things up a little. Don't take it so serious. I can promise you, is many on here that hunted and taken everything on 2 legs and 4. Keeping score is not something we proud of.

 

[JimT66]

But I hope you understand about me, I like to joke and carry on. Ask Mike, or Filthy. No hard feelings.

 

[Luis Leon]

But I hope you understand about me, I like to joke and carry on. Ask Mike, or Filthy. No hard feelings.

This entire hobby is about “fun” so definitely no hard feelings on my part, just some “verbal jousting” and for the record. I really don’t keep count, just have been lucky in pesting opportunities…

 

[JimT66]

Ya gotta take ya opportunities when they present themselves, or get over run.

 

[Franklink]

Hardcore single shot fan here. Whether it's field target or silhouettes (both on timers) or prairie dogs, heck, even pest birds at the dairy (hundreds of shots in a couple hours), I will ALWAYS choose single shot. And do.

The only use I can rationalize for magazines would be a speed event like at EBR/RMAC.

Problem with magazines is that they need loaded. One of the reason I went away from magazines in air guns is that I was spending more time loading mags then I was spending shooting.

Grew up with a single shot H&R break action Handi Rifle in .223. Make the first shot count.

 

[JimT66]

Hardcore single shot fan here. Whether it's field target or silhouettes (both on timers) or prairie dogs, heck, even pest birds at the dairy (hundreds of shots in a couple hours), I will ALWAYS choose single shot. And do.

The only use I can rationalize for magazines would be a speed event like at EBR/RMAC.

Problem with magazines is that they need loaded. One of the reason I went away from magazines in air guns is that I was spending more time loading mags then I was spending shooting.

Grew up with a single shot H&R break action Handi Rifle in .223. Make the first shot count.

Oh I'm sold on them. My next rifle will be single shot only.

 

[pan60]

are with Luis Leon and will add although I seldom miss, but I do, it happens, setting that aside I have taken multiple tree rats one after the next on the same branch do to a magazine so I am all over love-en it