Blackwolf Daystate Blackwolf Zero Overview Video

[Billm]

I ran across this overview of the Daystate BlackWolf. No barrel tensioner, no case, shorter Arca rail, different cocking handle and grip. Synthetic grey stock.

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[Franklink]

I ran across this overview of the Daystate BlackWolf. No barrel tensioner, no case, shorter Arca rail, different cocking handle and grip. Synthetic grey stock.

I like it.

I agree with your assessment Bill.....
Looks like a Ghost cocking lever/handle.
Stock looks nearly identical to the BW Ive been testing, with the composite midsection of this Zero just being a bit lighter in color.

As for the OAL, doesnt look too unwieldy in th videod. I checked elsewhere and it looks to be just shy of 39inches. And that's of course without a moderator. More convenient than the loooonngggg one that I've got. But still not anything even close to compact and handy.

I've concluded that the design of the BW platform (not a bullpup or even semi-bullpup) simply equates to a long gun.

 

[Solo1]

Now to see what aoa does with pricing.

 

[Billm]

Besides price, my only other question: is there a difference in plenum size?

 

[Franklink]

I would just about promise they're the same size.

AOA told me they were going to transmit my data and photos for the prototype plenum and TP reducers back to Daystate, but it seems highly unlikely that they would have already implemented any of that.

On the flip side of my last conjecturing statement , Daystate has got to be throttling down the fpe for the 12fpe markets like the UK, and that would have been from initial product launch almost a year ago.

 

[Solo1]

After looking at specs for different calibers on aoa i think cole is right. It will probably be the same sized plenum and if they do make a change i would think they would just print a part to add as a reducer. The part i dont get is how they could reduce the bw0 price enough to really make a difference compared to the grey stock let alone the 1’s with basically the same stock?

 

[Billm]

After looking at specs for different calibers on aoa i think cole is right. It will probably be the same sized plenum and if they do make a change i would think they would just print a part to add as a reducer. The part i dont get is how they could reduce the bw0 price enough to really make a difference compared to the grey stock let alone the 1’s with basically the same stock?

Having ties to the UK, I follow the UK airguns scene relatively closely. The general comments about the BW Zero are that it is a really nice looking gun, but too overpriced to purchase. A lot of the comments on UK reviews of the Blackwolf in general are that its accuracy doesn’t rise to expectations for the price. That’s not to say there aren’t happy BW shooters, because there are. I can’t get my head around a marketing specialist naming a product other than a diet soda a “Zero”. Let me introduce you to our new flagship product : “The Zero!” lol

 

[Franklink]

Having ties to the UK, I follow the UK airguns scene relatively closely. The general comments about the BW Zero are that it is a really nice looking gun, but too overpriced to purchase. A lot of the comments on UK reviews of the Blackwolf in general are that its accuracy doesn’t rise to expectations for the price. That’s not to say there aren’t happy BW shooters, because there are. I can’t get my head around a marketing specialist naming a product other than a diet soda a “Zero”. Let me introduce you to our new flagship product : “The Zero!” lol

My great uncle was a prolific outdoor write, Outdoor Life, National Geographic, tons of books, etc. He wrote a book (and numerous articles) about "Koga's Zero." It was a crashed Japanese fighter plane found, somewhat miraculously, in the Aleutian Island chain. The US government very carefully collected it off that island, shipped it down to California, rebuilt it enough to fly it. And used what they learned of it's flight characteristics to at least in part give our fighters a much better chance against them in the sky. Reports back from the US fighters were that the information proved very helpful in dogfights again the Japanese Zeros.

Anyway, naming it the "Zero" makes me think of that.

 

[Billm]

My great uncle was a prolific outdoor write, Outdoor Life, National Geographic, tons of books, etc. He wrote a book (and numerous articles) about "Koga's Zero." It was a crashed Japanese fighter plane found, somewhat miraculously, in the Aleutian Island chain. The US government very carefully collected it off that island, shipped it down to California, rebuilt it enough to fly it. And used what they learned of it's flight characteristics to at least in part give our fighters a much better chance against them in the sky. Reports back from the US fighters were that the information proved very helpful in dogfights again the Japanese Zeros.

Anyway, naming it the "Zero" makes me think of that.

Except that Daystate has used the term in relation to the fact that it is a reduced version of the Blackwolf. The Japanese used the name Zero, because zero was the last digit of the Imperial year that it was released 2600. But, as a history nut, thanks for sharing your family connection to that bit of history, things like that are always interesting and cool.

 

[Franklink]

Except that Daystate has used the term in relation to the fact that it is a reduced version of the Blackwolf. The Japanese used the name Zero, because zero was the last digit of the Imperial year that it was released 2600. But, as a history nut, thanks for sharing your family connection to that bit of history, things like that are always interesting and cool.

Ehhh. I don't think about it like that.

Consider trim levels of vehicles. I bought a new truck two years ago, drove the same truck for 20 years prior to that (kept it actually and still driving it). I knew I wanted a V8, and four wheel drive, and a four door to fit my whole family. I placed zero value on add-ons that I didn't want/need. All said and done I saved about 40k by not falling into the mental trap of "lesser" or "reduced" with one of the "lower" trims.

When it comes to the Zero, it's got all the integral parts of what makes a Blackwolf what it is. Leave it as-is, and save some money (assuming it's priced less) or consider it a blank canvas to buy the accessories you actually want, not what was included in the bundle/package at a substantial mark-up.