Others Crosman leaving East Bloomfield

[Farmplinker2]

Just saw in my news feed this morning that Crosman is closing it's plant. It seems like they might leave some things in East Bloomfield, NY; but most of the work is going to Arkansas.
Hopefully Daisy won't cut too may models.

 

[Gramps-Too]

Was afraid that was going to happen. I did realize Daisy still had manufacturing facilities in Arkansas, though those were all closed.

 

[pan60]

Just saw in my news feed this morning that Crosman is closing it's plant. It seems like they might leave some things in East Bloomfield, NY; but most of the work is going to Arkansas.
Hopefully Daisy won't cut too may models.

you mean china?

 

[pan60]

Was afraid that was going to happen. I did realize Daisy still had manufacturing facilities in Arkansas, though those were all closed.

unles they just started they arnt

 

[hameditor]

My guess is that Crosman may yet stay in East Bloomfield. There's a sign outside the plant saying it's for sale, however Gamo/Daisy could potentially lease back some of the space for Crosman if it's sold to a new owner. That could make sense for all parties.

I think we'll need to wait and see a while longer on this one.

Having been involved in takeover scenarios like this in a previous life, my experience is that there's many twists and turns along the way before everything is finalized - and plans change too.

 

[Farmplinker2]

My guess is that Crosman may yet stay in East Bloomfield. There's a sign outside the plant saying it's for sale, however Gamo/Daisy could potentially lease back some of the space for Crosman if it's sold to a new owner. That could make sense for all parties.

I think we'll need to wait and see a while lon ger on this one.

Having been involved in takeover scenarios like this in a previous life, my experience is that there's many twists and turns along the way before everything is finalized - and plans change too.

I hope so! And hopefully this won't affect Airgun Revisions!

 

[jps2486]

I would guess that the cost of doing business in NY as well as Commiefornia is prohibitive. Makes business sense to move the operation to AR, but I sure feel bad for the employees and local businesses there.

 

[Hateful McNasty]

Seems last time it sold (2017+/-?) it just was a sale betwy holding companies and just remained pretty much business as usual .. here with closing and moving your probably going to see lots of fat trimmed . In the end I'm a feeling like most hobbies of past this will ruin air gunning . Just going by how bad it's got after covid vs before . I use to do a lot more then then now nothing of interest or stupid pricing or just lack of availability of common stuff or a part ..

What I got to figure is it's gamo on top in all this and there ways trickling in to these companies like crosman or daisy .

Like hinted above . Look how gamo is on any part for there gun .. ain't happing in the USA or get or know someone with a ffl then gamo may sell you a part ..

For me is pellet supply . Is my everyday getting the crosman pellets at everyday low prices Walmart coming to a end ? All daisy sell at mine is the garbage pointed .177 and the gamo is the expensive redfires or bb tiped ones 9$ for 125 tin ..lol .. no thanks

Ya, I'm already cleaning out a spot in the closet along with hobbies past for this stuff to go in. ..lol

Jps has a good point too on leaving NY.

After what they pulled on trump a business now got to wonder who's next and watch there back . And being gun in a pinko state you can't blame them for loading up and moving out ..

Them holding companies it's bottom line dollar for profit

They offer that cheaper better product for you ..

( That's cheaper for them to make and better profits for the shareholders )

 

[bchannell]

Yes, NY is a terrible state to do business in and lots of companies are looking to the more intelligent governments of the south. Hopefully, that's the reasoning. I hope this won't be a time of thinning the herd, but we all know, there's no better time than during a move. It's a shame when old US institutions get forced to make tough decisions.

 

[Hateful McNasty]

Yes, NY is a terrible state to do business in and lots of companies are looking to the more intelligent governments of the south. Hopefully, that's the reasoning. I hope this won't be a time of thinning the herd, but we all know, there's no better time than during a move. It's a shame when old US institutions get forced to make tough decisions.

So true .. but that area of Arkansas kinda consolidates there holdings in one place so to say .. one big happy family under one roof ..

So start looking for more monopoly ruination of air gun stuff . / More price fixing and no competition . High stagnet or inflated / markups

 

[Farmplinker2]

So true .. but that area of Arkansas kinda consolidates there holdings in one place so to say .. one big happy family under one roof ..

So start looking for more monopoly ruination of air gun stuff . / More price fixing and no competition . High stagnet or inflated / markups

Well, it'll make Weirauch, Cometa, and AirForce look better price-wise!

 

[Hateful McNasty]

Well, it'll make Weirauch, Cometa, and AirForce look better price-wise!

Time will tell. He ain't looking too good anymore unavailable guns with jacked up prices or more expensive models . Like discontinued the hw95 std that was a well under 400$ but introduced the hw95n at 600$ or them limited edition ones ..lol, really no thanks ... , cometa looks promising nice wood nice pricing , air force is pcp do no interest .. lol. Thing with most is it's there importer / distribution . Like it's brands under like air venturi that holds them cards . Sure others sell them but it through av 's grace I feel as a example . It's not like you shop to find better pricing cause it the same or higher then pa has a sale or just keeps there's for av just a few bucks lower then the rest .. ..lol

For me on this sale of crosman is ammo availability as in no longer easy available and jacked pricing . Are the easy and cheap Walmart cphp going to be like buying a ton of h&n at 12+$ and have to mail-order . I did this hobby to do at my convenance not the guns so to say .

Anyway time will tell ..

 

[MMCM13]

My guess is that Crosman may yet stay in East Bloomfield. There's a sign outside the plant saying it's for sale, however Gamo/Daisy could potentially lease back some of the space for Crosman if it's sold to a new owner. That could make sense for all parties.

I think we'll need to wait and see a while longer on this one.

Having been involved in takeover scenarios like this in a previous life, my experience is that there's many twists and turns along the way before everything is finalized - and plans change too.

This is a common scheme now, an investment group buys a business, sells the land and building, now the business has to pay to lease the space they owned, and costs rise. Bankruptcy, closure and jobs loss follow.

 

[pan60]

I would guess that the cost of doing business in NY as well as Commiefornia is prohibitive. Makes business sense to move the operation to AR, but I sure feel bad for the employees and local businesses there.

i do not beleave it will move here.
i say it stays ther or moves to china if theres a move?
they moved manufactoring out of Ar years ago i do nt it coming back if the target is low end price point guns.

 

[Farmplinker2]

Time will tell. He ain't looking too good anymore unavailable guns with jacked up prices or more expensive models . Like discontinued the hw95 std that was a well under 400$ but introduced the hw95n at 600$ or them limited edition ones ..lol, really no thanks ... , cometa looks promising nice wood nice pricing , air force is pcp do no interest .. lol. Thing with most is it's there importer / distribution . Like it's brands under like air venturi that holds them cards . Sure others sell them but it through av 's grace I feel as a example . It's not like you shop to find better pricing cause it the same or higher then pa has a sale or just keeps there's for av just a few bucks lower then the rest .. ..lol

For me on this sale of crosman is ammo availability as in no longer easy available and jacked pricing . Are the easy and cheap Walmart cphp going to be like buying a ton of h&n at 12+$ and have to mail-order . I did this hobby to do at my convenance not the guns so to say .

Anyway time will tell ..

Check out AirForce International. They import some springers. Look like restocked Cometas.

 

[Hateful McNasty]

That guy from the forums from Pennsylvania ( keystone air guns ) has got that covered on springers and a wide selection . I was kinda liking that compact with sights ..

Cometa Fenix 400 Compact

Maybe ham could do a reviews on a gun from him like the 400 series ?

 

[CraigH]

Talked to Randy at Crosman this morning regarding my parts order. Likely will be shipping early-mid February, and taking parts orders then.

They are continuing to build PCP’s in NY.

 

[SILENT SQUIRREL]

Talked to Randy at Crosman this morning regarding my parts order. Likely will be shipping early-mid February, and taking parts orders then.

They are continuing to build PCP’s in NY.

Did you learn from Randy where the parts will be shipping from, @CraigH?

 

[CraigH]

Did you learn from Randy where the parts will be shipping from, @CraigH?

All parts that are not for producing new PCP's have been shipped to AR, and are in the process of being unboxed and placed into bins for shipping to customers.

 

[BenjeneerJohn]

Almost everything will be shipping out of Daisy in AR.

John