250Z Barra 250z .22 Choked Barrel?

[Billm]

You have more than earned the gravitas to post a scathing review. Don't feel held back, or bad about it. It is what it is.

The way that I use my built-in center balanced arca swiss rail, I don't ever push or notice that the front isn't beefy enough. I would not want to be throwing the gun down on a bipod on the ground though for sure. The only major defect that still infuriates me is the picatinny rail not maintaining spec through the magazine cut out. I am only mad about the stock not taking a standard folding stock adapter, but I am extremely pi$$ed off that I can't swap scopes to or from my other guns.

Write away, do a video, let people know and let them decide what's important to them. With the caveats mentioned, it's still the darling of my collection at this point, so I would say that it is possible to have a great outcome for you, still.

Give'em hell though Bill, it's the only way some people learn, and how our posts show, they have a lot to learn still.

lol. I’m just annoyed at their attitude. You know by my other posts that I like the rifle and I believe it has a lot of potential. I received my new bore scope yesterday and I hooked it up today and looked at the barrel. There’s a lot of lead fouling where the tight areas are near the breech and the muzzle. I guess I’ll polish the barrel and see what happens. I still think it’s choked and that’s why it doesn’t seem to handle slugs well. I’ve got nothing to lose. It’s always shot pellets very well.

Like you, my biggest pet peeve is the Picatinny rail. I might try and print a sleeve for the stock with an embedded Arca rail that will provide some rigidity. I just don’t spend a lot of time with the Barra, mostly because of the amount of wind that I have.

 

[Billm]

I was out all day yesterday and didn’t get home until late. Barra responded to my reply with quite a good response. They have offered to replace the barrel when they get new stock, replace the rifle or offer a full refund. Now, I have to decide what to do. I’ve made no mods to my rifle and so a replacement would be the easiest, but I’m not sure if the new changes with the hammer spring etc. are good or bad? I’m not interested in a refund, as I like the rifle, I just want it to be in spec..
I don’t know if it would be appropriate to post their response. The response actually explains the issues with the barrels and they accept full responsibility for it.

 

[Pumacarl]

I was out all day yesterday and didn’t get home until late. Barra responded to my reply with quite a good response. They have offered to replace the barrel when they get new stock, replace the rifle or offer a full refund. Now, I have to decide what to do. I’ve made no mods to my rifle and so a replacement would be the easiest, but I’m not sure if the new changes with the hammer spring etc. are good or bad? I’m not interested in a refund, as I like the rifle, I just want it to be in spec..
I don’t know if it would be appropriate to post their response. The response actually explains the issues with the barrels and they accept full responsibility for it.

Since the barrels are their cheapest way out of this, and so much cheaper for them than a full refund or a new gun, if you just want to get another barrel, tell them you want two. It's that or a new gun, maybe the stock will work this time.

 

[Bladefin]

I was out all day yesterday and didn’t get home until late. Barra responded to my reply with quite a good response. They have offered to replace the barrel when they get new stock, replace the rifle or offer a full refund. Now, I have to decide what to do. I’ve made no mods to my rifle and so a replacement would be the easiest, but I’m not sure if the new changes with the hammer spring etc. are good or bad? I’m not interested in a refund, as I like the rifle, I just want it to be in spec..
I don’t know if it would be appropriate to post their response. The response actually explains the issues with the barrels and they accept full responsibility for it.

I like the new hammer spring adjustment lug design. I just think they needed a shorter spring to make if function correctly. If you're comfortable buying some cheap springs and getting a better fit in there then I'd say go for a new one.

After I get more testing in on mine I may cut the spring that came with the gun. Their spring is $5.00, maybe ask to have an extra one sent with the new gun?

 

[Bladefin]

I also really need to push a slug through both of my guns. That is something I haven't done yet.
Most, if not all, the complaints with the barrels has been in .22 though. Mine is .25 but I'm still going to do this soon.

 

[Billm]

I like the new hammer spring adjustment lug design. I just think they needed a shorter spring to make if function correctly. If you're comfortable buying some cheap springs and getting a better fit in there then I'd say go for a new one.

After I get more testing in on mine I may cut the spring that came with the gun. Their spring is $5.00, maybe ask to have an extra one sent with the new gun?

I don’t mind working on them, thanks for the input.

 

[Dogowski]

I have got to say though, that where mine is at right now, it is my favorite gun of all my guns, to shoot. It's a one off though, I would not want to do it all again.

I must have gotten the other unicorn out there! My 250z 22 is also my favorite and accurate pcp rifles right now. I received a good barrel too so it's incredible and i just can't put it down except on the shooting table while I'm refilling mags! Lol

 

[Cantona256]

lol. I’m just annoyed at their attitude. You know by my other posts that I like the rifle and I believe it has a lot of potential. I received my new bore scope yesterday and I hooked it up today and looked at the barrel. There’s a lot of lead fouling where the tight areas are near the breech and the muzzle. I guess I’ll polish the barrel and see what happens. I still think it’s choked and that’s why it doesn’t seem to handle slugs well. I’ve got nothing to lose. It’s always shot pellets very well.

Like you, my biggest pet peeve is the Picatinny rail. I might try and print a sleeve for the stock with an embedded Arca rail that will provide some rigidity. I just don’t spend a lot of time with the Barra, mostly because of the amount of wind that I have.

They have absolutely cleaned up on this gun with the numbers they have sold. Lots of us have given them free marketing by loving the gun so much…so I agree with puma and GIVE THEM HELL haha.

 

[kcender]

Hope mine came with that elusive horn (unicorn) as well. I gave it an initial cleaning and was surprised by how much lead came out of the bore, but maybe I shouldn't be. Rinse and repeat with a single solvent patch and 12 dries afterwards; did that 3 times and bore scoped it. A lot of cotton particles (patching) so I did a wet patch again and scoped it. Better, but man that bore is rough imho. I know it needs to be shot and that will help, but hopefully I won't have to lap it.

 

[Billm]

Mine was very accurate with pellets and had a little better power numbers compared to some of the other numbers that I’ve seen. I opted for a replacement rifle. I bore scoped the barrel before I decided to send it back. It was rough. It wasn’t just fouling, it was leaving shavings in the barrel. I don’t know if they read this forum or not, but they were very helpful after my posts. I will scope and polish the barrel when I receive the new rifle. If it has similar issues, I’ll either retire it or if possible convert it to .25. I think someone on here is hoarding all of the .22 barrels for his .22 conversion kits lol.

 

[kcender]

Interesting that we saw much the same condition. Frankly, I was surprised by what I saw, but then, I am new to pcp budget rifles. The reports on accuracy are encouraging out of the box, but I'm kind of surprised. Have you removed the barrel/shroud bf? I have a 25, but for reasons, haven't been able to shoot it yet.

 

[Pumacarl]

Mine was very accurate with pellets and had a little better power numbers compared to some of the other numbers that I’ve seen. I opted for a replacement rifle. I bore scoped the barrel before I decided to send it back. It was rough. It wasn’t just fouling, it was leaving shavings in the barrel. I don’t know if they read this forum or not, but they were very helpful after my posts. I will scope and polish the barrel when I receive the new rifle. If it has similar issues, I’ll either retire it or if possible convert it to .25. I think someone on here is hoarding all of the .22 barrels for his .22 conversion kits lol.

I sometimes think that it's just opening a can of worms, but I have got to get a borescope too. I want one that will do .177 too, so I'm going to have to hunt for one I guess. It seems that all the low priced decent units start at .22, and that isn't going to work for me. Any advice on where to look?

 

[Billm]

I bought mine about two weeks ago. I wanted a .177 one as well, but didn’t see one. I was pleasantly surprised how well $65 scope works.

 

[kcender]

I'm not going to be much help, but the one I bought was on Amazon for $50. It's a Teslong and the optic barrel is .24 and the cable is .164; think it is 2k resolution, but decent. Anyway, maybe they make something that will fit and useful. I think it came with smaller barrels so possible it might work. Good luck!

 

[Pumacarl]

I bought mine about two weeks ago. I wanted a .177 one as well, but didn’t see one. I was pleasantly surprised how well $65 scope works.

Maybe the thing to do is to just buy one for .177 and .20, and get another for .22 and up. Sometimes the all in ones are so stupidly priced it's cheaper to do it individually. I am going to look into it.

 

[Billm]

Maybe the thing to do is to just buy one for .177 and .20, and get another for .22 and up. Sometimes the all in ones are so stupidly priced it's cheaper to do it individually. I am going to look into it.

Hawkeye bore scopes will fit .177 looking forward, but not sideways with a mirror. They’re a great deal, starting at about $1500 lol.

 

[Pumacarl]

I'm not going to be much help, but the one I bought was on Amazon for $50. It's a Teslong and the optic barrel is .24 and the cable is .164; think it is 2k resolution, but decent. Anyway, maybe they make something that will fit and useful. I think it came with smaller barrels so possible it might work. Good luck!

Thanks! That is the unit that I heard was a good deal too.

Hawkeye bore scopes will fit .177 looking forward, but not sideways with a mirror. They’re a great deal, starting at about $1500 lol.

THAT does not sound like a deal at all to me! Wait, it does, a bad one. Hopefully I can drop a zero off of that.

 

[Bladefin]

I believe my 2nd 250Z in .25 has a choked barrel. Pushing a slug through from the breech end, decent resistance initially then free slide until about 2.7" from the muzzle end where the resistance picks up again and it take a decent effort to get it out the end.

I haven't had time to do the 1st 250 yet.

 

[Cantona256]

I believe my 2nd 250Z in .25 has a choked barrel. Pushing a slug through from the breech end, decent resistance initially then free slide until about 2.7" from the muzzle end where the resistance picks up again and it take a decent effort to get it out the end.

I haven't had time to do the 1st 250 yet.

That’s wild! I’d be demanding a new one.

 

[Bladefin]

Seems like un-choked barrels are the unicorns. This Is what I just got back from Barra's support.

Moab Helpdesk
1:47 PM (15 minutes ago)
to me

Hello Adam,

Thank you for your recent purchase. However, none of our rifles are not choked. If you feel that your rifle's barrel is defective, please send the following information to ensure we can provide the best service to you.