Adding weight to a rifle?

[Solo1]

You guys should check ebay i found a 150mm long 30 mm brass rod for i think $35. From china

 

[Centercut]

You guys should check ebay i found a 150mm long 30 mm brass rod for i think $35. From china

That’s about what I paid. From AliExpress. I used the 1” round bar on my .25 RW with the balls. On my DW I just have two chunks of 30mm brass 3 inches long each. About 2 pounds total.

 

[Solo1]

Oops i lied it was $39.99 + $2.99 shipping

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[Solo1]

Why are you making these weights out of brass. Steel is nearly twice the weight of brass.

He’s right and its cheaper too

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[Dairyboy]

Why are you making these weights out of brass. Steel is nearly twice the weight of brass.

I'm going with steel on mine. We deal with alot of pipes and bars on the dairy I think I have some 1" dia pieces.

 

[Solo1]

I still think adding weight to the gun isn’t necessarily the way to go. I think it can change harmonics for the worst. I think if your going to add weight you should have something that would absorb vibration between the gun and the weight. Dont know for sure that this is true but my ghost has a much calmer shot off bipod mounted to carbonfiber tube and mounted than off my caldwell precision turret rest that weighs near 10 lbs.

 

[Dairyboy]

I think that's more of a vice issue so to speak in rests where the gun isn't free to move as under a bipod. I used to shoot off a rest alot with very docile guns and was fine but anything with a rougher shot cycle and it messed up the whole shot cycle and messed with accuracy. I now never use a rest only tripod or bags where there's plenty of movement it can do on its own. Extra weight shouldn't mess suth barrel harmonics. But I could be wrong. The accuracy of the gun shouldnt change at all but your ability to shoot it more accurately certainly can. Here's 3 shots at 78yds I did alittle while ago with my mini shooting off the bag out of my truck with the tripod hanging off the front. 2.5lbs exactly is what it weighs. It's helping me.

 

[Smok3y]

Why are you making these weights out of brass. Steel is nearly twice the weight of brass.

Are you sure about this? I have always heard that brass was heavier in the same size, and every site I can find talking about them always show Brass being heavier.

 

[Centercut]

I still think adding weight to the gun isn’t necessarily the way to go. I think it can change harmonics for the worst. I think if your going to add weight you should have something that would absorb vibration between the gun and the weight. Dont know for sure that this is true but my ghost has a much calmer shot off bipod mounted to carbonfiber tube and mounted than off my caldwell precision turret rest that weighs near 10 lbs.

Your reasoning is sound, but I think the extra weight offsets any changes in harmonics. And, the last three years of RMAC and EBR the winners had heavy weights and/or heavy guns.

 

[Smok3y]

I asked Uncle Google. This is what he said:

Weight​

Steel is heavier than brass by about twice as much per volume measure—meaning that if you have a part made from both metals with identical dimensions, the part made from steel will weigh significantly more than its brass counterpart.

I see that comment, but every site I can find that actually looks at weight or density shows brass being denser and heavier. I’m trying to find the calculator I found in the past that lets you choose your size as well.

 

[Smok3y]

I asked Uncle Google. This is what he said:

Weight​

Steel is heavier than brass by about twice as much per volume measure—meaning that if you have a part made from both metals with identical dimensions, the part made from steel will weigh significantly more than its brass counterpart.

I am definitely no expert, but all the data I can find says the opposite of that statement. I wish I could confirm. Either way, they aren’t very different from any data I can find.

STEEL:



BRASS:

 

[Dairyboy]

I'm just going steel cause I can make something easier myself that way lol

 

[Centercut]

I think the post I quoted from google was wrong.
Brass is Copper Zinc. Atomic numbers 29 and 30
Iron (steel) is 26.
Damn Google….
So from the calculators online
1” diameter 6” long
Brass 1.45#
Steel 1.336#

 

[Eric Brewer]

Yes, you are correct. Brass is heavier than steel.

 

[Solo1]

Well either way a heavier gun is harder for the shooter to move but is it necessarily more accurate?

 

[Dairyboy]

Well either way a heavier gun is harder for the shooter to move but is it necessarily more accurate?

Accuracy of gun doesn't change but the shooters ability to shoot more accurately can

 

[Smok3y]

Well either way a heavier gun is harder for the shooter to move but is it necessarily more accurate?

Less jump in the rifle helps you stay on target. Heavier also means your small movements have less effect.

I only use MLOK weights right now and I also have my KRG buttstock on another rifle loaded with birdshot, and I can say that it definitely helps.

 

[Dairyboy]

Redneck ingenuity at its finest lol 2lbs 10oz within 2oz of my mini tripod. Total guess on the length and got lucky. Old hay fork that broke and cut the end off as the threads were around 30mm. Fit the ring perfectly. Also old low mount vortex rings I haven't found a gun to really ever fit on. Cost me about 5min time to cut it lol. Will clean it up and shot of black paint and will be good to go.

 

[CTAirgunner]

The one thing my Paradigm needs is addable weight up front.

I shot 2 cards today, I'm still learning this rifle and my positioning with it , trying this and that, I held it very hard on the last 5 on the card, 3 bullseyes in a row, legit bullseyes.

If I can get the front of this rifle to be a little more controlled...

 

[Dairyboy]

I finished mine up on the bench wire wheel and then used spray on bed liner.