Marauder 2026 Marauder, any thoughts

[bchannell]

I just read the 2026 Marauder teaser and it certainly checks all the boxes. Looks like a great gun to me. I did think the plenum looks too large, like somewhere in the 80-100cc range. Looks like tuning it down could be a bit problematic if the plenum is huge. But it will make big power with it, if that's what you're after. It's getting to the point, that if you want to stay subsonic and push heavy slugs, that manufacturers are going to have to make two different versions of rifles. Pellet rifles that push heavy pellets above say 1050fps are not really feasible and yet it would take that same power to push a heavy slug to say 1000fps. That kind of available power would cause the plenum to sip very little air in a moderate, say 850fps tune in a 177cal rifle, and would not be consistent, as refresh gets to be problematic. We see this same issue with something like the FX Wildcat/Maverick, with an 89cc plenum. Now, I fully understand that most buyers of the WC/Mav, aren't looking to shoot 8.4gr pellets at 850fps, but there are a lot of folks with many different power expectations buying the Marauder. I think, in a lot of cases, we're getting out of hand with power and moving into a different kind of pellet gun world.

 

[Pumacarl]

I think, in a lot of cases, we're getting out of hand with power and moving into a different kind of pellet gun world.

We have already completed the move. Some are just shooting slugs and the power is just barely there from all but the top tier. It is not a pellet gun world, as you say, at all, it's slugs. The pellet shooters for the most part aren't going anywhere either. The power is fine there. I entirely agree with you that they purposely should sell slug guns and pellet shooters as such. This new Mrod for instance could set an example if they released a slug version and a pellet version so people could buy the flavor they're after right up front instead of having to do the ridiculous aftermarket shopping spree that everyone has been doing for the past couple of years, or the even worse, sell a product that can do both just ok. yuck

 

[bchannell]

Yes, it's a great opportunity, and maybe down the road they'll go that route. A smaller plenum, less hammer spring, maybe a bit smaller port size, and you've got a pellet shooter.

No matter, I'm glad to see Crosman developing a new rifle, any new rifle, and we'll see how it goes.

 

[BenjeneerJohn]

I just read the 2026 Marauder teaser and it certainly checks all the boxes. Looks like a great gun to me. I did think the plenum looks too large, like somewhere in the 80-100cc range. Looks like tuning it down could be a bit problematic if the plenum is huge. But it will make big power with it, if that's what you're after. It's getting to the point, that if you want to stay subsonic and push heavy slugs, that manufacturers are going to have to make two different versions of rifles. Pellet rifles that push heavy pellets above say 1050fps are not really feasible and yet it would take that same power to push a heavy slug to say 1000fps. That kind of available power would cause the plenum to sip very little air in a moderate, say 850fps tune in a 177cal rifle, and would not be consistent, as refresh gets to be problematic. We see this same issue with something like the FX Wildcat/Maverick, with an 89cc plenum. Now, I fully understand that most buyers of the WC/Mav, aren't looking to shoot 8.4gr pellets at 850fps, but there are a lot of folks with many different power expectations buying the Marauder. I think, in a lot of cases, we're getting out of hand with power and moving into a different kind of pellet gun world.

I have not played with a.177 or.22 yet. They will come soon. In.25 you can drop the regulator down to 1000psi and shoot 25g pellets at 830fps.

The hammer and spring are really lite so I am sure I will be able to set it up for sub 20 fpe in.177. I plan on running a Gen 3 for Field Target next spring.

Big plenum allows for big power but does not mean you cannot run the reg low and make pellet power.

John

 

[Dogowski]

I have not played with a.177 or.22 yet. They will come soon. In.25 you can drop the regulator down to 1000psi and shoot 25g pellets at 830fps.

The hammer and spring are really lite so I am sure I will be able to set it up for sub 20 fpe in.177. I plan on running a Gen 3 for Field Target next spring.

Big plenum allows for big power but does not mean you cannot run the reg low and make pellet power.

John

What's the starting sales price going to be? This is one we've been waiting for!

 

[Danman]

I just read the 2026 Marauder teaser and it certainly checks all the boxes. Looks like a great gun to me. I did think the plenum looks too large, like somewhere in the 80-100cc range. Looks like tuning it down could be a bit problematic if the plenum is huge. But it will make big power with it, if that's what you're after. It's getting to the point, that if you want to stay subsonic and push heavy slugs, that manufacturers are going to have to make two different versions of rifles. Pellet rifles that push heavy pellets above say 1050fps are not really feasible and yet it would take that same power to push a heavy slug to say 1000fps. That kind of available power would cause the plenum to sip very little air in a moderate, say 850fps tune in a 177cal rifle, and would not be consistent, as refresh gets to be problematic. We see this same issue with something like the FX Wildcat/Maverick, with an 89cc plenum. Now, I fully understand that most buyers of the WC/Mav, aren't looking to shoot 8.4gr pellets at 850fps, but there are a lot of folks with many different power expectations buying the Marauder. I think, in a lot of cases, we're getting out of hand with power and moving into a different kind of pellet gun world.

People often tune their airguns up chasing power, and now we may have to tune em down....I'll take the later myself in most cases
About plenum size...I used to think the same (small is better if your not after power and want consistency) but then along comes the Blackwolf with its biggest plenum ever (in a Daystate) and what do they offer? An add on plenum system "Volumax" that pushes the total volume beyond 100cc. Soren Drost has a beast of a .177 Blackwolf and got that plenum add on and is pushing "heavy" .177 slugs very fast, with a low reg pressure! There's no way he'd run that setup if it wasn't consistent. I assumed it would only make sense if you were after big power in say a .25 or .30cal. Turns out I was wrong, as it can and is being done well in some pcps. I must admit though pellet manufacturers need to make heavier .25 ammo, there are few options above 30gr! Gotta bring (pellet) speeds down and big ol heavy pellets is one good way to do it.

 

[Billm]

People often tune their airguns up chasing power, and now we may have to tune em down....I'll take the later myself in most cases
About plenum size...I used to think the same (small is better if your not after power and want consistency) but then along comes the Blackwolf with its biggest plenum ever (in a Daystate) and what do they offer? An add on plenum system "Volumax" that pushes the total volume beyond 100cc. Soren Drost has a beast of a .177 Blackwolf and got that plenum add on and is pushing "heavy" .177 slugs very fast, with a low reg pressure! There's no way he'd run that setup if it wasn't consistent. I assumed it would only make sense if you were after big power in say a .25 or .30cal. Turns out I was wrong, as it can and is being done well in some pcps. I must admit though pellet manufacturers need to make heavier .25 ammo, there are few options above 30gr! Gotta bring (pellet) speeds down and big ol heavy pellets is one good way to do it.

Yes, I too thought a larger volume plenum might be a detriment at lower power. Apparently not. I also would rather have a little too much power, rather than not enough. The one thing that I’ve noticed with the .30 Sonoran is that it can’t shoot 40% of the available slugs because of their heavier weight.