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Others Low-End of Top Tier Scopes: Night Force, Tract, March Scopes

A couple of threads I found helpful on Tract Toric scopes

www.snipershide.com

Tract Toric

Looking around and I really don't see many threads on the Tract optical qualities, anyone have one of these and care to elaborate on the glass, any comparisons? Of course the manufacture sings the highest praises about their sourced SCHOTT glass, but it's always better to get real world...
www.snipershide.com www.snipershide.com

www.snipershide.com

Rifle Scopes - Tract Toric 4-20 vs other Tract models?

I have the Tract Toric 4-20x50 PRS MRAD. I really like the reticle and the scope. However, the tunneling effect when looking through it is worse than I would expect for a scope this price. Is tunneling an issue with the 4-25x50?
www.snipershide.com www.snipershide.com
 
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I have an opportunity to grab this Tract Toric 2.5-15x44 UHD FFP IR for around $800.
tractoptics.com

TORIC UHD 30mm 2.5-15X44 FFP Illuminated MRAD/MRAD

TORIC UHD 2.5-15x44 with the standard glass-etched MRAD reticle and matched MRAD turrets at .1 per click. 30mm tube, illuminated, 29.8 oz.
tractoptics.com tractoptics.com
I am not in need of this scope and have spent a good amount on substantial purchases in recent months. I have a scope or two that I bought a while back that I still haven’t mounted, but I do use variations of said scopes on other rifles so there’s that. Right now Hawke Sidewinder, Athlon Helos BTR gen2 and Sightron STAC, Vector Continental have established my sight standard for decent glass. Anyhow, I’d like a little encouragement one way or the other about a purchasing decision. Yes, I know we enable one another to buy things related to our hobby.

My dilemma is considering that prices are going up and it’s in sale, I really don’t know if I’m missing something significant in this scope since I own no high-end traditional riflescopes. I don’t even know if this is considered high-end but it would be to me for where I am in my optics journey. BUT, I also don't know if this little tank of a scope will perform better in low light. If it does, I have no frame of reference to understand how it might compare or have an advantage over the glass in the aforementioned scopes. The Nightforce NX8 2.5-20x50 FFP Mil-C is another I'd like to try, but costs about $1200 more w/14% off.


I also wonder how it compares (optically) to this March scope that costs 4x more.


If any of you have experience with the Tract Toric line I’d like to hear from you.
 
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JungleShooter said:
Well, the Athlon Ares ETR UHD 3-18x50 FFP MOA just dropped down to $584 -- pretty spectacular price.

Yeah, not top tier.... Will you notice the difference? Maybe.
Got your 50mm objective.
Full features.
31.4oz is more than your 28oz.

Cheers,

Matthias

Link:
www.scopelist.com

Athlon Ares ETR 3-18x50mm APLR6 FFP IR MOA Riflescope 212105

No Sales Tax | Free Expedited Shipping | FREE SHIPPING on Athlon Ares ETR 3-18x50mm APLR6 FFP IR MOA Riflescope 212105
www.scopelist.com
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@JungleShooter This is also an Ares model that looks appealing and on sale for around $654 right now for BF/CM.

Product Description

Product Description | Camera Land NY
cameralandny.com cameralandny.com

I don't know how it compares or if it's even comparable to the Tract Toric. The weight and length are close. It has a larger objective. I'm more so interested in comparing glass.

These guys discuss Athlon models vs Tract Toric models

www.snipershide.com

Rifle Scopes - Athlon Midas Glass Quality Equivalents?

Theres been QC issues specific to the Ares ETR 4.5-30x56 and Midas TAC 5-25x56 34mm. I personally skipped over the ETR and got a Cronus BTR instead fir just a little extra cash for Japan made instead of Chinese. I think it's insane to buy an Ares ETR especially for the price even for $900 on...
www.snipershide.com www.snipershide.com

I also read that this Maven RS1.2 2.5-15x44mm FFP is made in the same LOW factory as the Tract Toric. I'm not familiar with this company, but their warranty seems excellent from what I read on their site. I just wanted to post this one so I can look into it further. It seems comparable. The RS1.2 MRAD has an interesting reticle. I wonder how it performs at min magnification.

mavenbuilt.com

RS1.2 - 2.5-15x44 FFP

Buy Maven Outdoor Equipment Company RS1.2 Riflescopes. Our RS Series Riflescopes stack up with the most celebrated and expensive scopes in the world…bar none.
mavenbuilt.com mavenbuilt.com

Here's a thread comparing Tract Toric 2.5-15x44 FFP and Maven RS.1 2.5-15x44 FFP MRAD

www.snipershide.com

Maven rs 1.2 2.5-15 vs Tract Toric 2.5-15

Iluminated on both models. This is for a hunting rifle After suffering from anaylsis paralysis, I think I've narrowed it down to these two. This is exactly the magnification range that I want. Most specs are nearly identical, both made at LOW. Both have well designed, usable reticles throughout...
www.snipershide.com www.snipershide.com
 
Ezana4CE said:
I have an opportunity to grab this Tract Toric 2.5-15x44 UHD FFP IR for around $800.
tractoptics.com

TORIC UHD 30mm 2.5-15X44 FFP Illuminated MRAD/MRAD

TORIC UHD 2.5-15x44 with the standard glass-etched MRAD reticle and matched MRAD turrets at .1 per click. 30mm tube, illuminated, 29.8 oz.
tractoptics.com tractoptics.com
I am not in need of this scope and have spent a good amount on substantial purchases in recent months. I have a scope or two that I bought a while back that I still haven’t mounted, but I do use variations of said scopes on other rifles so there’s that. Right now Hawke Sidewinder, Athlon Helos BTR gen2 and Sightron STAC, Vector Continental have established my sight standard for decent glass. Anyhow, I’d like a little encouragement one way or the other about a purchasing decision. Yes, I know we enable one another to buy things related to our hobby.

My dilemma is considering that prices are going up and it’s in sale, I really don’t know if I’m missing something significant in this scope since I own no high-end traditional riflescopes. I don’t even know if this is considered high-end but it would be to me for where I am in my optics journey. BUT, I also don't know if this little tank of a scope will perform better in low light. If it does, I have no frame of reference to understand how it might compare or have an advantage over the glass in the aforementioned scopes. The Nightforce NX8 2.5-20x50 FFP Mil-C is another I'd like to try, but costs about $1200 more w/14% off.


I also wonder how it compares (optically) to this March scope that costs 4x more.


If any of you have experience with the Tract Toric line I’d like to hear from you.
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I think I'll wait.
 
Ezana4CE said:
@JungleShooter This is also an Ares model that looks appealing and on sale for around $654 right now for BF/CM.

Product Description

Product Description | Camera Land NY
cameralandny.com cameralandny.com

I don't know how it compares or if it's even comparable to the Tract Toric. The weight and length are close. It has a larger objective. I'm more so interested in comparing glass.

These guys discuss Athlon models vs Tract Toric models

www.snipershide.com

Rifle Scopes - Athlon Midas Glass Quality Equivalents?

Theres been QC issues specific to the Ares ETR 4.5-30x56 and Midas TAC 5-25x56 34mm. I personally skipped over the ETR and got a Cronus BTR instead fir just a little extra cash for Japan made instead of Chinese. I think it's insane to buy an Ares ETR especially for the price even for $900 on...
www.snipershide.com www.snipershide.com

I also read that this Maven RS1.2 2.5-15x44mm FFP is made in the same LOW factory as the Tract Toric. I'm not familiar with this company, but their warranty seems excellent from what I read on their site. I just wanted to post this one so I can look into it further. It seems comparable. The RS1.2 MRAD has an interesting reticle. I wonder how it performs at min magnification.

mavenbuilt.com

RS1.2 - 2.5-15x44 FFP

Buy Maven Outdoor Equipment Company RS1.2 Riflescopes. Our RS Series Riflescopes stack up with the most celebrated and expensive scopes in the world…bar none.
mavenbuilt.com mavenbuilt.com

Here's a thread comparing Tract Toric 2.5-15x44 FFP and Maven RS.1 2.5-15x44 FFP MRAD

www.snipershide.com

Maven rs 1.2 2.5-15 vs Tract Toric 2.5-15

Iluminated on both models. This is for a hunting rifle After suffering from anaylsis paralysis, I think I've narrowed it down to these two. This is exactly the magnification range that I want. Most specs are nearly identical, both made at LOW. Both have well designed, usable reticles throughout...
www.snipershide.com www.snipershide.com
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If you don’t consider an Athlon Ares ETR or the step up (Cronus) as low end of the Top Tier scopes, you certainly shouldn’t consider the Tract Toric scopes to be in that class.
 
Centercut said:
If you don’t consider an Athlon Ares ETR or the step up (Cronus) as low end of the Top Tier scopes, you certainly shouldn’t consider the Tract Toric scopes to be in that class.
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@Centercut I don’t know much about them other than things that I’ve read. When I viewed the Cronus, it struck me as more of a target shooting scope. I’m looking for hunting scopes. So far I’ve gotten familiar with the Helos.

Do the Cronus and Ares excel in low-light settings?
 
Ezana4CE said:
@Centercut I don’t know much about them other than things that I’ve read. When I viewed the Cronus, it struck me as more of a target shooting scope. I’m looking for hunting scopes. So far I’ve gotten familiar with the Helos.

Do the Cronus and Ares excel in low-light settings?
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I have one of the Athlon Ares ETR 3-18x. Comes in Mil or MOA. Great glass, great hunting or PRS-NRL-22 type scope.
 
Ezana4CE said:
I have an opportunity to grab this Tract Toric 2.5-15x44 UHD FFP IR for around $800.
tractoptics.com

TORIC UHD 30mm 2.5-15X44 FFP Illuminated MRAD/MRAD

TORIC UHD 2.5-15x44 with the standard glass-etched MRAD reticle and matched MRAD turrets at .1 per click. 30mm tube, illuminated, 29.8 oz.
tractoptics.com tractoptics.com
I am not in need of this scope and have spent a good amount on substantial purchases in recent months. I have a scope or two that I bought a while back that I still haven’t mounted, but I do use variations of said scopes on other rifles so there’s that. Right now Hawke Sidewinder, Athlon Helos BTR gen2 and Sightron STAC, Vector Continental have established my sight standard for decent glass. Anyhow, I’d like a little encouragement one way or the other about a purchasing decision. Yes, I know we enable one another to buy things related to our hobby.

My dilemma is considering that prices are going up and it’s in sale, I really don’t know if I’m missing something significant in this scope since I own no high-end traditional riflescopes. I don’t even know if this is considered high-end but it would be to me for where I am in my optics journey. BUT, I also don't know if this little tank of a scope will perform better in low light. If it does, I have no frame of reference to understand how it might compare or have an advantage over the glass in the aforementioned scopes. The Nightforce NX8 2.5-20x50 FFP Mil-C is another I'd like to try, but costs about $1200 more w/14% off.


I also wonder how it compares (optically) to this March scope that costs 4x more.


If any of you have experience with the Tract Toric line I’d like to hear from you.
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I’ve some small experience with this scope. The build quality is excellent as expected, however the IQ and parallax focusing ability are a bit of a disappointment to me. I believe it would be a great hunting scope but would not recommend it for HFT/UFT or most competitions. YMMV
 
JoeWillie said:
I’ve some small experience with this scope. The build quality is excellent as expected, however the IQ and parallax focusing ability are a bit of a disappointment to me. I believe it would be a great hunting scope but would not recommend it for HFT/UFT or most competitions. YMMV
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@JoeWillie Thank you for that information.
 
Just to throw one more into your scope mix:
GPO GPOTAC 8X 2.5-20x50 FFP

GPO was founded by former Zeiss employees.

This particular model:
FoV = 49ft: Has a significantly wider FoV at 2.5x than the common 42y (@100y).

25.3oz (717g) light.

But the reticle (BRi) lacks windage holds.

14.8" (38cm) long.

140moa of elevation adjustment.


😊 Matthias


GPO Website:
gpo-usa.com

GPOTAC 8X 2.5-20x50i - GPO USA

This tactical riflescope was designed for the most serious optical users who need an optic that performs at the highest level. Built on a 34mm main tube and packed with industry-best glass components, its magnifying mil radiant reticle is located in the first focal plane.
gpo-usa.com gpo-usa.com


Seller — at 918$ (reduced from the typical 1400$):
 
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JungleShooter said:
Just to throw one more into your scope mix:
GPO GPOTAC 8X 2.5-20x50 FFP

GPO was founded by former Zeiss employees.

This particular model:
FoV = 49ft: Has a significantly wider FoV at 2.5x than the common 42y (@100y).

25.3oz (717g) light.

But the reticle (BRi) lacks windage holds.

14.8" (38cm) long.

140moa of elevation adjustment.


😊 Matthias


GPO Website:
gpo-usa.com

GPOTAC 8X 2.5-20x50i - GPO USA

This tactical riflescope was designed for the most serious optical users who need an optic that performs at the highest level. Built on a 34mm main tube and packed with industry-best glass components, its magnifying mil radiant reticle is located in the first focal plane.
gpo-usa.com gpo-usa.com


Seller — at 918$ (reduced from the typical 1400$):
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@JungleShooter I'm not a fan of the reticle in your post. This is closer to what I like after briefly glossing over it, but I'm not into illuminated red dots for my airguns.


I prefer the reticle to be illuminated. I'm in no rush. If you see something that might fit the bill, please continue to post those links.
 
Ezana4CE said:
@JungleShooter I'm not a fan of the reticle in your post. This is closer to what I like after briefly glossing over it, but I'm not into illuminated red dots for my airguns.


I prefer the reticle to be illuminted. I'm in no rush. If you see something that might fit the bill, please continue to post those links.
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Yes, I am no fan of that reticle either — no wind holds, and and only the center dot illuminated.

The scope you referenced —
GPO Centuri 3-18x44 (MOAi ret.) —
is also available with a 50mm objective —
BUT they are both unfortunatly SFP's....
Most from the Centuri line are SPF's.

Matthias
 
JungleShooter said:
Yes, I am no fan of that reticle either — no wind holds, and and only the center dot illuminated.

The scope you referenced —
GPO Centuri 3-18x44 (MOAi ret.) —
is also available with a 50mm objective —
BUT they are both unfortunatly SFP's....
Most from the Centuri line are SPF's.

Matthias
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@JungleShooter That's what I didn't see specified and I got pulled away from that tab by calls. I was trying to look at the body to determine the focal plane. Thanks for that bit of info. I'd read about GPO on The Hide. I also read about Maven. Those Maven scopes look really nice.
 
 
 
Ezana4CE said:
I don’t have experience with top-tier traditional riflescopes. However, I have been looking at Tract, March, and Night Force scopes for hunting in low-light environments. In your experience, which of these brands have good light transmission and image quality in low-light? I prefer something under 28oz within a magnification range of no lower or greater than 2-20x magnification and preferable with a 50mm objective bell. If can be 1”, 30mm, or 34mm tube. I’m only interested in FFP scopes.
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If I were thinking of hunting again I would step up and get Night Force Our Military uses this brand they are next to impossible to break or damage they hold settings and are a robust scope you only need one.
 
Ezana4CE said:
I would like a lower minimum parallax setting [on the Schmidt & Bender 3-18x44 FFP scope].

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Yeah, I would, too!! 😆

Especially for $3.800 (that's the discounted sales price, not MRSP)....! 🤦🏻‍♂️

22y minimum parallax is not acceptable for my kind of shooting.
If most scope manufacturers* can get us a 10y parallax —
WHY NOT Schmidt & Bender, Leupold, Burris, Nikon, SIG Sauer, Crimson Trace, Kahles, Steiner, Zeiss [few!]❓❗❓

*Nightforce (many, and increasing), Zero Compromise, March, German Precision Optics GPO, Hawke, SWFA, Element, Bushnell (many), Arken (many), Athlon (many), IOR/Valdada, Primary Arms (many), Sightron (many), Vortex (some), Falcon (UK), Riton, Cabela, Optisan, Apex (Canada), MTC, Vector, Trijicon (many), Swampfox, etc. etc.

Matthias
 

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