Spring/Piston Repeating break barrel/under levers

[Doc Holiday]

Was looking are repeating break barrels and noticed most are gas springs. Not many steel spring repeaters. Why so? Also from all the reviews, looks like Gamo is head and shoulders above the rest. It would seem this is a hot market and some higher end players would join. Anyone have a repeater that likes it? Or doesn’t like it? I also noticed most are break barrels and very few underlevers.

 

[hameditor]

Great question! HAM tested the original Gamo multi-shot Swarm Maxxim and liked everything except the underwhelming accuracy. The newer models look to have superior magazine systems, for sure.

More recently, we've tested the Umarex Emerge underlever. It's a big, heavy gas ram repeater. Accuracy was, again, not as good as we had hoped.

Like you, I would be very interested to hear everyone's opinions!

 

[IAMzehTOASTY1]

Great question! HAM tested the original Gamo multi-shot Swarm Maxxim and liked everything except the underwhelming accuracy. The newer models look to have superior magazine systems, for sure.

More recently, we've tested the Umarex Emerge underlever. It's a big, heavy gas ram repeater. Accuracy was, again, not as good as we had hoped.

Like you, I would be very interested to hear everyone's opinions!

Gas rams need ALOT of breaking in from my experience. Polish up the barrel inside. Put a sleeve of lead downrange. Then test again? my ruger used to be all over the place accuracy. Going on 9 years later; it's an absolute beast compared to my winchester that's not even a year old yet.

 

[Hoppalong Doc]

One likely reason that break-barrels are more popular than under-levers is that the mechanics of the under-levers adds significant weight over that of a break-barrel. My TX200 weighs in at over 9 lbs before mounting its one and a half pound scope. The only break-barrel I've got is about six pounds. The TX200 is fine shooting from the bench, but I wouldn't want to lug it through the bush on a hunting expedition. I'm old and sitting in the shade plinking at targets suits me just fine.Orv.

 

[Bladebum]

I had a the gamo swaarm in .22, absolute garbage and I mean terrible. Accuracy, reliability, quality of build were all terrible.

For the cost of one of those, its nearly impossible not to reccomend any of the great budget pcp options on the market to new shooters. I say that because the gamo repeaters are the first thing that catches new shooters eye. So many times I have redirected newbies to budget pcps over them for thier superior performance in every category.

 

[Hateful McNasty]

Well... the gamo gen 3i is supposed to help resolve in the autoloader issue of damaging the pellets as there loading../ less fliers better accuracy. But still i guess a guy needs to find the better pellets that cycle slick and smoothly in and through the loading process.. weather spring or pcp thats a thing .. a pellet that dont cycle right aint going to fly right

 

[Farmplinker2]

Was looking are repeating break barrels and noticed most are gas springs. Not many steel spring repeaters. How so? Also from all the reviews, looks like Gamo is head and shoulders above the rest. It would seem this is a hot markets and some higher end players would join. Anyone have a repeater that likes it? Or doesn’t like it? I also noticed most are break barrels and very few underlevers.

Depends on what you're doing with it. Field Target? Hunting/pesting over 30 yards? Not one of the mag guns then. Plinking and short-range hunting? They're fine. Ammunition sensitivity seems to be a problem. Polymag sells magazine specific pellets. Too long pellets= jamming.

 

[MountainSportAirguns]

The Swarm Magnum I had was in fact probably one of the worst shooting break barrels I've ever used. The earlier, lower powered models shot really nice. I'd say for any sort of competitive accuracy I'd stay away from anything magnum. My other issue with Gamo was the scope they provided in the package, it was completely unusable and they even acknowledged that over emails. Its nice to have a repeater but to me it wasn't game changing performance.

 

[Hateful McNasty]

I shoot a gamo package scope , works well. Of course it took 3 and some scotch tape to make one " useable" but it is .

Tape to hold the power ring still from recoil (turns clockwise as you shoot)


On the gun


50y (177. Cphp)

Only complaints with gamo is there stick in the mud attitude toward end-user parts or maintenance stuff . Pretty selfish and near non-existent. My whisper fusion mach 1 shoots as good as my hw .. saddly after 5 hard shooting years i cant get a simple piston seal for it here in the usa ..

 

[hameditor]

I shoot a gamo package scope , works well. Of course it took 3 and some scotch tape to make one " useable" but it is .

Tape to hold the power ring still from recoil (turns clockwise as you shoot)
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50y (177. Cphp)
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Only complaints with gamo is there stick in the mud attitude toward end-user parts or maintenance stuff . Pretty selfish and near non-existent. My whisper fusion mach 1 shoots as good as my hw .. saddly after 5 hard shooting years i cant get a simple piston seal for it here in the usa ..

Yes, unfortunately Gamo is well known for not supporting their products with any after-sales parts at all here in the USA.

I believe the only way to get around this is to send the gun to Gamo and have them repair it for you. But - of course - shipping costs (both ways) are likely more than the value of the product.

 

[Bladebum]

I shoot a gamo package scope , works well. Of course it took 3 and some scotch tape to make one " useable" but it is .

Tape to hold the power ring still from recoil (turns clockwise as you shoot)
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On the gun
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50y (177. Cphp)
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Only complaints with gamo is there stick in the mud attitude toward end-user parts or maintenance stuff . Pretty selfish and near non-existent. My whisper fusion mach 1 shoots as good as my hw .. saddly after 5 hard shooting years i cant get a simple piston seal for it here in the usa ..

Might get ahold of tom at vortek, he makes seals for many guns and if he doesn't have one he might be able to accommodate a custom seal.

 

[Hateful McNasty]

Yes, unfortunately Gamo is well known for not supporting their products with any after-sales parts at all here in the USA.

I believe the only way to get around this is to send the gun to Gamo and have them repair it for you. But - of course - shipping costs (both ways) are likely more than the value of the product.

Ya, the ol " send it in" let our "gunsmiths" look at it ..lol. like whos that ? Some guy you pulled off the street to fill a job opening? Does he know how i want to do the gun to my satisfaction? .. i mean a simple piston seal and youd think i was going to convert there single shot gun in to a weapon of mass destruction ( full auto, grenade and rocket launcher, nuked tiped ,ect..).

Might get ahold of tom at vortek, he makes seals for many guns and if he doesn't have one he might be able to accommodate a custom seal.

Nope neither arh . It's custom air seals Australia or nothing on that .. then notice they (cas) sell at ebay and amazon on a lot of stuff , but never the gamo stuff.

Personly i think gamousa been sued big and then sues anybody that offers a part for there latest guns like the 33mm seal.

These guns with that seal ( 2 types blue or yellowish that fits different piston buttons) been around for some time and nobody here has one or can get one ? Funny..

Youd think someone like arh or vortec or whoever in a airgun shop say pry air would biy a handfull to just offer . They dont and won't..

My gamos been pretty good shooters and pretty hard hitting but a guy may as well face the fact its a disposable gun unless a older model that been license out to other brands that do offer parts .. like the 440(??) How many names that bern under..lol. ( and you can get springs and seals for it easy).

 

[hameditor]

I would have thought that the "Right To Repair" law would apply to airguns, thus making parts available to owners. But maybe not. I'm not a lawyer...

 

[BanjomanMI76]

I would have thought that the "Right To Repair" law would apply to airguns, thus making parts available to owners. But maybe not. I'm not a lawyer...

It's a wonder in today's litigious society that someone in the air gun community hasn't taken Gamo to court over this law.

 

[Hateful McNasty]

I would have thought that the "Right To Repair" law would apply to airguns, thus making parts available to owners. But maybe not. I'm not a lawyer...

I dont think that ever passed to be worth while to pretty much anything . Seems your no better off overall. Not broadly applied to much and staye by state not federal

Right to repair: all the latest news and updates

Lawmakers are cracking down on product irreparability.

www.theverge.com

 

[Hateful McNasty]

It's a wonder in today's litigious society that someone in the air gun community hasn't taken Gamo to court over this law.

Probably cause no frivolous liability and payout involved for a individuals stupidy

 

[Gumby0961]

Was looking are repeating break barrels and noticed most are gas springs. Not many steel spring repeaters. How so? Also from all the reviews, looks like Gamo is head and shoulders above the rest. It would seem this is a hot markets and some higher end players would join. Anyone have a repeater that likes it? Or doesn’t like it? I also noticed most are break barrels and very few underlevers.

Was looking are repeating break barrels and noticed most are gas springs. Not many steel spring repeaters. How so? Also from all the reviews, looks like Gamo is head and shoulders above the rest. It would seem this is a hot markets and some higher end players would join. Anyone have a repeater that likes it? Or doesn’t like it? I also noticed most are break barrels and very few underlevers.

I have a RWS 300R its an underlever repeater. I bought it over 20 years ago, I dont think it was on the market for very long. People had problems breaking the pin the pushed the pellet into the chamber. (people not reading the instructions before using). I love mine never had a problem, very good accuracy, good power.

 

[Beanflip]

I bought the Gamo Swarm Whisper Fusion in .177. I enjoy it quite a bit. The auto loading really is convenient and adds to the fun.

I hope it works for a long time but if not I guess I’ll make better choices next time.

 

[Doc Holiday]

Nice. I don’t remember those but found a review of them. Link is part 2 but part 1 link can be found at the beginning of part 2

Diana 300R repeating underlever: Part 2 | Blog | Pyramyd AIR

by B.B. Pelletier Part 1 Today you'll read part 2 of Vince's guest blog. As usual, he's done an extremely thorough job. If you'd like to write a guest post for this blog, please email us. Bloggers must be proficient in the simple html that Blogger software uses, know how to take clear photos and

www.pyramydair.com

 

[Gumby0961]

Nice. I don’t remember those but found a review of them. Link is part 2 but part 1 link can be found at the beginning of part 2

Diana 300R repeating underlever: Part 2 | Blog | Pyramyd AIR

by B.B. Pelletier Part 1 Today you'll read part 2 of Vince's guest blog. As usual, he's done an extremely thorough job. If you'd like to write a guest post for this blog, please email us. Bloggers must be proficient in the simple html that Blogger software uses, know how to take clear photos and

www.pyramydair.com

Thanks for posting the link, sounds like my rifle maybe a collectors item someday. Glad I saved all the literature and the box. Never had a problem with mine, mostly because it's the only rifle I won't let any one barrow.