You can’t Cant

[Dadwag]

I just returned to shooting yesterday after a lay off to get caught up with massive yard work and other commitments. Any way, my accuracy wasn’t good and I couldn’t figure it out. Pellets?temperature(90+),scope, loose screws? Later after dealing with disappointment I was analyzing where my shots were going. I kind of realized I was putting some Cant on my rifle. Today I concentrated and kept level with good hold and follow through. Much better and very satisfying. Basics count so muchStay well all

 

[wolfmangreg]

It's amazing how much a little cant will change your POI. At long range it can move you out of the same ZIP code as the target! Even at short range, it can put you out of a chipmunk noggin or a 1/2" kz on a field target.
Installing a bubble level is on the short list of things I do right away with any new-to-me rifle.

 

[Danman]

It's amazing how much a little cant will change your POI. At long range it can move you out of the same ZIP code as the target! Even at short range, it can put you out of a chipmunk noggin or a 1/2" kz on a field target.
Installing a bubble level is on the short list of things I do right away with any new-to-me rifle.

Amen! I run one on all 3 of my go-to Airguns. And all 3 are different styles....It's amazing how often I'll line up on a target...take a quick look at the level...fix the cant...and then take my shot. I actually have been meaning to try this on paper: take a few groups canted on purpose at different ranges just to see results.

 

[FL22]

Great, something else I want… I mean need definitely need .

 

[BanjomanMI76]

Amen! I run one on all 3 of my go-to Airguns. And all 3 are different styles....It's amazing how often I'll line up on a target...take a quick look at the level...fix the cant...and then take my shot. I actually have been meaning to try this on paper: take a few groups canted on purpose at different ranges just to see results.

Got any suggestions or recommendations? One with a magnet would be nice instead of being specific for a rail.

 

[Danman]

Got any suggestions or recommendations? One with a magnet would be nice instead of being specific for a rail.

Agreed, I had to grind a bit off the Hawke level so it fit my Ghost rail properly. The S510 level mounts directly to the 30mm scope tube and its my favorite of the 3 that i have, as you set it level regardless of a poorly machined rail/scope mounts, etc. I believe the magnetic ones are more for when you initially set it all up, and.... I'd be afraid it would fall off and get lost.

 

[duchunter007]

Great, something else I want… I mean need definitely need .

They are invaluable! Your accuracy will improve when using a level of some sort.

 

[Billm]

Yeah, I mentioned that I wanted to go high tech on mine. When I get one that works I will report back lol. Waiting on #3 in a week.

 

[Danman]

Yeah, I mentioned that I wanted to go high tech on mine. When I get one that works I will report back lol. Waiting on #3 in a week.

Yikes....Is that some fancy electronic one then?

 

[duchunter007]

Yeah, I mentioned that I wanted to go high tech on mine. When I get one that works I will report back lol. Waiting on #3 in a week.

I have the SG Pulse as well and I love it, quick to transfer from one-gun to another and easy to see while shooting, I shoot with both eyes open and that helps!!

 

[duchunter007]

Yikes....Is that some fancy electronic one then?

Danman, yes, it is electronic but reasonable priced at $152, it is very easy to move from on gun to another

 

[Billm]

@Danman yes but I am waiting on my third unit hoping to get one that actually works. If you order one from Amazon right now there’s a very good chance that it is dead on arrival. That is straight from the manufacturer. They know that they have a large batch in the wild that they know are defective. They asked me not to return the second unit to Amazon and have sent me a third unit and a return label for the second unit. They basically power on and shut off after 30-60 seconds. They calibrate, but then reset and shut off. The company has been very polite and responsive and so I am going to give it another chance. I didn’t even buy it solely for the cant indicator. It has some great tools for finding your shooting errors and helping you with bench rest form. I can’t really shoot right now and thought this would be a good project to keep me occupied- not lol. The bad ones are not just at Amazon. One dealer posted that everyone unit in his inventory was defective when checked. Stuff happens, but the firearms and airgun industry just seem to operate on the “ignore it and it will go away” principle, hardly pro active the 250z comes to mind.

 

[duchunter007]

@Danman yes but I am waiting on my third unit hoping to get one that actually works. If you order one from Amazon right now there’s a very good chance that it is dead on arrival. That is straight from the manufacturer. They know that they have a large batch in the wild that they know are defective. They asked me not to return the second unit to Amazon and have sent me a third unit and a return label for the second unit. They basically power on and shut off after 30-60 seconds. They calibrate, but then reset and shut off. The company has been very polite and responsive and so I am going to give it another chance. I didn’t even buy it solely for the cant indicator. It has some great tools for finding your shooting errors and helping you with bench rest form. I can’t really shoot right now and thought this would be a good project to keep me occupied- not lol. The bad ones are not just at Amazon. One dealer posted that everyone unit in his inventory was defective when checked. Stuff happens, but the firearms and airgun industry just seem to operate on the “ignore it and it will go away” principle, hardly pro active the 250z comes to mind.

I ordered mine directly from Shooters Global, and I see that Amazon has them a little cheaper. I have a friend who bought one and was experiencing a similar issue with it, where it would shut off very quickly. However, they replaced it quickly, and he now has one that works very well. Customer service seems very good.

 

[Danman]

I ordered mine directly from Shooters Global, and I see that Amazon has them a little cheaper. I have a friend who bought one and was experiencing a similar issue with it, where it would shut off very quickly. However, they replaced it quickly, and he now has one that works very well. Customer service seems very good.

Dang, this reminds me of the Sekhmet gauge fiasco....50% of the people who have them love em and the other half got duds, or they died quickly (mostly Gen 1s) Good customer support wins in the end for sure! And....thanks for reminding to stick with mechanical here too guys

 

[duchunter007]

Dang, this reminds me of the Sekhmet gauge fiasco....50% of the people who have them love em and the other half got duds, or they died quickly (mostly Gen 1s) Good customer support wins in the end for sure! And....thanks for reminding to stick with mechanical here too guys

@Danman but digital is so much fun . When they work they work awesome !!!

 

[Danman]

The cant got me good today while plinking.
I was seeing what I could do with my ghost beyond 100Y (was at 120Y). All my shots were missing and I had to hold a good 2 inches right of the can to hit them. Once I figured that out I hit 3 in a row. Then....i looked at my bubble level and noticed bubble was buried into the side!!
There was zero wind today so I was scratching my head, 50, 75, and 100Y had all been bang on. A quick adjustment to the bipod cant lever and held dead center on the next can and bingo!
Also...120Y is quite a ways out for a .22 pellet.

 

[Madhatter]

I can't cant? Hold my beer!