What Weight Do Oops Happen At?

[Pumacarl]

I'm talking trigger pull, not personal issues, or even trigger problems for you, but rather others using your guns. I went to a bbq where I wanted to show people what airguns can do today. I did not take my Paradigm. Every time that I have let someone shoot that gun, even after I tell them how light the trigger is, they fire errantly. I really like the trigger, but I don't trust others with it. Instead I brought my Barra 250z, which I have the trigger at 20oz. I have been thinking about bringing it down to a pound lately, but decided to leave it alone since everything else has been working well. Don't fix what isn't broke kind of thing. I said nothing to any of the shooters about the trigger pull, and nobody fired off one by mistake. I was actually quite surprised. Some of the shooters were 30, some were in their 60's, and everyone was hitting, standing at a tripod, shooting an unkown gun at ranges out to about 200y, without any mistakes made. That's a good day of shooting! So, for now, I think that at least among the people I know, a 20oz trigger is light enough for good accuracy and fun, without having to worry about unintended discharges. No kids were shooting, I only let them do bench and bipod, until I know that they know how to shoot, but it wasn't an issue anyway.

So, I have found that 8oz triggers shouldn't be at most bbq's, but 20oz triggers work out ok. This result is just for me, and my crowd, if you've got ham fisted friends who drink too much at the bbq, I would stick with salsa and chips.

 

[PasadenaMike]

Nobody touches my guns lol .

 

[Billm]

I have one rifle that has a relatively light trigger 8-12oz. I will not let my grandkids fire it, unless I’m standing over them. Not because it’s a light trigger, but because I know that a slam fire is always a possibility. It has slam fired when the side lever was accidentally released before reaching the fully cocked position. Unfortunately my three grandsons would rather play Roblox than shoot most times.

 

[wolfmangreg]

For me personally the cutoff on a two stage trigger is 6 oz. Below that, trigger finger can't tell the difference between touching the trigger & tripping it. Just lacks the sensitivity. 8 oz is preferred, to add a little buffer.
Prefer a couple more ounces of a single stage, since there's no easing up to the "wall".

On the few occasions someone else is going to shoot my rifle, I have them dry fire a few times to get a feel for it, unless I know they're very experienced with lighter triggers.

 

[pan60]

I did not take my Paradigm. Every time that I have let someone shoot that gun, even after I tell them how light the trigger is, they fire errantly. I really like trigger, but I don't trust others with it..

I stopped letting anyone but the wife shoot any of my EVOLs for that same reason.
the last guy I handed it to I told him he say got it it I said light he says yea I got it flips the salty off and I hear splat shlt I never touched the trigger all the while I can see he still has a finger on it.
good thing it was pointed down range.

 

[Danman]

Yeesh this reminds me of last year and my brother in law, lol. I was packing up my S510 and it had one pellet left in the mag. He asked to shoot it, and I chambered the last pellet, flipped the safety on and handed it to him. Well the safety is on the trigger and he is not a gun guy (people are back and forth whether this is a good design but I absolutely love it).
Anyways as I'm explaining to him to be careful while switching safety off he pulls it while flipping it out and off goes the pellet....no idea where that pellet went!
Of my 4 guns the only one I have pulled before I intended too is my TX200....just a beauty I'd guess a pound or so?
Which reminds me, I have a brand new wheeler electronic trigger gauge sitting in a box...from a month ago....I gotta get some numbers lol!!

 

[Solo1]

I think it has a lot to do with the trigger in question. My anschutz 9015 has a fairly long light 1st stage that hits a solid stop but then you just think about moving your finger and the shot is gone best trigger i ever used! Now the ghost when set up perfectly at 6 oz isn’t bad but nothhing like the anschutz but 2 of my grand kids could shoot either

 

[Pumacarl]

Nobody touches my guns lol .

Well that's no fun! If I don't trust them, I don't hang out with them either.

 

[Pumacarl]

For me personally the cutoff on a two stage trigger is 6 oz. Below that, trigger finger can't tell the difference between touching the trigger & tripping it. Just lacks the sensitivity. 8 oz is preferred, to add a little buffer.
Prefer a couple more ounces of a single stage, since there's no easing up to the "wall".

On the few occasions someone else is going to shoot my rifle, I have them dry fire a few times to get a feel for it, unless I know they're very experienced with lighter triggers.

I usually do the dry fire thing too, holding the sidelever, still had a guy do that three times and still shot early with the Paradigm. Some people can't be helped.

 

[AnEnemyAnemone]

he say got it it I said light he says yea I got it

I wonder if he was a handgun or revolver shooter. My only use of arms from about 21 to 46 was practicing with defensive handguns, where a light trigger on a semi-auto is about 6lbs, and on a revolver, about 8-10. I'm used to more in the range of 8 for a pistol and 12lbs for a double-action revolver. A 1.5lb trigger still feels like almost nothing to me.

 

[pan60]

I wonder if he was a handgun or revolver shooter. My only use of arms from about 21 to 46 was practicing with defensive handguns, where a light trigger on a semi-auto is about 6lbs, and on a revolver, about 8-10. I'm used to more in the range of 8 for a pistol and 12lbs for a double-action revolver. A 1.5lb trigger still feels like almost nothing to me.

just never shot anything with that light a pull
he ended up buying a EVOL and loves it

 

[PapaT]

I wonder if he was a handgun or revolver shooter. My only use of arms from about 21 to 46 was practicing with defensive handguns, where a light trigger on a semi-auto is about 6lbs, and on a revolver, about 8-10. I'm used to more in the range of 8 for a pistol and 12lbs for a double-action revolver. A 1.5lb trigger still feels like almost nothing to me.

I have a brother who is a handgun shooter, so when I gave him my Texan to shoot I got a great video of him getting scope sniped.

As for triggers, my lightest is my P-Rifle which is in the neighborhood of 1lb I think. It is light, and even I sometimes fire before I intend. But... kids are always supervised and rested, adults are always supervised.

My dad has a couple of guns with very hair triggers, and he is very selective on who can shoot, or even touch, it.

 

[Pumacarl]

I wonder if he was a handgun or revolver shooter. My only use of arms from about 21 to 46 was practicing with defensive handguns, where a light trigger on a semi-auto is about 6lbs, and on a revolver, about 8-10. I'm used to more in the range of 8 for a pistol and 12lbs for a double-action revolver. A 1.5lb trigger still feels like almost nothing to me.

You're right about hangun triggers! I let a gunsmith adjust my custom .45 trigger below 5lbs and I kept double tapping. Back up it went.