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Mike do you mind sharing your experience with the af guns. I’ve never handled one and I’m interested to hear how to adjust power and what is the spin lock version. Looking for another pcp to loan out to squirrel hunting friends
 
Mike do you mind sharing your experience with the af guns. I’ve never handled one and I’m interested to hear how to adjust power and what is the spin lock version. Looking for another pcp to loan out to squirrel hunting friends
Sure I’d be happy to. So it’s a single shot system with auto resetting safety. Gun comes with lifetime warranty if purchased new. Depending on your power needs there’s a model to suit. low power-Talon ss, high power condor ss, compact and powerful -Talon P plus there are non ss models to choose but are loud. SS is the baffled version. They offer big bore as well but you asked about a loaner for squirrels. All the ones mentioned come .177-.25. The barrels are captive inside the chassis which is really nice you can’t bump poi. They aren’t regulated so you’ll have to find its sweet spot of 8-25 shots depending on the model you choose. Some come with a 480cc bottle and some with a 213 cc. The fill pressure is 3000 psi but you almost never fill to 3000 because for example my talon p loves 2500-2000 psi with 10 good shots. You can certainly fill to 3000 and shoot but the velocity will be low until you hit its sweet spot. The new tanks are spin-lock which means a castle nut is used to secure the tank to the gun. The power is set by a simple power wheel on the side. A lot of folks do different things with them like “o ring mods” or “adjust the top hat” mod. Personally I set it at the factory spec of top hat adjusted until no play in the bolt in it’s locked either left or right position. This was what AF told me on the phone. The barrels are Lothar Walther. The triggers are non adjustable but good for me for hunting. It’s a good 50 yards or less gun at least for me. I’m sure you can push them. They’re capable of a ton of power and the price is still reasonable. The chassis is one solid piece. Most need adjustable scope rings. Hope this helps.
 

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Tons o power .. well .... Can you set it low like 500 or less fps for indoor trap shooting then crank it up to outside long ranges or hunting fps ( 800+)

I tend to find these PCP guns like adjustable regulated ..lol... Just can't adjust much if really at all
 
Tons o power .. well .... Can you set it low like 500 or less fps for indoor trap shooting then crank it up to outside long ranges or hunting fps ( 800+)

I tend to find these PCP guns like adjustable regulated ..lol... Just can't adjust much if really at all
You can probably install this on a talon p or condor but won’t work with a talon ss. Takes a minute and it’s cheap
 

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You can probably install this on a talon p or condor but won’t work with a talon ss. Takes a minute and it’s cheap
Ya, I can't find a conclusion on them used . I guess the small would choke it down enough or. Plug it and drill smaller .

If you could conveniently just go 400-900 fps that would be as well around and gun as it gets. .
 
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That would be great for the Condor but my regulated tank tones it down for normal pellet shooting and a ton of shots. That tank was awesome on the Escape SS as well. The only thing I would use the different top hats on is a 24-inch barrel for using normal weight pellets but I like having more power so I would not use them on my 12in or 18in barrels. The 12- and 18-inch barrels shoot normal and heavy pellets very well the way they are.
 
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The way they explain tuning these is the tank pressure gives you your best power/ velocity which is not going to be at 3000 it may be around 2600 or 2800psi. Then you fine tune it for the best accurate shot string with the power wheel adjusting the hammer spring tension. Or you can set the hammer spring higher for less shots and max power if you want. The hammer spring wheel adjusts the power curve of the shot string. If you want less FPE you use less PSI in the tank. The wheel also fine tunes your groups.
 
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You can take something like a TalonP and turn it down to something like 13FPE or crank it up to 55FPE and still be able to fine tune it for great groups. The AF guns are extremely tune able for a good accurate shot curve. The main limiting factor is the number of shots. You get plenty for hunting which is what the AF guns are made for. You can also fine tune airguns with different size moderators and some are length adjustable with different segments to help out with doing that.
 
The way they explain tuning these is the tank pressure gives you your best power/ velocity which is not going to be at 3000 it may be around 2600 or 2800psi. Then you fine tune it for the best accurate shot string with the power wheel adjusting the hammer spring tension. Or you can set the hammer spring higher for less shots and max power if you want. The hammer spring wheel adjusts the power curve of the shot string. If you want less FPE you use less PSI in the tank. The wheel also fine tunes your groups.
I appreciate this explanation. I just bought a used .25 Talon P with an 18 inch barrel. I will use this as a starting point it has a 600ml condor tank on it, so it will be interesting to see the shot string.
 

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