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Spring/Piston TX2OO: VORTEK PG4: tomorrow's the day

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The saga over the past six years of my TX200, .22 cal is coming full circle. I received a Vortek PG4 Tune kit in the mail today. Yes, I attempted this installation five years ago, I blew it, the top hat was stuck in the compression tube and I didn't realize it. Adding the one from Vortek turned me into Superman when trying to properly compress the spring in order to get that final bolt in. Wow! And everything I had heard led me to believe that getting a TX200 buttoned up was a breeze. Not this time. I called a neighbor over for help. Whew! Now all compressed and ready to go, I pulled on the cocking lever, and that's when the whole thing exploded all over the kitchen. That's all in the past now and we can laugh about it again later. Tomorrow I 'll strip down my TX200, clean everything, install the Vortek kit, including piston seals and breach O rings, and apply proper lubricants, a little Molybdenum grease applied to every metal to metal friction point. My TX has been back and forth with Air Venturi four times in these last five years. If you want something done properly, you gotta do it yourself. Hey . . . at least I know what I'm doing now. If not, I 'll cry, you guys can laugh. Orv.
 
If you want something done properly, you gotta do it yourself. Hey . . . at least I know what I'm doing now. If not, I 'll cry, you guys can laugh. Orv.
Amen brother! The TX is a joy to work on, if anything is giving you major grief, stop, walk away, do some reading on it and get back at it.👍I am messing with a custom trigger blade on mine currently but no matter what I do its a creepy break. I may slap the sloppy (side to side from pin boss wear) original back in and see if its a design flaw with the new blade?
All the best with it! I read some stories about people accidentally leaving that big ol top-hat weight in there as the grease makes it stick....makes for a fun read, but not for the person doing the rebuild! Definitely do some chrono work before and after and please share 🙏
 
The saga over the past six years of my TX200, .22 cal is coming full circle. I received a Vortek PG4 Tune kit in the mail today. Yes, I attempted this installation five years ago, I blew it, the top hat was stuck in the compression tube and I didn't realize it. Adding the one from Vortek turned me into Superman when trying to properly compress the spring in order to get that final bolt in. Wow! And everything I had heard led me to believe that getting a TX200 buttoned up was a breeze. Not this time. I called a neighbor over for help. Whew! Now all compressed and ready to go, I pulled on the cocking lever, and that's when the whole thing exploded all over the kitchen. That's all in the past now and we can laugh about it again later. Tomorrow I 'll strip down my TX200, clean everything, install the Vortek kit, including piston seals and breach O rings, and apply proper lubricants, a little Molybdenum grease applied to every metal to metal friction point. My TX has been back and forth with Air Venturi four times in these last five years. If you want something done properly, you gotta do it yourself. Hey . . . at least I know what I'm doing now. If not, I 'll cry, you guys can laugh. Orv.
Good luck, Orv. I hope it all comes back together easily for you!
 
The saga over the past six years of my TX200, .22 cal is coming full circle. I received a Vortek PG4 Tune kit in the mail today. Yes, I attempted this installation five years ago, I blew it, the top hat was stuck in the compression tube and I didn't realize it. Adding the one from Vortek turned me into Superman when trying to properly compress the spring in order to get that final bolt in. Wow! And everything I had heard led me to believe that getting a TX200 buttoned up was a breeze. Not this time. I called a neighbor over for help. Whew! Now all compressed and ready to go, I pulled on the cocking lever, and that's when the whole thing exploded all over the kitchen. That's all in the past now and we can laugh about it again later. Tomorrow I 'll strip down my TX200, clean everything, install the Vortek kit, including piston seals and breach O rings, and apply proper lubricants, a little Molybdenum grease applied to every metal to metal friction point. My TX has been back and forth with Air Venturi four times in these last five years. If you want something done properly, you gotta do it yourself. Hey . . . at least I know what I'm doing now. If not, I 'll cry, you guys can laugh. Orv.
Orv, you’ve got this 👍.
 
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OK friends, the job was finally completed yesterday. I installed a Vortek PG4 Tune kit in my TX200 rifle. After I stripped it all down, I used isopropyl alcohol to thoroughly clean everything, inside and out. As advertised in the various YouTube videos, strip-down took less than ten minutes. That is except for that tiny metal circlet restraining the pin in the cocking arm. That little bugger took me 30 minutes to get off. Old eyes and arthritic fingers made what should have been a fun project hard, and it was, except for this itsy bitsy little devil part. All the gures on the Tube make it look quick and simple . . . but not for me! OK, I'll stop my tantrum, at least for now. Now, everything gets a thorough cleaning, inside and out with isopropyl alcohol. Still, this part of the job, although stress free, took about an hour. The rifle is now grease and dirt free and it's time to install the Vortek kit. First, I did an R/R on the piston seal. The new one from Vortek is molybdenum impregnated. . . interesting, never heard of this one before. Following the directions, I didn't apply any grease to the newly installed seal. Next, onto the spring and attached spring guide and top hat. The kit comes with a small amount of what looks like a red and tacky grease. Diverting from the directions, I applied black tar grease impregnated with molybdenum. Lots of opinions about this, but I followed my limited experience by applying the black tar. I should also add that Vortek states that no further lubrication need be added to their springs. With the bit of grease I applied, my TX should fire smooth and quiet. I also applied a smidgen (that's a technical term) of the tar with molybdenum around the compression chamber piston bearings. I also applied a smidgen (there’s that word again) of the moly grease at the end spring guide. Ar this point I decided to replace the 2 breachseals. Now, I 'm ready for re-assembly. I'm a bit more than two hours into my project now. Still love'n it. I don't really know of the "professional" method to get this all back together, but here's what I did: first the compression tube went in, followed by the piston with the new fancy seal. This is followed by the mainspring assembly, top hat first. I next went to the cocking arm assembly: I first slid the cocking shoe back into the bottom of the compression tube. Next, I just barely dipped the cocking arm into the moly grease and re-installed into the cocking shoe. Now I replaced the other end of the arm into place with it's pin and circlet, which went back on much easier than it came off. We're almost done here now!. It's time to install the trigger bloc back into the rifle, compress the mainspring, and put the bolt back, holding it all together. I've watched all the videos and all the guys easily compress the mainspring with one arm while they reinstall that final bolt. I'm a wuss guys. I simply couldn't do it!. I ended calling a neighbor over to help compress the mainspring while I carefully (one doesn't want to cross the threads here) re-installed the bolt. Whew, the hard parts are done now. I lubricated all metal to metal parts with more of the black tar moly grease. It's time for a final wipe down with a Balistol impregnated rag to remove any excess grease and get this rifle bact into it's stock. Before I do however, I'm going to place adhesive backed 3/4" wide felt strips along all the places where the wood of the stock and the cold steal of the rifle come together. Will this further reduce any vibration? I hope so. Have I forgotten anything? One last check. Stock is on and my TX200 is ready to shoot, quietly and smoothly, I hope. All told, I've now got about 3 and a half hours on this job, before clean-up. I'm eager to see what my Athlon Chronograph has to say about my tune. Oh oh, looks like rain. Most of today, Sunday its been wet and tomorrow the same. Patience, Orv, patience. Range day is coming , . . Orv
 
Good work. As someone who is not a natural mechanic I appreciate the amount of work this was for you, I hope it pays off at the range. I got a TX200 in a Gary Crane stock from a fellow club member over the winter, and I'm curious about what its innards look like. However, I am not brave enough to open it up, and because it shoots really well I'm going to leave well alone.
 
OK friends, the job was finally completed yesterday. I installed a Vortek PG4 Tune kit in my TX200 rifle. After I stripped it all down, I used isopropyl alcohol to thoroughly clean everything, inside and out. As advertised in the various YouTube videos, strip-down took less than ten minutes. That is except for that tiny metal circlet restraining the pin in the cocking arm. That little bugger took me 30 minutes to get off. Old eyes and arthritic fingers made what should have been a fun project hard. All the gures on the Tube make it look quick and simple . . . but not for me! OK once I'll stop tantrum, at least for now. Now, everything gets a thorough cleaning, inside and out with isopropyl alcohol. Still, this part of the job, although stress free, took about an hour. The rifle is now grease and dirt free. It's time to install the Vortek kit. First, I did an R/R on the piston seal. The new one from Vortek is molybdenum impregnated. . . interesting, never heard of this one before. Following the directions, I didn't apply any grease hereon. Next, onto the spring and attached spring guide and top hat. The kit comes with a small amount of what looks like a red and tacky grease. Diverting from the directions, I applied black tar impregnated with molybdenum. Lots of opinions about this, but I followed my limit5³ed experience by applying the black tar. I should also add that Vortek states that no further lubrication need be added to their springs. With the bit of grease I applied, my TX should fire smooth and quiet. I also applied a smidgen (that's technical term) of the tar with molybdenum around the compression chamber piston bearings. I also applied a smidgen (there’s that word again) of the moly grease at the end of the top hat and spring guide. Ar this point I decided to replace to 2 breachseals. . N. ow, I 'm ready for re-assembly. I'm a bit more than two hours into my project now. Still love'n it. I don't really know of the "professionmethod to get this all back together, but here's what I did: first the compression tube went in, followed by the pistio with the new fancy seal. This is followed by the mainspring assembly, top hat first. I next went to the cocking arm assembly: I first slid the cocking shoe back into the bottom of the compression tube. Next, I just barely dipped the cocking arm into the moly grease and re-installed into the cocking shoe. Now I replaced the other end of the arm into place with it's pin and circlet, which went back on much easier than it came off. We're almost done here now!. It's time to install the trigger bloc back into the rifle, compression the mainspring, and put the bolt back, holding it all together. I've watched all the videos and all the guys easily compress the mainspring with one arm while they reinstall that final bolt. I'm a wuss guys. I simply couldn't do it!. I ended calling a neighbor over to help compress the mainspring while I carefully (one doesn't want to cross the threads heres) re-installed the bolt. Whew, hard parts done now. It's time for a final wipe down with a Balistol impregnated rag to remove any excess grease and get this rifle bact into it's stock. Before I do however, I'm going to place adhesive backed 3/4" felt strips along all the places where the wood of the stock and the cold steal of the rifle come together. Will this further reduce any vibration? I hope so. Have I forgotten anything? One last check. Stock is on and my TX200 is ready to shoot, quietly and smoothly, I hope. All told, I've now got about 3 and a half hours on this job, before clean-up.I'm eager to see what my Athlon Chronograph has to say about my tune. Oh oh, looks like rain. Most of today, Sunday its been wet and tomorrow the same. Patience, Orv, patience. Range day is coming , . . Orv
Good write up Orv! Brought back all the memories from doing mine😅
One thing I did that you clearly did not; was send the miniscule circlip sailing across my 32ft shop!
Step 1: find a suitable screwdriver or pick tool.
Step 2: CUP YOUR OTHER HAND over the direction its going to go flying in when it lets go. I have never inspected my floor so closely before and luckily I found it back!
I have to say im out on whether i would use felt in-between your stock and action? My HW50s trigger gaurd was falling off yesterday lol, but I’ve never yet had a loose stock screw on my TX (1000's of pellets through it).
 
Good write up Orv! Brought back all the memories from doing mine😅
One thing I did that you clearly did not; was send the miniscule circlip sailing across my 32ft shop!
Step 1: find a suitable screwdriver or pick tool.
Step 2: CUP YOUR OTHER HAND over the direction its going to go flying in when it lets go. I have never inspected my floor so closely before and luckily I found it back!
I have to say im out on whether i would use felt in-between your stock and action? My HW50s trigger gaurd was falling off yesterday lol, but I’ve never yet had a loose stock screw on my TX (1000's of pellets through it).
Strange that your stock screws haven't worked loose. Mine seem to require tightening every couple of hundred shots or so. Orv
 
Good work. As someone who is not a natural mechanic I appreciate the amount of work this was for you, I hope it pays off at the range. I got a TX200 in a Gary Crane stock from a fellow club member over the winter, and I'm curious about what its innards look like. However, I am not brave enough to open it up, and because it shoots really well I'm going to leave well alone.
I 'm certainly not a talented or trained mechanic either, just determined, I suppose. Orv.
 
When the dew point is below 70 they call that comfortable where I live.
Here in the high desert, 50% is pretty normal. Ir rained most of yesterday and today. I just checked our humidity, its at 55-60% right now says the friendly weather girl on my phone. She says 40% is our summer level. We used to have a condo in Boca Raton and I could never get dry. It's just what we get used to. Orv.
 
Here in the high desert, 50% is pretty normal. Ir rained most of yesterday and today. I just checked our humidity, its at 55-60% right now says the friendly weather girl on my phone. She says 40% is our summer level. We used to have a condo in Boca Raton and I could never get dry. It's just what we get used to. Orv.
Dew point and relative humidity are different things, but yeah, that is dry. Reminds me of Montana.
 

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