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Same here, i fill them all to full. That way they are ready to go when pesting arises!
Just go to where the gauge setting shows full. At least that's what i do on my rifles. Sometimes the compressor doesn't match what the rifle gauge says but i just turn the dial until the rifle gauge is correct and shows full.It came today
Looked it over, all seems well so far.
Ran a couple oil patches down the bore.
Good thing, it was a bit grubby.
Filled to 3100 PSI on the tank reg.
Pump reg says 3300 PSI
Which one do I trust? I'm thinking the tank reg.
Do you all fill to 3600 on the tank or stop short?
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Cantona256
HAM Ranger
So far it’s all looking pretty good. The thing has really good power. I’ve been hovering around 100fpe and still getting like 30 shots a fill. I’ve got some big fat boat tails that I’m going to be trying this week so that should be interesting.
Cantona256
HAM Ranger
So far I’m really liking it. I only shoot slugs haha. It’s really windy down here and I’m trying to hunt coyotes so yeah.
#1 it’s the most solid feeling airgun I’ve ever held. The buttplate, cheek rest and grip are the only non metal parts on the gun.
#2 it’s annoying to tune because the reg needs a lot of dry firing to settle and the hammer spring is behind the buttplate. I custom made a tool in the shop to help with that. But these are relatively minor complaints. The good thing about the reg is that it doesn’t move once it does settle. I was testing a string of 60gr slugs and at one point the chrono hit 982 5 shots in a row… and based on the point of impact I don’t think it was a chrono error.
#3 it will load, cycle and shoot the biggest longest boat tail slugs around… INTO THE MAG….go on griffin’s website and you see them say “these will not load into mags.” So you will not need to hand load a single thing. I have an order of them coming soon so I’ll report back on that tune. I’ve already hit like 109fpe just playing with some the other day.
Right now I’m shooting 52gr javelins that I got on sale at 935fps. 100fpe and about 30 shots a fill. So 3,000 total FPE per tank to sling at varmints.
Mostly it’s been time and ammo issues that have prevented me from finalizing a tune yet haha. My main slug maker Franco slugs has been out of lead so I ordered a bunch of store bought ones that I don’t love. I have some Sonny’s Slugs and Giffins coming to play with those. My goal is a dual tune. One that will let me shoot big boattails at coyotes but lighter (55-60gr) slugs for other critters. I shoot a lot so being cost effective is a goal.
BTW if you’re shooting slugs in .25 try out some Franco slugs. They’re the best ones I’ve tried in that caliber and his prices are
I am specifically looking at .30 cal & .357 cal and staying subsonic for stealth. Consistency from the slug producer is huge in my opinion but…So far I’m really liking it. I only shoot slugs haha. It’s really windy down here and I’m trying to hunt coyotes so yeah.
#1 it’s the most solid feeling airgun I’ve ever held. The buttplate, cheek rest and grip are the only non metal parts on the gun.
#2 it’s annoying to tune because the reg needs a lot of dry firing to settle and the hammer spring is behind the buttplate. I custom made a tool in the shop to help with that. But these are relatively minor complaints. The good thing about the reg is that it doesn’t move once it does settle. I was testing a string of 60gr slugs and at one point the chrono hit 982 5 shots in a row… and based on the point of impact I don’t think it was a chrono error.
#3 it will load, cycle and shoot the biggest longest boat tail slugs around… INTO THE MAG….go on griffin’s website and you see them say “these will not load into mags.” So you will not need to hand load a single thing. I have an order of them coming soon so I’ll report back on that tune. I’ve already hit like 109fpe just playing with some the other day.
Right now I’m shooting 52gr javelins that I got on sale at 935fps. 100fpe and about 30 shots a fill. So 3,000 total FPE per tank to sling at varmints.
Mostly it’s been time and ammo issues that have prevented me from finalizing a tune yet haha. My main slug maker Franco slugs has been out of lead so I ordered a bunch of store bought ones that I don’t love. I have some Sonny’s Slugs and Giffins coming to play with those. My goal is a dual tune. One that will let me shoot big boattails at coyotes but lighter (55-60gr) slugs for other critters. I shoot a lot so being cost effective is a goal.
BTW if you’re shooting slugs in .25 try out some Franco slugs. They’re the best ones I’ve tried in that caliber and his prices are
I want to hear all of the gory details!
Cantona256
HAM Ranger
Well when it comes to consistency the best slugs I’ve found are Franco slugs in .25 cal. I found him on the AGN classifieds I’ve weighed them on a grain scale. The consistency in weight and length is unreal.
In .30 cal the only Franco’s I’ve tried are 45gr. They shot fine but the gun the gun was pushing them at 970-980fps at 2400psi also not a problem. But I’m trying to shoot coyotes at range so the FPE out past 150y is just lacking. Out to 150 on small and you could hardly go wrong. Better penetration than a hybrid slug with about 80-90% of the expansion. They sound like firecrackers when they hit.
I’ve got a bunch of griffins, Sonny’s slugs and heavier Franco’s coming to go with the Patriot Javelins. So I’ll be trying dish base slugs in 56gr, 60gr, 65gr and 70gr. Boat tails in 59gr, 60gr, 61gr, 65gr, 75gr and 78gr. It will 100% shoot the 78s between 810-830 like a gauntlet. But I like to shoot faster because I like the flatter trajectories. So if I had to guess it’s gonna end up somewhere between 60-65gr doing right around 900fps or more.
Keep in mind I’m not going for a max power tune. My goal is the max power/accuracy I can make and get at least one full mag, so 22 shots. Do I need 22 shots at 115-125fpe? Not really. But dang it feels pretty good dumping a mag of big fat boattails that everyone else has to single load.
Oh yea man that rifle is a beast!
I'm glad the guys at Karma were thinking ahead when they were designing the rifle and mag to shoot the longer heavier slugs!So far I’m really liking it. I only shoot slugs haha. It’s really windy down here and I’m trying to hunt coyotes so yeah.
#1 it’s the most solid feeling airgun I’ve ever held. The buttplate, cheek rest and grip are the only non metal parts on the gun.
#2 it’s annoying to tune because the reg needs a lot of dry firing to settle and the hammer spring is behind the buttplate. I custom made a tool in the shop to help with that. But these are relatively minor complaints. The good thing about the reg is that it doesn’t move once it does settle. I was testing a string of 60gr slugs and at one point the chrono hit 982 5 shots in a row… and based on the point of impact I don’t think it was a chrono error.
#3 it will load, cycle and shoot the biggest longest boat tail slugs around… INTO THE MAG….go on griffin’s website and you see them say “these will not load into mags.” So you will not need to hand load a single thing. I have an order of them coming soon so I’ll report back on that tune. I’ve already hit like 109fpe just playing with some the other day.
Right now I’m shooting 52gr javelins that I got on sale at 935fps. 100fpe and about 30 shots a fill. So 3,000 total FPE per tank to sling at varmints.
Mostly it’s been time and ammo issues that have prevented me from finalizing a tune yet haha. My main slug maker Franco slugs has been out of lead so I ordered a bunch of store bought ones that I don’t love. I have some Sonny’s Slugs and Giffins coming to play with those. My goal is a dual tune. One that will let me shoot big boattails at coyotes but lighter (55-60gr) slugs for other critters. I shoot a lot so being cost effective is a goal.
BTW if you’re shooting slugs in .25 try out some Franco slugs. They’re the best ones I’ve tried in that caliber and his prices are
Cantona256
HAM Ranger
Right!?! The 75gr are almost .600 inches long!
That thing has some massive stopping power!
I seriously believe that we are going to witness some very significant forethought by manufacturers in the area of projectile capabilities. These changing demands by users are going to decide who is serious about being mainstream and dominant in the airgun world. I know that the guys who put forward the most versatile platform will earn my business as long as they remain “reasonably” priced.
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Cantona256
HAM Ranger
Completely agree. Slugs are not just a fad but a way of life for a lot of shooters now. Look at the 250z… people got excited about it because it was an out the box slug shooter for less than $500. The reason I went the same vein with the EQ is because on the spec sheet a really pretty naked gir…… *cough* a saw a gun in .30 cal that just screamed “Put big slugs in me!!” For $950 and I didn’t need to mod it. Just tune.
Cantona256
HAM Ranger
That’s not bad at all! I bet a little bit of micro adjustment on the hammer spring will bring that spread below 10… it’s not a must. Those Zelos are super accurate… but if you’re looking to jump down the rabbit hole sit at 25y and hit some 5 round groups. Make tiny little adjustments to the hammer spring until those groups are even more tiny than your chances of winning the lottery and my self-esteem
That was the worst spread that i recorded but didn’t want to push too much smoke up anyones skirt. Had a 10 and an 11 for 20 shots each just before that group.That’s not bad at all! I bet a little bit of micro adjustment on the hammer spring will bring that spread below 10… it’s not a must. Those Zelos are super accurate… but if you’re looking to jump down the rabbit hole sit at 25y and hit some 5 round groups. Make tiny little adjustments to the hammer spring until those groups are even more tiny than your chances of winning the lottery and my self-esteem
Cantona256
HAM Ranger
That’s awesome! These are the things I love so much about PCP’s. You get to decide how they shoot. I like to obsess over the regulator and a really tiny spread. I always aim for less than 10fps… BUT I only put a hunting zero on the scope
I only care what the yardage to zero so I can plug that into the ballistics app.. beyond that if it’s within a squirrels head I’m happy. With my 250z my record headshot is 110y… proving that it’s better to be lucky than good haha. The EQ I don’t have to worry about the reg. The reg moves like my 600lb life with 2 broken legs. So once it settles on a pressure the extreme spread is stupid tiny… but look at the hammer spring wrong and the increased dwell makes my groups look like a shotgun blast. Just a minor detail thing to deal with. All these guns have their own “personalities” and quirks. The best thing you can do is just shoot, shoot, shoot and shoot some more. The better you know your gun the better your entire experience will be.
Cantona256
HAM Ranger
I think the most underrated aspect is the sound. It’s one of those “if you know, you know” things but when tuning always pay attention to how it sounds. Are you getting a really “pingy” metallic sound? You might have too much Hammer Spring… a I can usually hear hammer bounce before I notice anything else. How does the the report sound? If it’s not that crisp release of air something is out of balance. Even at high pressure it might get a little longer but the sound should be quick and crisp. Those are just little things that you’ll really notice the more you shoot.
When I first got the slug power kit for my barra I tried tuning for 40gr apolo slugs not having a clue what I was going. I had it shooting “good enough” and I even drilled a jack in the back of the head at 40y. Everyone kept saying “it’s fine dude quit messing with it.” Haha but it just sounded wrong and I couldn’t get over it… that got me way deep into the rabbit hole and I went from shooting 40gr at 810fps and thinking 40y was pretty good… to shooting 31&32gr at 980fps for more power than before… and I recently retired the barra from shooting squirrels unless it’s MORE than 100y.. the thing is ridiculous. I put a 75y zero on it and it just got too easy haha.
The moral of this story isn’t “I’m great” and “listen to me.”
… it’s just to trust your instincts and don’t settle for “good enough.” It doesn’t matter what other people think if the gun isn’t shooting exactly how you want then feel free to fuss over it haha… I know my GF has expressed some jealousy haha. It’s not my fault I bought two guns and she got the best puppy ever within a span of like 4 months Create an account or login to comment
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