Single Stroke Pneumatics always interested me but I never saw one suitable for hunting. This being defined as, at least 12fpe and something that can be carried afield, and cocked by a normal human being. Is there, or has there been, one of these mass produced and sold to the public? I know about the FWB 10-meter gun, but I haven't seen anything made as well with more power. Just curious, and surprised nobody ever marketed one just for bragging rights.
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What is the Most Powerful SSP Made?
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Hateful McNasty
Grand HAMster
Hmmm... Good one. Ya, all I can recall is pistol or rifle for 10m work at sub 600 fps (350-500+/-)
I can't really think of a power house ssp
I can't really think of a power house ssp
Hateful McNasty
Grand HAMster
A pa blog on it
The single stroke pneumatic | Blog | Pyramyd AIR
by Tom Gaylord Writing as B.B. Pelletier This report covers: What is a single stroke pneumatic? The pump head is critical Quick fix How much power? More power Low-cost plinkers Great single stroke Summary This report was requested by reader Chris USA, and I expect it will be helpful for a number...
www.pyramydair.com
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- #4
Bob Sterne was the only individual that I ever read about trying to come up with a better gun and even offered his design for free, to Crosman, and they refused it. I read that a while ago, don't quote me on that. I haven't read much since. If all these manufacturer's are looking for their next way to make a buck, maybe now that technology and production have advanced, they can make one of these happen.
Cassiopeia
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JimT66
Master HAMster
While it is a "single stroke", the gas or spring ram is a lot different than the single stroke pneumatic system. Don't get me wrong, to me, a single stroke is a single stroke, but then, I am a heretic about such things. Lol. I cause problems constantly, like calling our much beloved PSP rifles jumped up Red ryders. Hahahahahs.
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- #7
Yeah, no, completely different animal. SSP has no recoil or vibration sources when firing, just like a MPP, just less pumping. Gas rams just make for a different type of spring. Now a Giss System gun using gas rams would be cool, but bigger heavier and way more complex than what I was thinking. SSP require a level of precision that only Olympic shooters would pay for up until recently. People seem to have no problem, lately, spending big money on these things. That is why I check, every now and then, if someone has started making one.
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- #8
This blog from 9 years ago had current members here and at AGN involved too, Doc Holiday and Vana2. It seems we have all been looking for a while. I don't remember ever hearing about, or seeing a Titan Mohawk either. Mustn't have worked out for one reason or another.A pa blog on it
The single stroke pneumatic | Blog | Pyramyd AIR
by Tom Gaylord Writing as B.B. Pelletier This report covers: What is a single stroke pneumatic? The pump head is critical Quick fix How much power? More power Low-cost plinkers Great single stroke Summary This report was requested by reader Chris USA, and I expect it will be helpful for a number...www.pyramydair.com
Cassiopeia
New member
I am aware of the differences I thought the gist was towards a useful hunting tool that could remain cocked for a very long time.
Hateful McNasty
Grand HAMster
Well I don't see much change in them years if any it's regression. Guns offered them are long gone and one or 2 remaining .
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- #11
No, the gist is that I like the dead action of a pneumatic but I don't want to pump too much. It's just a pipe dream at this point.
Doc Holiday
HAM Sniper
Yes I am still involved on that blog and here of course. I so wish they would have a 600 fps ssp rifle. Many told me to buy a Weihrauch HW30 and just pretend. Probably the closest I could get except for maybe a Winchester 77X on 4 pumps or maybe the new Crosman Vapor on a low number of pumps.
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- #13
I will forever, keep an eye out, on this. I am, have been, and will always remain baffled that more effort wasn't put into this. It literally is what both camps love, a dead shot cycle, and no air charging equipment needed. Grab a tin of pellets, and go shoot, and use any scope you want.
Farmplinker2
HAM Wizard
I suspect it would be like the .25/.30 springers. To get the velocity we need, it will be so difficult to cock a lot of people won't buy them.
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- #15
I don't know about that, clever people came up with a way to make charging the MPP easy, they could employ better mechanics for the SSP too. If they ever want to even try.
Doc Holiday
HAM Sniper
Thinking about that, why can’t they apply the same cocking method as the Seneca Dragonfly to make a higher power SSP.
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- #17
Exactly, that was what I was implying, I don't know if they patented that or not. For all the people looking to make a buck in this industry you would think that someone had all these same thoughts already? Why didn't they take Stern up on his offer? Just plain stupid. I think iirc, his only stipulation was that he would have been given credit/recognition for the design. You can lead a horse to water ......
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