Is This The End Of SIG Airguns?

SIG SAUER has just launched a range of Red Training Guns. So is this the end of SIG Airguns?

These non-functional, inert ASP RED GUN products are stated by the company to “replicate the size, design, and handling of the real firearms for the most accurate training”.

They “accurately replicate the size, design, and feel of real SIG SAUER pistols”. For example, including removable magazines for practice reloading to simulate any scenario”.

For example, the M17 Red Training Gun With 2 Magazines shown above has a MSRP of $119.99.

In addition, they are “ideal for all training levels – law enforcement, security professionals, martial artists, and responsible firearm owners. They are also holster-compatible. SIG says that they fit centerfire holsters for realistic weapon draw, retention, and disarming practice.

All of this is great and they sound like great products. But, hey, wasn’t training the main value proposition for the vast majority of SIG airguns?

Now I ask this question because the most recent SIG airgun introduction – that I am aware of – was the P229 Blowback in June 2024. (It also sells for $119.99, coincidentally).

That’s well over a year’s wait for a new airgun product from a brand that used to introduce new airguns with considerable regularity.

It reminds us, also, of the sadly-short manufacturing life of the SIG SAUER ASP20 Air Rifle that debuted with great fanfare in 2018.

The ASP20 was widely regarded as an outstanding design and showcased the results of a huge development effort. However it was the company’s only “non replica” airgun and sadly didn’t last long in the market.

So does this introduction of RED TRAINING GUNS mean the end of SIG Airguns? Hopefully not.

I’ve emailed my contact at SIG and will be delighted to publish any response the company provides…


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[Scriv]

@Scriv Above I’ve highlighted and shortened Mr. Archer’s article with points he made in correlation to how this inert training model may affect other SIG Airguns. I can’t speak for others, but I for don’t think it’s a valuable trade off. That’s my perspective as an airgunner. They of course are making business decisions as a firearm manufacturer. I don’t consider that ripping SIG. As an airgunner a piece of plastic for the same price point as a blowback replica is a rip off IMO.

I read that too. Perhaps the image is what I find confusing. The Red Gun is imprinted with the ASP logo. Training equipment costs are outrageous, and they are but one company operating in the market.

 

[Ezana4CE]

I read that too. Perhaps the image is what I find confusing. The Red Gun is imprinted with the ASP logo. Training equipment costs are outrageous, and they are but one company operating in the market.

@Scriv I personally have little stake or knowledge of the state of firearm training materials and markets. I can only comment on what’s been presented in the article here regarding a very real possibility of SIG discontinuing two airgun models and selling a high priced plastic replica in place of an air pistol. Thanks for the added input. It provides a little more context looking at this from an industry-wide firearms-training perspective.

 

[Scriv]

@Scriv I personally have little stake or knowledge of the state of firearm training materials and markets. I can only comment on what’s been presented in the article here regarding a very real possibility of SIG discontinuing two airgun models and selling a high priced plastic replica in place of an air pistol. Thanks for the added input. It provides a little more context looking at this from an industry-wide firearms-training perspective.

That's sort of the issue I'm getting at. I don't think that Sig "sells" these guns. They may have licensed ASP to produce, and sell them. They may have just been mentioned in some industry information release. ASP is Armament Systems & Procedures which may be confused for some acronym used in SIGs airgun line.

 

[Ezana4CE]

That's sort of the issue I'm getting at. I don't think that Sig "sells" these guns. They may have licensed ASP to produce, and sell them. They may have just been mentioned in some industry information release. ASP is Armament Systems & Procedures which may be confused for some acronym used in SIGs airgun line.

I was unaware of that as well.

 

[Scriv]

I was unaware of that as well.

One thing is for sure.... nothing is for sure. The reason I think that is because ASP sells Red guns that are glocks, Smith & Wesson etc

 

[Ezana4CE]

One thing is for sure.... nothing is for sure. The reason I think that is because ASP sells Red guns that are glocks, Smith & Wesson etc

The fact that there’s a company called ASP and a SIG airgun model the ASP20 was confusing to me.

 

[Ezana4CE]

I hope SIG doesn’t completely withdraw from airguns. As I understand it, there was a Northeast Airguns Challenge competition at the SIG Sauer Academy (I believe) that was well promoted (last year I think). I haven’t seen anything about it this year, then I read an article title like this one.

 

[Scriv]

The fact that there’s a company called ASP and a SIG airgun model the ASP20 was confusing to me.

You may not be the only one.

 

[Linehauler73]

Proof people will literally buy anything. I hope they keep trademarking Airguns but who knows the p320 may do the whole company in. Lol

 

[Hoppalong Doc]

A few years ago, make that 5 or 6 years, I purchased a new Sig Saur P320 pellet pistol. I especially wanted one as it was just like the US Army P17. My son's are both Army officers, so this was a way to get up on my handgun training. Boy what a disappointment. This Sig pelletgun came with a 30 round "bicycle chain" pellet feeding system. I'm telling you that EVERY time that chain system was fed around the corner it jammed! Every damn time. I tried various pellets, all the same. . . Jammed. Eventually, Sig saw fit to send me a couple of replacement 20 round chain system magazines. Yep. . . they all jammed too. No matter what I tried, they all jammed. Anyone want to purchase a beautifully formed P320 pellet pistol? Mine hasn't been fired for more than 5 years now. I'm all in on Sig Saur pellet pistols with the "bicycle chain" magazines. Orv.