Others Does your Airgun need warm up shots?

[Danman]

Good day fellow Ham-mers! I own and shoot 3 Airguns fairly regularly (the 4th is a work in progress) My .177 TX is a fussy girl when first taken out or switching between pellets in a session. Like clockwork almost, the first 2/3 shots will be miserable. So bad in fact that I'll immediately think oh-oh my scope must be off?! (A plain and reliable 4x12x40 airmax which is a perfect scope for this gun imo) My pcps do not really seem to have this issue, I even let the S510 sit in my gun bag over 2/3 months unfired over winter, pulled it out and grouped some shots. First shots were right up their with the rest of em. When printing groups (and with what gun) do you need to shoot a few "testers" and how many shots usually till the gun/you are on target!? Shot all this today in pic. Very first shots taken are the 2 low ones on bottom dot of the 4.51. Top dots were my official groups. After shooting all the less accurate pellets I popped in the 4.51 again to "reset" the barrel. First 3 were the ones marked relead shots(all went high), then the next 2 were again!

 

[Sydney Monk]

Good day fellow Ham-mers! I own and shoot 3 Airguns fairly regularly (the 4th is a work in progress) My .177 TX is a fussy girl when first taken out or switching between pellets in a session. Like clockwork almost, the first 2/3 shots will be miserable. So bad in fact that I'll immediately think oh-oh my scope must be off?! (A plain and reliable 4x12x40 airmax which is a perfect scope for this gun imo) My pcps do not really seem to have this issue, I even let the S510 sit in my gun bag over 2/3 months unfired over winter, pulled it out and grouped some shots. First shots were right up their with the rest of em. When printing groups (and with what gun) do you need to shoot a few "testers" and how many shots usually till the gun/you are on target!? Shot all this today in pic. Very first shots taken are the 2 low ones on bottom dot of the 4.51. Top dots were my official groups. After shooting all the less accurate pellets I popped in the 4.51 again to "reset" the barrel. First 3 were the ones marked relead shots(all went high), then the next 2 were again!

I don’t think my guns need a warmup shot as much as I do.

 

[Pumacarl]

My FWB-124D's do. They need a good quick 10 shots to settle down, 20 if changing to a different pellet. When PCP was starting to be really popular I would watch guys switching ammo and think, "WTH, he needs to season the barrel first," but with most PCP you don't. First shot cold bore hits with a PCP are a requirement for me and just another reason I prefer PCP now. There was a lot of talk and arguments about this subject on the British websites. It was pretty funny actually.

 

[Danman]

My FWB-124D's do. They need a good quick 10 shots to settle down, 20 if changing to a different pellet. When PCP was starting to be really popular I would watch guys switching ammo and think, "WTH, he needs to season the barrel first," but with most PCP you don't. First shot cold bore hits with a PCP are a requirement for me and just another reason I prefer PCP now. There was a lot of talk and arguments about this subject on the British websites. It was pretty funny actually.

Yeah, minus reg creep issues on some pcps it amazes me how consistent my 2 are. That wins for pesting hands down. I have pested with my TX a few times and after benching it and it's "hot" look out, dumps feather and fur alike! If it's a quick pesting shot and the guns have all been sitting I reach for the S510.

 

[Pumacarl]

Really it's no problem if you admit to yourself that it is actually a problem and just shoot off a few shots before you go out hunting to shoot something. It was incredible how many people didn't even want to discuss it. I had one problem spot that I couldn't shoot right before and I just shot off some rounds in the dirt before I left to go there. Worked fine. I think the accuracy holds for a couple of hours depending on the outside temperature.

 

[BeemanHW100]

Good day fellow Ham-mers! I own and shoot 3 Airguns fairly regularly (the 4th is a work in progress) My .177 TX is a fussy girl when first taken out or switching between pellets in a session. Like clockwork almost, the first 2/3 shots will be miserable. So bad in fact that I'll immediately think oh-oh my scope must be off?! (A plain and reliable 4x12x40 airmax which is a perfect scope for this gun imo) My pcps do not really seem to have this issue, I even let the S510 sit in my gun bag over 2/3 months unfired over winter, pulled it out and grouped some shots. First shots were right up their with the rest of em. When printing groups (and with what gun) do you need to shoot a few "testers" and how many shots usually till the gun/you are on target!? Shot all this today in pic. Very first shots taken are the 2 low ones on bottom dot of the 4.51. Top dots were my official groups. After shooting all the less accurate pellets I popped in the 4.51 again to "reset" the barrel. First 3 were the ones marked relead shots(all went high), then the next 2 were again!

30 yard fly kill made me laugh

 

[Danman]

30 yard fly kill made me laugh

Wrong place at the wrong time for him

 

[jps2486]

Cold shots with any gun, whether air or PB, can be unpredictable. When I go to a match, the first 5 shots are used for sighters or I shoot them in the dirt. The inner workings of the gun need to be loosened up.

 

[Danman]

Cold shots with any gun, whether air or PB, can be unpredictable. When I go to a match, the first 5 shots are used for sighters or I shoot them in the dirt. The inner workings of the gun need to be loosened up.

Agreed!.... The TXs first 2 shots were both similar poi and low. If you look closely at the plywood (bottom dot/warm up group on the AA 4.51) you will see the power was down as well as penetration is less?! Gun had sat in its case for a few weeks untouched prior to the pellet showdown. Shot all my groups and ended with the crappy JSB Straton group. Well I wanted to "reset" the barrel with the 4.51 AA and the first 3 (labeled as relead) shots went high!? Then the next 2 went right in the bullseye, so I knew I/it was back in business. I can't explain it, but it sure is fun I used my benchrests, with my new bubble level so what you see is what I got.

 

[Arzrover]

I had a TX 200 Mk1 that needed exactly 50 shots to get back to zero after sitting. I had a B&L 4200 on it that is still around and always tracks perfect. Never figured out why and ultimately traded it off. It was extraordinarily accurate once it settled.
My BSA Superstar and Walther LGU are always on zero on the first shot.

Bob

 

[Luis Leon]

I would love to say with certainty no, my PCPs do not… BUT, can confidently says that in many instances I apparently need a few warm up shots. Examples: canted gun, poor trigger discipline, older eyes, a crap ton of human foibles… But then again it could be my guns…

 

[Danman]

I had a TX 200 Mk1 that needed exactly 50 shots to get back to zero after sitting. I had a B&L 4200 on it that is still around and always tracks perfect. Never figured out why and ultimately traded it off. It was extraordinarily accurate once it settled.
My BSA Superstar and Walther LGU are always on zero on the first shot.

Bob

Yikes! My TX will fling the first 1,2, or 3 but then she settles down nicely, was yours a .177 also? That would definitely be an issue for me

 

[Arzrover]

Yes, 177...
I only used it for ft till I got the LGU, so warming it up (and me) wasn't a bad thing. It never gave me a reason to doubt it once we were warmed up. Btw, the temp never seemed to be a factor...

 

[MMCM13]

I have a AA S400 classic that is on every time, with same pellets at least. Once I found a favorite, pull it out any time, it’s on…

 

[Doc Holiday]

At my age it’s definitely me that needs the warm up. That said my guns do not

 

[Firewalker]

I dump a shot (no pellet) into the bin in the shop before I DRT a critter.

Insurance...

 

[Grunt64]

I don’t think my guns need a warmup shot as much as I do.

Good day fellow Ham-mers! I own and shoot 3 Airguns fairly regularly (the 4th is a work in progress) My .177 TX is a fussy girl when first taken out or switching between pellets in a session. Like clockwork almost, the first 2/3 shots will be miserable. So bad in fact that I'll immediately think oh-oh my scope must be off?! (A plain and reliable 4x12x40 airmax which is a perfect scope for this gun imo) My pcps do not really seem to have this issue, I even let the S510 sit in my gun bag over 2/3 months unfired over winter, pulled it out and grouped some shots. First shots were right up their with the rest of em. When printing groups (and with what gun) do you need to shoot a few "testers" and how many shots usually till the gun/you are on target!? Shot all this today in pic. Very first shots taken are the 2 low ones on bottom dot of the 4.51. Top dots were my official groups. After shooting all the less accurate pellets I popped in the 4.51 again to "reset" the barrel. First 3 were the ones marked relead shots(all went high), then the next 2 were again!

No need for warm up shots.

 

[CTAirgunner]

My FWB-124D's do. They need a good quick 10 shots to settle down, 20 if changing to a different pellet. When PCP was starting to be really popular I would watch guys switching ammo and think, "WTH, he needs to season the barrel first," but with most PCP you don't. First shot cold bore hits with a PCP are a requirement for me and just another reason I prefer PCP now. There was a lot of talk and arguments about this subject on the British websites. It was pretty funny actually.

Nothing has a first shot cold bore hit like the Paradigm!

 

[Pumacarl]

Nothing has a first shot cold bore hit like the Paradigm!

This is the truth!

 

[Grunt64]

This is the truth!

For 3k it should, but what happends. After 300 yards?