250Z Barra 350z!

[Pumacarl]

Just saw that SGR posted a short from SHOT on the new 350z.

While it doesn't have the same character, it looks to be way more capable. Cross your fingers for better barrels.

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[BBGunn]

Not my 'cup of tea' with regard to style, but it's always good to have choices.

 

[Pumacarl]

Not my 'cup of tea' with regard to style, but it's always good to have choices.

Me either, but it does look like it is ready to play. Did you notice the caliber? .30, It will appeal to many.

 

[BSJ]

Only 350z info on their site.

Barra Airguns | 350z FAQ

www.barraairguns.com

Are they expecting problems?

 

[Billm]

Just saw that SGR posted a short from SHOT on the new 350z.

While it doesn't have the same character, it looks to be way more capable. Cross your fingers for better barrels.

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Well, I probably want one.

 

[Bladefin]

Well, I probably want one.

Best to buy the 1st batch release, before the Chinese start cutting corners.
It's a shame that it'll take 8 to 9 months to figure out what the issues are on the 2nd batch.

 

[BSJ]

Eh? They've had a year to get the 250 barrels right. Looks like they're using the same on the 350. I doubt there's anything different.

 

[BBGunn]

I was hoping Barra would come with a 'hunter' stock for the 250Z for 2026. Wood, traditional with zero degree angled pistol grip and a comb that was either adjustable, or raised to allow a cheek-weld looking through a low mounted optic.

I know, Diamond Gunstocks has a good stock. I'm sure the cost of that stock is well worth the workmanship..., but it's a little more than I want to spend for a $440 rifle.

 

[Pumacarl]

Eh? They've had a year to get the 250 barrels right. Looks like they're using the same on the 350. I doubt there's anything different.

That's a .30 in the video. That's a first for them, so there is no telling how that's going to do until someone takes a bullet for the team and buys one. And that won't be me, I have a pretty good .30 as it is.

 

[Pumacarl]

I was hoping Barra would come with a 'hunter' stock for the 250Z for 2026. Wood, traditional with zero degree angled pistol grip and a comb that was either adjustable,

That would have been an excellent idea, especially since they already produce a fairly nice wood stock for the M30C. While I really like how mine turned out, if they had offered the gun with the wood stock that SPA already used, I would have bought that instead.

 

[Pumacarl]

Best to buy the 1st batch release, before the Chinese start cutting corners.
It's a shame that it'll take 8 to 9 months to figure out what the issues are on the 2nd batch.

Well, that is just a little jaded, if anybody should be really upset it's @Billm and he still wants one! lol

 

[PestPlasteringPlinker]

Just saw that SGR posted a short from SHOT on the new 350z.

While it doesn't have the same character, it looks to be way more capable. Cross your fingers for better barrels.

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I guess they do listen. Ugly suit, but great attempt!

 

[FL22]

Well, that is just a little jaded, if anybody should be really upset it's @Billm and he still wants one! lol

Maybe he just needs to move quickly, finger hovering over the buy now button the moment it appears .

 

[Billm]

Well, first of all, I’m not taking any airgun company (or non-airgun company) at their word. Looking beyond the marketing hype, it looks like a nice step up. Like most things, actions really do speak louder than words. But, I’m pretty outspoken and I don’t usually filter my comments. I know I really should lol. But, I try to share both my good and bad experiences. I’m pretty sure that my 250z was out of the early batches, I purchased it in 2024. I personally don’t think when you purchased your 250z has any impact on your odds of getting a good or bad barrel. It shot pellets really well. I could not get it too shoot slugs as well as @Pumacarl and @Cantona256 were doing with theirs. I shot a half dozen different slugs and shot hundreds of them. I saw that @Northeastbeast (I think) had posted that he had received a choked barrel. I slugged my barrel and it was not concentric throughout the bore. Barra told me that it was one of several barrels that had been incorrectly machined. They had me ship it back for a tested replacement. Then they wouldn’t send me a replacement rifle and refunded my purchase. Their management called me at home and discussed the whole scenario at length. They asked me about my likes and dislikes and what improvements that I would like to see. After agreeing to not disclose any details, they told me their whole product philosophy with the 250z, including some of the products under development. Keep in mind this was months ago and product development takes months if not years. All, I can say is that this new rifle makes me believe that they were being truthful with me. Folding stocks, .30 caliber and other promising products were all discussed. When I told them what I really wanted in a 250z, they suggested that I wait and see before buying another one. That’s what I’m doing. Do I need another 250z, no, but it was a lot of fun to shoot and tinker with. I’m not connected to Barra at all, just a paying customer that let them know I was unhappy. I did receive a backpack and a few decals from them a few weeks later as a goodwill gesture.

 

[Pumacarl]

Well, first of all, I’m not taking any airgun company (or non-airgun company) at their word. Looking beyond the marketing hype, it looks like a nice step up. Like most things, actions really do speak louder than words. But, I’m pretty outspoken and I don’t usually filter my comments. I know I really should lol. But, I try to share both my good and bad experiences. I’m pretty sure that my 250z was out of the early batches, I purchased it in 2024. I personally don’t think when you purchased your 250z has any impact on your odds of getting a good or bad barrel. It shot pellets really well. I could not get it too shoot slugs as well as @Pumacarl and @Cantona256 were doing with theirs. I shot a half dozen different slugs and shot hundreds of them. I saw that @Northeastbeast (I think) had posted that he had received a choked barrel. I slugged my barrel and it was not concentric throughout the bore. Barra told me that it was one of several barrels that had been incorrectly machined. They had me ship it back for a tested replacement. Then they wouldn’t send me a replacement rifle and refunded my purchase. Their management called me at home and discussed the whole scenario at length. They asked me about my likes and dislikes and what improvements that I would like to see. After agreeing to not disclose any details, they told me their whole product philosophy with the 250z, including some of the products under development. Keep in mind this was months ago and product development takes months if not years. All, I can say is that this new rifle makes me believe that they were being truthful with me. Folding stocks, .30 caliber and other promising products were all discussed. When I told them what I really wanted in a 250z, they suggested that I wait and see before buying another one. That’s what I’m doing. Do I need another 250z, no, but it was a lot of fun to shoot and tinker with. I’m not connected to Barra at all, just a paying customer that let them know I was unhappy. I did receive a backpack and a few decals from them a few weeks later as a goodwill gesture.

Well said. I'd be concerned with barrel quality going forward too, having read everyones posts over the past year. Trust but verify.

I think the one point that I would like people to take away from my experience is that I didn't actually "get" my gun to shoot accurately with slugs, I just happened to finally find some slugs that shot accurately out of it. I would like to take credit and say that if you do x y and z, yours will shoot as well too. But, I know better. Some barrels, short of handmade customs, just do shoot better than others. Some have said just shoot pellets, but I have had experience with a pellet gun that could only shoot one specific pellet good, and all others lousy too...it is not just a slug thing, or a pellet to the rescue deal. That would be nice. Sometimes you get lucky right up front and other times you have to make your own luck by constant testing. Stamina looks like luck sometimes.

 

[Cantona256]

Well, first of all, I’m not taking any airgun company (or non-airgun company) at their word. Looking beyond the marketing hype, it looks like a nice step up. Like most things, actions really do speak louder than words. But, I’m pretty outspoken and I don’t usually filter my comments. I know I really should lol. But, I try to share both my good and bad experiences. I’m pretty sure that my 250z was out of the early batches, I purchased it in 2024. I personally don’t think when you purchased your 250z has any impact on your odds of getting a good or bad barrel. It shot pellets really well. I could not get it too shoot slugs as well as @Pumacarl and @Cantona256 were doing with theirs. I shot a half dozen different slugs and shot hundreds of them. I saw that @Northeastbeast (I think) had posted that he had received a choked barrel. I slugged my barrel and it was not concentric throughout the bore. Barra told me that it was one of several barrels that had been incorrectly machined. They had me ship it back for a tested replacement. Then they wouldn’t send me a replacement rifle and refunded my purchase. Their management called me at home and discussed the whole scenario at length. They asked me about my likes and dislikes and what improvements that I would like to see. After agreeing to not disclose any details, they told me their whole product philosophy with the 250z, including some of the products under development. Keep in mind this was months ago and product development takes months if not years. All, I can say is that this new rifle makes me believe that they were being truthful with me. Folding stocks, .30 caliber and other promising products were all discussed. When I told them what I really wanted in a 250z, they suggested that I wait and see before buying another one. That’s what I’m doing. Do I need another 250z, no, but it was a lot of fun to shoot and tinker with. I’m not connected to Barra at all, just a paying customer that let them know I was unhappy. I did receive a backpack and a few decals from them a few weeks later as a goodwill gesture.

You magnificent devil haha I applaud your ability to keep quiet about this for months!

 

[Cantona256]

Well said. I'd be concerned with barrel quality going forward too, having read everyones posts over the past year. Trust but verify.

I think the one point that I would like people to take away from my experience is that I didn't actually "get" my gun to shoot accurately with slugs, I just happened to finally find some slugs that shot accurately out of it. I would like to take credit and say that if you do x y and z, yours will shoot as well too. But, I know better. Some barrels, short of handmade customs, just do shoot better than others. Some have said just shoot pellets, but I have had experience with a pellet gun that could only shoot one specific pellet good, and all others lousy too...it is not just a slug thing, or a pellet to the rescue deal. That would be nice. Sometimes you get lucky right up front and other times you have to make your own luck by constant testing. Stamina looks like luck sometimes.

I disagree with you… I really think it’s just because their .22 cal barrels were trash.. but the results I and others have achieved in .25cal have absolutely been shown to be repeatable for most… but for my part nothing I did with my barra was possible without your input and reporting from your own tuning experiences… so you did get it there even if your own Z was down to a little bit of luck

 

[Cantona256]

Don’t worry lads I’ll be more than happy to bite the bullet and slug tune the 9mm as soon as it comes out .

I loved my 250z and it’s the gun that truly opened up the pcp world for me. I learned how to tune on that gun. Learned how to modify and developed a love of hunting that I never had before. That gun is the reason I spend my weekends cruising backroads looking for coyotes. It’s not an exaggeration to say that it changed my life. Being outside was already a lifelong pursuit but now every chance I can get out to shoot, tune or hunt I’m all over it.

Sadly I had to sell my Z to fund my EQ project. So I won’t be getting a .30 cal since I already have a custom built .30 that I’m obsessed with haha. But I hate to admit I’m turning into one of those annoying dudes that’s obsessed with long range and BC’s NOTE: I was always annoying this is just a new aspect. There’s levels to this

I won’t bore you with the details but seeing the kind of power I’m able to get at 300y(81fpe!!) I’m curious to see what can be done in .357… am I ever gonna shoot a coyote at 300y? Lol at this rate I wonder if I’m ever gonna shoot a coyote at any yards haha… Mostly I’m just blessed to live in a sportsman’s paradise and regularly find myself in places where I can “plink” out to 300y+.. I actually I attempted to shoot 308y yesterday and the 3 slugs grouped!… so yeah I’m gonna 100% gonna get the 9mm, slap one those fancy extend-o bipods on that handguard and then start popping out 90gr slugs doing around 950fps for 180fpe

Rumor mill says:

August release date
$800 price tag (unclear if that’s for all calibers or just the .30 and .35)
.30cal is 100fpe+ but nothing concrete yet
.35cal is supposed to be up to 200fpe.

Fingers crossed y’all. Can’t wait to continue annoying y’all with my jabbering.

 

[Cantona256]

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Okay so Barra is coming out with a whole new line…

For the guys who wanted a wood stock the 270z looks like exactly what you want.

300z and 350z are gonna be completely different.. the 350z has a CF bottle.

 

[Billm]

I just see more options, Not that I need more options,