What'cha doing air gun related today?

[MarkLev]

Have been having some regulator creep issues on my Avenge X. So after a dinner date with my wife, I tore it all down and replaced the two o-rings and greased them up good and reinstalled everything. Re aired it up and did some dry firing to settle it and we’ll see how it does overnight. It was creeping up a large amount before at least 200-300psi if it was pressurized to 4350. The o-rings were quite flat and hard so I’m hoping with some new ones it’ll solve the issue.
Tomorrow I’m going to head up to my fathers and retune at his range and get some long distance shooting in, out to at least 100yds.
Had it shooting pretty well with the 21.9 AEA and the 22.07 JTS before rebuilding the reg.
Have a great rest of your weekend everyone!

 

[Fred Bear]

Reading the specs on the Notos Gen 2 at Pyramid.

Just when I get my Notos upgraded. They come out with a Gen 2. Sure hope they upgraded the mag.

 

[Murfdurf82]

I almost don't want to see the Notos 2 specs after the extra dough I've spent on the Original Money Pit. Speaking of that's all I did today, shoot the Notos. 24 shots w the flip up iron sights. 20 yards out. The gap in the rear sight is wider than stock sights by a good margin, so I'll use that excuse why my shots split side to side more . Had to weed the garden/supports today and boy did that take up my time.

I really can't wait for the buster to arrive so I have something more the size of my crosman 1322 for back yard lawn chair plinking.

 

[BBGunn]

This morning I fired Altaros 49.5s through my Uragan 2 700 .25. I had tried them prior with the rifle's tune for H&N 44gr and was not overly impressed. The last couple days I dialed the velocity down (895fps) to where many have reported outstanding results with the 49.5s. I have to admit, I'm shocked how well the U2 groups the Altaros at the corrected velocity!

Some place on this board I recently posted how much I didn't like my Uragan2. I commented that it was my most expensive air rifle, and it was the least accurate. That was true prior to today! Finding the correct slug and velocity for my U2s barrel has me re-thinking my prior thoughts about the Uragan 2 700!

I'm really feeling good today as I have felt for the longest time that the money I spent for the U2 was NOT money well spent!

 

[RobbieGio]

On the hunt for a .22 slug rifle capable of shooting up to those 40 grain Air Marksman FRAGs. Going through the usual sites on this search.

 

[Chief55]

The last couple days I dialed the velocity down (895fps) to where many have reported outstanding results with the 49.5s. I have to admit, I'm shocked how well the U2 groups the Altaros at the corrected velocity!

With all the research I have done on slugs and slug guns I was very suppressed to learn that some gun and slug combinations work best from 700-800 rather than 900-1000. Slugs are a strange thing in airguns.

 

[FL22]

On the hunt for a .22 slug rifle capable of shooting up to those 40 grain Air Marksman FRAGs. Going through the usual sites on this search.

What have you come up with so far?

90+FPE I would guess for starters.

 

[RobbieGio]

What have you come up with so far?

90+FPE I would guess for starters.

Yes, 90 plus would be great. Able to turn down when needed. Seems the only rifles that I found appealing and capable are the AirForce Condor Slug barrel (limited time run and no longer available), Air Venturi Avenger XL (out of stock for the foreseeable future), and the FX $$$ rifles.

 

[Chief55]

More like 105fpe. They might shoot better out of a choked Condor barrel, for real. The Airforce .22 barrels have a .221 groove diameter so with a .002, 1-inch choke at the end of the barrel, it should shoot .218 and .219, 32-40gr slugs okay. I shot 40 grain Altaro slugs from the one I used to have. It did pretty well at 30 yards. I don't remember trying it farther because I sold the gun. I might let my Condor .22 slug barrel go in the future, just the barrel, I'm not sure yet, because I have a great source for 38gr 22LR slugs I like to shoot in it. I have been using the TJ .300 barrel in the gun, and I am not really into .22 that much, I like .25s and .30s more. They are easier to load, and I love the power of them but the 38-40 grain .22s hit with authority as well. I really like the way that TJ barrel shoots 50gr JSB pellets and my home made 55 grain semi wadcutter slugs. The TJ .300 barrel would be awesome for racoons and coyotes and brain shooting young hogs. Yes, a Condor has no trouble shooting 55+ grain slugs. Without modifications. The .22 Zelos can shoot slugs well but maybe not that heavy. Part of the problem with Airforce .22s is that. I think it is called the lead in, basically the throat of the barrel is too tight, they are made for pellets, so you end up trying to mash the big slugs into the barrel too much. They need to be opened up some to improved loading. Mr Hollowpoint once said, with Airforce guns, engage the rifling with slugs but do not try to force them in, it doesn't matter if half the slug is sticking out of the barrel it will shoot just fine. That man knows slugs. I have read that some of the best slug barrels have a very slight choke to them. Yep, I have lost my mind.

 

[FL22]

More like 105fpe

That’s a short list in .22

@RobbieGio what are you planning on shooting with them?

 

[PapaT]

Up before the family this morning, and out with the Blue Streak. Got it sighted in with its new (temporary) optic at 25 yards, still 2 pumps. No paper, just my steel targets and looks like I landed on perfect zero. Have a blessed day all.

 

[Chief55]

The Oring that seals the air tank on the Zelos was leaking so I went to ACE hardware, and they matched it for me $.25 so I got 8 of them. Put some silicon oil on it and put the tank back on. So far so good, has to be the right size or all the pressure would have dumbed instantly. Got my Maple magazine for it today and it fits perfectly; I got it because my originals are super tight. I like the Maple single shot mag as well; it is really tight to install but works well. It is needed for Hornets, Poly Mags, and longer slugs. It will fit a 55-grain solid flat nosed slug.

 

[RobbieGio]

That’s a short list in .22

@RobbieGio what are you planning on shooting with them?

I would use it for general purpose shooting with more power than my current Sniper XR. So, pests, coyotes and javelina, plinking / targets at further distances. Hopefully, join some competitions in the future.

 

[FL22]

I would use it for general purpose shooting with more power than my current Sniper XR. So, pests, coyotes and javelina, plinking / targets at further distances. Hopefully, join some competitions in the future.

Seems to me like it’s going to be in something FX I’ve been looking at this myself not necessarily for the FRAGS but FPE for $ spent (on a high quality high power .22).

And right now unless someone can point out something different FX looks the best to me.

 

[Solo1]

If i understand you guy right 40 gr airmarksman 22 would be good also the 33 gr zan boat tail hollow point supposed to be .17 at 930 and over .2 if over 1000 fps

 

[old navy]

just hit some impact plates-didnt get started early so it got hot quick and I havent set up my fan on the bench yet
enjoy the day

 

[RobbieGio]

More like 105fpe. They might shoot better out of a choked Condor barrel, for real. The Airforce .22 barrels have a .221 groove diameter so with a .002, 1-inch choke at the end of the barrel, it should shoot .218 and .219, 32-40gr slugs okay. I shot 40 grain Altaro slugs from the one I used to have. It did pretty well at 30 yards. I don't remember trying it farther because I sold the gun. I might let my Condor .22 slug barrel go in the future, just the barrel, I'm not sure yet, because I have a great source for 38gr 22LR slugs I like to shoot in it. I have been using the TJ .300 barrel in the gun, and I am not really into .22 that much, I like .25s and .30s more. They are easier to load, and I love the power of them but the 38-40 grain .22s hit with authority as well. I really like the way that TJ barrel shoots 50gr JSB pellets and my home made 55 grain semi wadcutter slugs. The TJ .300 barrel would be awesome for racoons and coyotes and brain shooting young hogs. Yes, a Condor has no trouble shooting 55+ grain slugs. Without modifications. The .22 Zelos can shoot slugs well but maybe not that heavy. Part of the problem with Airforce .22s is that. I think it is called the lead in, basically the throat of the barrel is too tight, they are made for pellets, so you end up trying to mash the big slugs into the barrel too much. They need to be opened up some to improved loading. Mr Hollowpoint once said, with Airforce guns, engage the rifling with slugs but do not try to force them in, it doesn't matter if half the slug is sticking out of the barrel it will shoot just fine. That man knows slugs. I have read that some of the best slug barrels have a very slight choke to them. Yep, I have lost my mind.

Thanks for the info. This is what also lead me towards the Condor with the slug barrel. It seemed, as I was reading the reviews and experiences of users, even those who love AirForce guns, there were caveats, exemptions or “need to do” things with the other non slug versions. I was familiar with them having no regulators. No problem. Then comes the it should shoot okay, pretty well at 30 yards, larger spreads at 50, made for pellets barrels. Gives me pause. The most concerning was in a thread where the owner was thinking of cutting the choked portion of the barrel off and starting over. Yikes! Don’t want to circumcise my rifle. So, is the juice worth the squeeze? I am all for testing, but have not seen great results other than with that slug barrel Condor.

 

[Fishing 43]

Cleaned up and replaced the fill valve on my neighbors 22 marauder. It was gifted to him in non working condition . He has a starling problem and now he has a means to solve it.

 

[Chief55]

I have not seen any great results with the slug barrel; nobody writes about it, which tells me nobody is impressed with it. What videos there are don't show any groups for a reason. My own tests are not complete, I just got 5 more slugs to try but I have not found anything, yet I would shoot out of it at 100 yards after over $200 in slugs. The difference in the slug barrel and the non-slug barrel is the non-slug barrel shoots pellets well if you get the top hat kit to slow them down, I do not have the top hat kit. I like Airforce guns for the power, light weight and simplicity but I would never recommend any Airforce Utility gun for competition shooting; they are hunting guns ment for pellets. If you are shooting shorter ranges like 30 yards they will shoot slugs fine. The .257 or .308 Texan could compete some but not the smaller calibers without a custom barrel like my TJ.

You would be better off looking at something like a FX DRS or a BRK for long range or competition shooting. FX and BRK are known for being able to shoot a wide range of both pellets and slugs from the same barrel really well and at long range. If you want more power, you are better off moving up from a .22 to a .25 caliber. These barrels have twist rates designed to stabilize certain ammo, usually pellets. Yes, you can usually find one or two slug lengths that will work with enough testing, but you will normally get better results with better accuracy for power increases by moving up in caliber rather than by moving up in bullet weight. The best accuracy out to 75 yards will always be with a certain pellet unless the gun has been made specifically to shoot slugs. The Condor slug gun was not made to shoot slugs, all they did was cut off the choke that made it shoot pellets okay if you slow them down and glued on an adapter. That's not good enough. I have a hard head; it has taken time to convince me of that but now I believe it, many have come before me and they know. That is why I shoot different caliber guns for different proposes. It depends on how much power I want to get the job done and I really don't shoot far enough to have any need for slugs I just think they are cool. Big bores usually have a good twist rate for slugs but not always with .300 calibers.

I should add that I am still a learning beginner myself and making lots of mistakes. You can learn from the Ham testing and from Mountain Sport Airguns

 

[RobbieGio]

I have not seen any great results with the slug barrel; nobody writes about it, which tells me nobody is impressed with it. What videos there are don't show any groups for a reason. My own tests are not complete, I just got 5 more slugs to try but I have not found anything, yet I would shoot out of it at 100 yards after over $200 in slugs. The difference in the slug barrel and the non-slug barrel is the non-slug barrel shoots pellets well if you get the top hat kit to slow them down, I do not have the top hat kit. I like Airforce guns for the power, light weight and simplicity but I would never recommend any Airforce Utility gun for competition shooting; they are hunting guns ment for pellets. If you are shooting shorter ranges like 30 yards they will shoot slugs fine. The .257 or .308 Texan could compete some but not the smaller calibers without a custom barrel like my TJ.

You would be better off looking at something like a FX DRS or a BRK for long range or competition shooting. FX and BRK are known for being able to shoot a wide range of both pellets and slugs from the same barrel really well and at long range. If you want more power, you are better off moving up from a .22 to a .25 caliber. These barrels have twist rates designed to stabilize certain ammo, usually pellets. Yes, you can usually find one or two slug lengths that will work with enough testing, but you will normally get better results with better accuracy for power increases by moving up in caliber rather than by moving up in bullet weight. The best accuracy out to 75 yards will always be with a certain pellet unless the gun has been made specifically to shoot slugs. The Condor slug gun was not made to shoot slugs, all they did was cut off the choke that made it shoot pellets okay if you slow them down and glued on an adapter. That's not good enough. I have a hard head; it has taken time to convince me of that but now I believe it, many have come before me and they know. That is why I shoot different caliber guns for different proposes. It depends on how much power I want to get the job done and I really don't shoot far enough to have any need for slugs I just think they are cool. Big bores usually have a good twist rate for slugs but not always with .300 calibers.

I should add that I am still a learning beginner myself and making lots of mistakes. You can learn from the Ham testing and from Mountain Sport Airguns

That is knowledge and experience that I am on here for. Thank you. YT channel LakeForkGuy video was the first I saw of AirForce guns years ago. Saw the power and really piqued my interest in PCP. Still does. Just with a lil bit more precision further out. Was hoping for something comparable and under that $2k range, but looks like there may be no other choices. I sort of knew that in the back of my mind, but hope springs eternal.