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There are advantages and dis-advantages to everything. Some things are not possible without specialized equipment. NV is good and range finders have their place. I don't use these, but I wouldn't opine if others should use. Out of the box standalone don't work well at midnight. :unsure:

Life was simpler when we all threw rocks. Then we complicated the process with compressed air and high-pressure pumps, special ammo and barrels. Say what? I guess that is what makes people happy. Just as long as it is a choice. :unsure: Let me hear the new ideas, as long as I have a choice to...

What is a M-Light?

Excellent Airsoft video! I really enjoyed the brief history of target use. I'm going to look that book up. I have said often that air guns are the way to get the kids back involved with the shooting sports. I am presently dealing with my club and their regulations that do not allow steel...

"Really, we need to take the political correctness out of the issue, and then we will have true training." I believe this is an excellent way to start this thread. For far too long we have not had our voices heard correctly. We allowed some to commander the language of our lives, our sports...

"Defensive Target Discussion" is what I'm going to label the new thread. I'm up to the challenge!!! I'll explain the label change on the new thread! :cool:

I would like to see this addressed in a new post because it could cover many issues beyond paper targets. All targets should be available at gun ranges. 3D targets are available for archery. We should address in our lives how some opinions carry more weight than others. I'm looking forward to...

That's what you call a real re-active target! :LOL:

Sorry I haven't got back to you earlier. Thanks for the feedback about the pellet data. Cost factors drive most of my decisions when I buy for the air gun range. In the past I have had 2 purchases of 6000 Daisy wadcutters pellets and the last purchase for 9000 pellets. I try to keep the cost...

As long as you're happy with the results, that is all that matters. But it is rocket science. Until we solve manufacturing variation issues not caused by man, it will be pretty hard to make improvements. If everything we manufactured was perfect, we would not need to performance test any...

Barrel turning is early in the whole process. There are a number of steps after the machining process. Metal finishing, fitting and testing probably would not be done by a machinist. A fully trained gun smith could accomplish this task for a limited quantity of barrels. These posts give a good...

Not all general practitioner doctors are brain surgeons. There are many disciplines of machining. I have been a carbide die maker for the screw industry with skills capable of very close tolerances, but I may not have the skills to machine a crankshaft on an ocean liner engine. I have been...

Thanks for the links to previous posts. There is a lot of history to review on this subject. I knew I wasn't the only one out there thinking about this stuff. Very humbling experience. ;)

Can anyone direct me to any old posts about the need for rifled barrel use with pellets. Would pellets perform well from a smooth bore barrel? Several videos have pointed out that pellets are similar to badminton shuttlecocks in flite that fly straight (as in no twist rate spiral). Extreme...

Sorry about not responding sooner. Your data is excellent. I like the term "Zero Hold". I entered your data and it looks like you are shooting a 14.3 pellet? Using the "zero hold" data with my design sight, I calculate that the trajectory would be +.25"@10 yards, zero@20yards and -.23"@24 yards...

It looks like everyone seems to have the same problem of shooting precisely at close range. The targeting systems in use today are not designed to accomplish precision accuracy at close range. Traditional theory of targeting cannot address the zone before the first zero position. I have...

It sounds like you are talking from experience. I may never have the opportunity to use this piece of equipment, but I like that you have explained the concepts that may be of value to other members. It seems to be hard for members to think "Out of the Box" about new ideas. Nice job! ;)

First off, this company is pushing the envelope for "improvement in process" that will improve quality and they will set new standards specifically for the air gun industry. Many established companies would have a hard time accomplishing this feat. This looks to be a good start for this new...

Your comments indicate that 10 Meters is not the standard first or second zero. What distance is it tuned to? Please explain how your equipment shot very well. I use my scopes for magnification only, so I don't know much about their other options. Do your turrets adjust down to 10M or are you...

Why do you shoot? Are you trying to develop the easiest method of accuracy with repeatability or are you looking for the challenge of mastering more difficult methods and equipment? The thread posted with the title, "Is the Debate Over?" mentioned several times about the different challenges of...