Others Umarex Fusion 2 jam

[Kawabob]

I am waiting on Pyramid air to answer this but patience is not a strong suit of mine. I bought my 1st air rifle a Umarex Fusion 2. I have a jam on shot #2. I am looking to discover why / how it jammed so I can avoid a next time. I put both Co2 cartridges in with lube on the tips. Put the end cap on it and twisted the piercing pin until it released Co2. I did not load them in the same way. How do I know that both cartridges were pierced? Could this have been a part of why the second shot was nothing? I cycled the bolt and thinking back on it the action was very smooth as if it was not pushing in a pellet. I squeezed the trigger and nothing. I cycled the bolt but it would not seat another pellet. The other odd thing is I fired one round and I am assuming there is one pellet stuck but when I look at the magazine I see only 4 pellets. I am seeing in other responses to this issue is that I basically have to destroy the magazine to get the jam out. Appreciate you suggestions and time.

 

[PasadenaMike]

Hope someone helps you I don’t know if anyone has one of those here if they do hopefully they can answer your question. If you’re within the return window I’d RMA that in a second

 

[Roamin Greco 1]

Welcome! Sounds like this was resolved, but where did you post about the fix?

 

[hameditor]

I am waiting on Pyramid air to answer this but patience is not a strong suit of mine. I bought my 1st air rifle a Umarex Fusion 2. I have a jam on shot #2. I am looking to discover why / how it jammed so I can avoid a next time. I put both Co2 cartridges in with lube on the tips. Put the end cap on it and twisted the piercing pin until it released Co2. I did not load them in the same way. How do I know that both cartridges were pierced? Could this have been a part of why the second shot was nothing? I cycled the bolt and thinking back on it the action was very smooth as if it was not pushing in a pellet. I squeezed the trigger and nothing. I cycled the bolt but it would not seat another pellet. The other odd thing is I fired one round and I am assuming there is one pellet stuck but when I look at the magazine I see only 4 pellets. I am seeing in other responses to this issue is that I basically have to destroy the magazine to get the jam out. Appreciate you suggestions and time.

@Kawabob OK, let me try a few thoughts here...

1. It sounds to me as if you loaded the CO2 cartridges correctly. Your description matches perfectly with my understanding of how these should be loaded.

2. There's just about no chance that incorrect CO2 cartridge loading would cause a jam. Even if only one CO2 cartridge was pierced, it will supply pressure for at least 25 shots. So that's not the cause of your issue.

3. So, I would say - without being able to look at the gun - that the problem is most likely to be operator error in loading the magazine. This could be due to a pellet being loaded backwards, or the magazine rotor being rotated in the wrong direction. Trust me, I can get it wrong sometimes, too, especially with a new gun!

4. The other possibility is that - after firing the first shot, the bolt handle was not pulled right back to it's full rearward position. Partial operation of the bolt can sometimes lead to a pellet being loaded from the magazine, but the gun not being cocked. If repeated, this can lead to multiple pellets being fed into the barrel, with no shot being fired. (That would match with you only seeing four pellets in them magazine).

5. At any event, you have a jam in the magazine/breech area, as you know. But what to do about it?

6. As a first step, I would de-gas the gun. The CO2 cap has a de-gassing capability and this works well, so far as I can remember from testing the Fusion 2. Umarex Fusion 2 Air Rifle Test Review - Hard Air Magazine That would make the gun 100% safe.

7. After de-gassing, I would open the bolt (if it's not already) and try to hold it fully open using a rubber band, somehow. Next I would take a cleaning rod (brass, not steel so as not to damage the rifling) and push it down from the muzzle end. Do this carefully, as you'll need to thread it through the silencer baffles before it engages in the barrel. Then push the rod gently against the jammed pellets. What we're trying to do here is to push any ONE partially-fed pellet back into the magazine. We're not trying to push all the pellets back into the mag. (If all the pellets were stuck in the barrel, you would be able to remove the magazine, so there has to be a partial-feed here).

8. Try the above, then wriggle the magazine to see if there's any play there. Try again several times, without pushing the rod too hard. With luck, you MAY be able to push the partially-fed pellet back into the mag and thus enable the magazine to be wriggled free.

9. Another factor here is the type of pellets you are using. If you have loaded soft lead pellets - like RWS Hobbys, for example - then continued wriggling of the magazine MAY shear the pellet and enable the magazine to be removed. But if they are hard - like most Crosman pellets - this is a much more difficult proposition.

10. If you can remove the magazine then you are home and dry! Any remaining pellets jammed in the barrel can be pushed out into the magazine well using the cleaning rod.

I'm very sorry to hear of the issues with your new airgun and hope that some of the above suggestions will help.

Please let us know how you make out. Good luck!

 

[Chief 10-Beers]

Not to be a "Debbie Downer", but the Umarex Magazines were the main reason I shied away from the Brand. Even the Notos had many complaints, and most went to aftermarket Mags. JMO

 

[Kawabob]

@Kawabob OK, let me try a few thoughts here...

1. It sounds to me as if you loaded the CO2 cartridges correctly. Your description matches perfectly with my understanding of how these should be loaded.

2. There's just about no chance that incorrect CO2 cartridge loading would cause a jam. Even if only one CO2 cartridge was pierced, it will supply pressure for at least 25 shots. So that's not the cause of your issue.

3. So, I would say - without being able to look at the gun - that the problem is most likely to be operator error in loading the magazine. This could be due to a pellet being loaded backwards, or the magazine rotor being rotated in the wrong direction. Trust me, I can get it wrong sometimes, too, especially with a new gun!

4. The other possibility is that - after firing the first shot, the bolt handle was not pulled right back to it's full rearward position. Partial operation of the bolt can sometimes lead to a pellet being loaded from the magazine, but the gun not being cocked. If repeated, this can lead to multiple pellets being fed into the barrel, with no shot being fired. (That would match with you only seeing four pellets in them magazine).

5. At any event, you have a jam in the magazine/breech area, as you know. But what to do about it?

6. As a first step, I would de-gas the gun. The CO2 cap has a de-gassing capability and this works well, so far as I can remember from testing the Fusion 2. Umarex Fusion 2 Air Rifle Test Review - Hard Air Magazine That would make the gun 100% safe.

7. After de-gassing, I would open the bolt (if it's not already) and try to hold it fully open using a rubber band, somehow. Next I would take a cleaning rod (brass, not steel so as not to damage the rifling) and push it down from the muzzle end. Do this carefully, as you'll need to thread it through the silencer baffles before it engages in the barrel. Then push the rod gently against the jammed pellets. What we're trying to do here is to push any ONE partially-fed pellet back into the magazine. We're not trying to push all the pellets back into the mag. (If all the pellets were stuck in the barrel, you would be able to remove the magazine, so there has to be a partial-feed here).

8. Try the above, then wriggle the magazine to see if there's any play there. Try again several times, without pushing the rod too hard. With luck, you MAY be able to push the partially-fed pellet back into the mag and thus enable the magazine to be wriggled free.

9. Another factor here is the type of pellets you are using. If you have loaded soft lead pellets - like RWS Hobbys, for example - then continued wriggling of the magazine MAY shear the pellet and enable the magazine to be removed. But if they are hard - like most Crosman pellets - this is a much more difficult proposition.

10. If you can remove the magazine then you are home and dry! Any remaining pellets jammed in the barrel can be pushed out into the magazine well using the cleaning rod.

I'm very sorry to hear of the issues with your new airgun and hope that some of the above suggestions will help.

Please let us know how you make out. Good luck!

Thank you for the detailed info, I will let you know how I make out.

 

[Kawabob]

Again thank you for your detailed advice. I think #4 is what happend. I was able to geta cleaning rod down the barrel and tap out 1 pellet so I could wiggle the magazine out. A couple of pellets were in there. Once clearned and cleaned I loaded a fresh magazine and proceeded to get aquainted with my rifle, for an old man with cataracts and glasses I was able to get less than 1" 5 shot groups. It is quiet, I am hoping that once it gets broken in I will become more consistent. I read your review before I purchased and started with the pellets that worked best, H&N. I think it's a pretty good back yard plinker and a good 1st rifle. KB

 

[hameditor]

Again thank you for your detailed advice. I think #4 is what happend. I was able to geta cleaning rod down the barrel and tap out 1 pellet so I could wiggle the magazine out. A couple of pellets were in there. Once clearned and cleaned I loaded a fresh magazine and proceeded to get aquainted with my rifle, for an old man with cataracts and glasses I was able to get less than 1" 5 shot groups. It is quiet, I am hoping that once it gets broken in I will become more consistent. I read your review before I purchased and started with the pellets that worked best, H&N. I think it's a pretty good back yard plinker and a good 1st rifle. KB

@Kawabob Thanks for the update. I'm glad that you were able to fix the problem. Well done! Enjoy shooting your new air rifle